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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2021, 06:48:41 pm »

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• 1736 London Paddington to Plymouth does not run
• 1804 London Paddignton to Penzance calls additionally at Castle Cary

So Castle Cary has an additional stop in the 1804 in lieu of the cancelled train... but Pewsey and Westbury do not.

Never mind, there's the 1J93 Paddington-Frome... except that's also cancelled.
The best offer seems to be the 1C93 Paddington-Plymouth, which, surprisingly, stops at Hungerford and Bedwyn in addition to Pewsey and Westbury. (not a special for this week only).
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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2021, 07:47:44 pm »

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• 0457 Plymouth to Gunnislake is replaced with a bus
• 0542 Gunnislake to Plymouth is replaced with a bus
The route will be interesting, I wonder if it's an amphibious bus?!

Btw for those interested, the Cornwall Railway Society website is reporting that the 06.20 Plymouth - Penzance and 09.25 Penzance - Edinburgh has been a Cross Country HST (High Speed Train) all week instead of the usual Voyager.

Gunnislake is always 2 small buses. 1 for gunnislake and Calstock. The other for Bere Alston and Bere Ferrers. Oakleys coaches were covering the evening runs recently with  small Optare Solos
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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2021, 10:03:13 pm »

Monday 16 August
• 0457 Plymouth to Gunnislake is replaced with a bus
• 0542 Gunnislake to Plymouth is replaced with a bus
The route will be interesting, I wonder if it's an amphibious bus?!

Gunnislake is always 2 small buses. 1 for gunnislake and Calstock. The other for Bere Alston and Bere Ferrers. Oakleys coaches were covering the evening runs recently with  small Optare Solos
I'm wondering what happens with the Plymouth suburban stations, that the train would have called at?
The timings must be interesting (and presumably fairly longer than by train), Bere Ferrers to Plymouth is fairly circuitous in order to get over the River Tavy, likewise Calstock to Plymouth is fairly circuitous in order to get over the Tamar. I imagine you would need to bear that in mind especially if connecting into other services.

BTW (by the way) re Boardmasters, the 10.32 Newquay to Paddington and 12.31 Newquay to Paddington were both 9 car IETs (Intercity Express Train) on Monday and apparently very well filled! I don't know about the 08.37, 14.19 or 16.20 NQY (Newquay (Station)) - PADs» (Paddington (London) - next trains).
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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2021, 10:53:05 pm »

Monday 16 August
• 0457 Plymouth to Gunnislake is replaced with a bus
• 0542 Gunnislake to Plymouth is replaced with a bus
The route will be interesting, I wonder if it's an amphibious bus?!

Gunnislake is always 2 small buses. 1 for gunnislake and Calstock. The other for Bere Alston and Bere Ferrers. Oakleys coaches were covering the evening runs recently with  small Optare Solos
I'm wondering what happens with the Plymouth suburban stations, that the train would have called at?
The timings must be interesting (and presumably fairly longer than by train), Bere Ferrers to Plymouth is fairly circuitous in order to get over the River Tavy, likewise Calstock to Plymouth is fairly circuitous in order to get over the Tamar. I imagine you would need to bear that in mind especially if connecting into other services.

BTW (by the way) re Boardmasters, the 10.32 Newquay to Paddington and 12.31 Newquay to Paddington were both 9 car IETs (Intercity Express Train) on Monday and apparently very well filled! I don't know about the 08.37, 14.19 or 16.20 NQY (Newquay (Station)) - PADs» (Paddington (London) - next trains).

The buses don’t serve the suburban stations. Not sure if an alternative arrangement is made
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2021, 02:45:42 am »

The buses don’t serve the suburban stations. Not sure if an alternative arrangement is made

Passenger numbers at Dockyard, Keyham and St Budeaux are very low and I doubt there are (m)any for those early trains / buses.  The outbound  train is express to St Budeaux Victoria Road anyway.  Inbound, the train has a historic use for people working in Plymouth including at the dockyard, but passenger number figures would suggest this is now little used for that purpose - OR there's a quirk in the data, for example with everyone using Plymouth tickets and leaving / joining short.

Devonport figures are higher; the big flow there is to and from schools ... so not August and not this early in the day.

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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2021, 07:37:16 pm »

The buses don’t serve the suburban stations. Not sure if an alternative arrangement is made

Passenger numbers at Dockyard, Keyham and St Budeaux are very low and I doubt there are (m)any for those early trains / buses.  The outbound  train is express to St Budeaux Victoria Road anyway.  Inbound, the train has a historic use for people working in Plymouth including at the dockyard, but passenger number figures would suggest this is now little used for that purpose - OR there's a quirk in the data, for example with everyone using Plymouth tickets and leaving / joining short.

Devonport figures are higher; the big flow there is to and from schools ... so not August and not this early in the day.



I accept that footfall for the Plymouth suburban stations may not be that high, but surely if you cancel a train and say it's being replaced by a bus/buses, but don't tell people that the bus doesn't serve all the stations that the train would have, then surely that's a bit misleading, and could cause significant inconvenience?!
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2021, 08:52:55 pm »

I see that Boardmasters is causing a massive spike in Covid numbers in Newquay! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-58257323
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2021, 09:11:17 pm »

I see that Boardmasters is causing a massive spike in Covid numbers in Newquay! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-58257323

Sadly, not at all surprising.
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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2021, 09:39:36 pm »

I think it’s across the board* with Devon and Cornwall having some of the highest covid rates in the UK (United Kingdom). Can’t think why  Roll Eyes

*No pun intended  Wink
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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2021, 11:44:01 pm »

I think it’s across the board* with Devon and Cornwall having some of the highest covid rates in the UK (United Kingdom). Can’t think why  Roll Eyes

*No pun intended  Wink
Grockles and emmets? More people in confined area or at a festival and bound to happen. Even if double vaccinated one can still carry as much contagion of the Delta variant as anyone else
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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2021, 02:28:34 am »

I see that Boardmasters is causing a massive spike in Covid numbers in Newquay! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-58257323

Sadly, not at all surprising.

We should all be thankful for the benevolence of GWR (Great Western Railway) in limiting access to this event, by means of closing stations  and bustitution and in refusing to convey surfboards, thereby limiting the risks to innocent people.
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2021, 06:50:43 am »

I see that Boardmasters is causing a massive spike in Covid numbers in Newquay! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-58257323

Sadly, not at all surprising.

We should all be thankful for the benevolence of GWR (Great Western Railway) in limiting access to this event, by means of closing stations  and bustitution and in refusing to convey surfboards, thereby limiting the risks to innocent people.

"Innocent" people?
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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2021, 07:31:28 am »

I see that Boardmasters is causing a massive spike in Covid numbers in Newquay! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-58257323
Part of the picture but not all.

Boardmasters was an outdoor festival, with PCR checks to enter, etc.
Newquay town is also over-run with visitors, going into indoor venues with no PCR checks.  Just a request to wear masks, and admissions open to all.
Nightclubs, pubs, shops, etc.
Falmouth & St Ives are also on a high since before the G7 (in case anyone is going to go that far back).
Too many people in too small a space.

Whilst the infection rates are very high, hospital admissions are way down fortunately.
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« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2021, 04:31:35 pm »


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-58318695
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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2021, 04:42:13 pm »

The cases around us in West Dorset are now higher than they were in the January peak.
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