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« on: February 23, 2022, 10:23:46 »

"Everybody has to take greater care": Cyclists react to ban on long dog leads near cycle paths
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From April, Teignbridge District Council will enforce a new public space protection order requiring dogs walkers to use leads shorter than a metre near cycle paths and highways, or face a fine
I have to say I agree with this, not normally a fan of PSPOs. I was nearly garotted by an extensible lead some years ago. There is a recorded court case that said that extensible leads do not count as having a dog under control, unfortunately did not set a legal precedent.

The comments probably coincide with comments else where about untrained "Covid" dogs.

It will be interesting to see if it is any more enforceable than the existing law that dogs must be under control on a public right of way.
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2022, 10:36:10 »

Fine, as long as the few cyclists that ‘walk’ (read run) their dogs whipr cycling are also under the same restriction. I’ve had a dog wrap their lead around my legs while running with a cyclist owner
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2022, 11:03:52 »

It will be interesting to see if it is any more enforceable than the existing law that dogs must be under control on a public right of way.
If only. I often see precious little of that whilst out walking. And yet when walking in parks in London, dogs off the lead are immaculately behaved so it can be done.
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2022, 16:14:29 »

"Everybody has to take greater care": Cyclists react to ban on long dog leads near cycle paths
https://road.cc/content/news/cyclists-react-long-dog-lead-ban-near-cycle-paths-290509
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From April, Teignbridge District Council will enforce a new public space protection order requiring dogs walkers to use leads shorter than a metre near cycle paths and highways, or face a fine
I have to say I agree with this, not normally a fan of PSPOs. I was nearly garotted by an extensible lead some years ago. There is a recorded court case that said that extensible leads do not count as having a dog under control, unfortunately did not set a legal precedent.

The comments probably coincide with comments else where about untrained "Covid" dogs.

It will be interesting to see if it is any more enforceable than the existing law that dogs must be under control on a public right of way.

Would you say a working dog like a sheep dog or a police dog is “under control?” Of course they are but they are not on a lead.

If a dog is trained properly then they don’t need to be on a lead to be under control. Current regulations say that a dog should be under control; it does not say that a dog should be on a lead because they are two different things. This is one of those misconceptions many of the public have, another being a misunderstanding of the term Right of Way.

The last two dogs I had (from the same litter and loving from 1995 to2009 and 2010) thought it was a special treat to be put on their leads. They were rarely on leads and didn’t need to be.

By the way, I was also a cyclist for many years until my glaucoma made me give it up. As a cyclist I never had a problem with dogs, mine or anybody else’s.

I think this order, if it is as suggested above that dogs must be on leads, could probably be seen as an extension of the law and would fail f challenged in Court.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2022, 20:10:28 »

It could be read to read not that the dog needs to be on a lead, just that if it is  the lead needs to be short.
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2022, 21:50:24 »

I see ... competition for 'pavement' space ... here in Melksham - not only issues of cycles being forced into a decision between being legal but feeling in danger on the road and being illegal but not putting themselves at risk.  And add to that we were talking at Town Council to a lady with a guide dog who themselves pushed toward the edge of the high pavement by a person of advanced years on a mobilty scooter who wanted to avoid the edge too. Talk then moved on to scooters too at town council and how / whether we can help accommodate all the modes without temper(atures) rising.

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Subject line correct - "Everybody has to take greater care" - and out biggest problem on the High Pavement is mobility scooters that think they own it (or rather their drivers think that).
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