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« Reply #390 on: December 05, 2021, 01:58:22 pm »

Put my daughter back on the SWR» (South Western Railway - about) Waterloo train (159) from Warminster at 1051 this morning.
Daughter says first 2 coaches were quite busy, rear was quiet. One has to wonder how many more passengers would have been on board had it come through from Bristol rather than from Yeovil. 13 people boarded at Warminster - most with luggage. 

Interesting to note that the following 2 GWR (Great Western Railway) services to Southampton (nowt to PMH today !) were cancelled "due to a planning error" !! Anyone from BoA» (Bradford-on-Avon - next trains)/Trowbridge heading for Salisbury and a Waterloo "connection" would have had a looooong wait !!! The first service to go to Salisbury from those two towns today departed at nearly 1300 !!!! 

"Cracking service, Gromit"................
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« Reply #391 on: December 05, 2021, 02:50:14 pm »

Looong article on the Guardian web site today.

Doesn't mention Bristol to Waterloo as such.

Does contain a cracking response from the DfT» (Department for Transport - about), an explicit deployment of the long-predicted 'Okehampton misdirection'.

"A DfT spokesperson said it was “demonstrably false” to suggest that the government was delivering cuts to the railway, given the current levels of investment, the £96bn rail plan and the restoration of lines such as Okehampton."

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/dec/05/back-bad-old-days-swingeing-rail-cuts-alarm-bells-ringing
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« Reply #392 on: December 05, 2021, 03:22:59 pm »



Interesting to note that the following 2 GWR (Great Western Railway) services to Southampton (nowt to PMH today !) were cancelled "due to a planning error" !! Anyone from BoA» (Bradford-on-Avon - next trains)/Trowbridge heading for Salisbury and a Waterloo "connection" would have had a looooong wait !!! The first service to go to Salisbury from those two towns today departed at nearly 1300 !!!! 

"Cracking service, Gromit"................

That's a long wait and well into 'Put on taxis' territory... interesting that even the Yeovil service wasn't carrying fresh air around. I'm now trying to recall how the post-December 11th Sunday service shapes up for Warminster.

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Off topic but it was a Sunday too - me a few years ago, waiting on a freezing Leeds station for the first Crosscountry train of the day to Bristol.

5 minutes before departure: it was announced as cancelled, and around 40 people directed to the following train in an hour's time.

5 minutes before *that* one was due, an announcement went out: it was also cancelled, would the assembled passengers please wait for the next train in... another hour's time.

What was happening: overnight engineering works had over-run. Crosscountry services were running direct between York and Doncaster, missing out Leeds, Wakefield. Correct advice would have been simply take the next train to Doncaster and catch the Crosscountry service there, but did anyone think of telling the travelling public? Nooooh... I found this out only after abandoning plan 'a' and, after deciding that if it was going to take a day to travel down south I may as well be on a train, stepped onto a Manchester service, then on a Cardiff train and finally a change at Newport and a direct train home.
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« Reply #393 on: December 07, 2021, 10:03:14 pm »

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The tiny Hertfordshire villages set to get direct trains from London for the first time in over 30 years
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« Reply #394 on: December 09, 2021, 04:36:32 pm »

Up to London and, now, back on a direct train from Waterloo today. The Bristol portion is two but could really do with being three for the numbers out of Waterloo. Destination Southend, which put me in mind of how useful 'London Terminals' is. For Waterloo arrivals, it also takes you to London Bridge, Victoria or in my case  Cannon Street, which is a short walk to Fenchurch Street for the onward journey, so, in my book, that's 'Paddington, 1, 'London Terminals, 3".

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« Reply #395 on: December 09, 2021, 06:17:51 pm »

Estimate 50 to 60 staying on across Salisbury. What with, also, passengers leaving, others joining and the people redistributing themselves between portions, it's never easy to count.

One cycle, and a very cheerful family of five in a bay of four, including a wee one, so +1 pushchair. And a guy, ambulant, but with mobility issues.
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« Reply #396 on: December 09, 2021, 06:59:47 pm »

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Although linking two important commuter hubs, the line has a very rural feel, thanks to its tiny stations, 45 minute interval timetable and community rail partnership (helped by user group ABFLY). Locals call it simply "the Abbey Flyer".
Only from the perspective of the "London bubble" could you say that a 45 minute service interval has a rural feel.
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« Reply #397 on: December 10, 2021, 09:10:30 am »

The SWR» (South Western Railway - about) web site finally gains an announcement that they're withdrawing from Bristol - has it really appeared on the last day of that service?

 https://www.southwesternrailway.com/plan-my-journey/timetables?s=09
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« Reply #398 on: December 10, 2021, 09:34:28 am »

The SWR» (South Western Railway - about) web site finally gains an announcement that they're withdrawing from Bristol - has it really appeared on the last day of that service?

 https://www.southwesternrailway.com/plan-my-journey/timetables?s=09

Yes, standard practice to leave timetable publication to the day before as (in good times) you don't want people turning up for trains not yet running.

It does include in the front pages:

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This timetable shows train services between Exeter, Yeovil, Salisbury and London Waterloo.
It also shows train services between:
l Bristol Temple Meads, Bath Spa, Yeovil Pen Mill and London Waterloo - see timetable 20A
l Yeovil Pen Mill and Weymouth - see timetable 20B.

but although they show SWR connections into Waterloo, they do not show GWR (Great Western Railway) connections to / from Bristol.   All very insular!
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« Reply #399 on: December 10, 2021, 10:30:53 am »

Perhaps what was missing, then, from SWR» (South Western Railway - about), were 'Withdrawal of train services' posters at the affected stations. (To include London Terminals such as Cannon Street - never good to slap withdrawal of train services notices up at stations in the square mile, but needs must.) For added resonance, for the design, perhaps, a BR (British Rail(ways)) template for the design.

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« Reply #400 on: December 10, 2021, 01:35:15 pm »

On the national rail and SWR» (South Western Railway - about) web sites, looking for trains for travel tomorrow i.e. Saturday, every alternate up train from Salisbury between 05:40 and after 7pm is cancelled owing to shortage of train crew.

Among other things, not a good day for the train service from the likes of Whitchurch, which will have none all day, but also results in (even more) extended journey times to Waterloo from the West Wiltshire stations.

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« Reply #401 on: December 10, 2021, 03:28:30 pm »

On the matter of the 'Other' SWR» (South Western Railway - about) petition, it achieved over 9000 signatures and a response via Twitter from Grant Schapps...

https://www.change.org/p/south-western-railway-bring-back-richard-and-george

The railway has resolved the matter of Horsley station's staff dog.

(Following link is to Mail Online...)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10296137/Station-master-dog-George-welcomed-Surrey-ticket-office-bosses-U-turn.html

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« Reply #402 on: December 10, 2021, 04:27:48 pm »

The final Waterloo service from Bristol Temple Meads, 1O60, departing 1550. 2 car 158881. Rough head count of 80 (plus one dog) aboard from Bristol. Here's grahame, Finn and I awaiting departure.




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« Reply #403 on: December 10, 2021, 04:43:46 pm »

It's an interesting indictment on the way of the world today, whether it be politics, horse racing or the railways, so many people involved can't accept when they are clearly in the wrong, or when the way things are done very clearly needs to change.
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« Reply #404 on: December 10, 2021, 07:38:34 pm »



...toward Bristol after tonight.
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