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Author Topic: Mass Right to Roam protest planned in West Berkshire  (Read 1890 times)
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2022, 01:04:45 pm »

I do concede that there are a few private tracks that I would like to take for the sake of convenience.

It's... complicated. Footpath networks are often larger than the formal network of rights of way, and when the network collapses to include only the formal ones its easy to lose a few essentials. I'm thinking here of a former workplace with a footpath connection that shortened the walk to the local station to  three quarters of an hour.

Not a right of way, the footpath's now blocked by a leisure development. The former workplace will now be housing (but perhaps not the sort of housing for people who would value a footpaths-and-quiet-roads route to the local station). The diversion, as I found last spring adds perhaps half an hour and involves use of a fast narrow rural road with no pavement.

On the other hand... thinking of a local footpath which takes, for a short distance, a very intrusive route through the somewhat precipitous garden of a rural dwelling, along paths, practically through their kitchen and up a flight of stone steps... it's on a valuable but minimally used route between villages and though the people in the house understandably tried without success to have it diverted at one time. It's still open... fast forward to the c21st and someone puts together what they hoped would be a big organised charity fundraising walk routed around engaging local footpaths... and of course they included this one. (The outcome, this being 2020, Covid killed off the event which is just as well otherwise the stone steps might have caught out a few of 'em.)

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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2022, 02:21:34 pm »

Somewhat OT, but I do hope tht those who expound equality and diversity on this forum and others are of similar mind when travellers set up on a patch of land near them.
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2022, 11:30:02 am »

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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2022, 04:32:31 pm »

Somewhat OT, but I do hope that those who expound equality and diversity on this forum and others are of similar mind when travellers set up on a patch of land near them.

No sympathy from me, nor from most neighbours.
Stories abound of stolen plant and machinery being fitted with tracking devices, and located in a traveler camp.

The only way of retrieving the equipment is by substantial and illegal armed force. Traveler camps are are no go areas for the police, who will only enter after prolonged talks with "community leaders"

I find this intriguing. As somebody who remembers the “No dogs, no blacks, no Irish” signs appearing on “Rooms to let” advertisements, and as someone who remembers the colour bar that Bristol Omnibus Company had in the 1950s and 1960s, and hearing reports even today, of people being less likely to be offered job interviews if they’ve got a foreign-sounding surname, it appears that there is still work to do.

Some 30-odd years ago I was sitting in a pub with a local opinionated individual was holding forth about some travellers who had just moved in to a car park close by. Says he “crime has increased by 300% in Chippenham since those b****** turned up.” I asked for the evidence - had he seen the crime book? Did he know of any cases personally – not hearsay, but evidenced? The answer of course was no, although not stated as a one word straight answer!

I also mentioned that there was a joke doing the rounds at the time in Bristol. “Where do tyre fitters go for training? “ They go to watch a bunch of 6-year-old kids getting tyres off on Hartcliffe estate... There are good and bad in all communities. But generally we don’t tar ‘em all with the same brush

These days racism and sexism is completely non-PC and often illegal. But never mind all that – we are still allowed to be beastly to the gippos, and we don’t do it by halves, do we...
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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2022, 06:59:26 pm »

I'd add that many people living in vans and busses are not from "travelling communities" but in fact stay in one place and work a steady job. Their reasons for living in a vehicle are purely financial.

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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2022, 08:58:46 pm »

Somewhat OT

Very OT. Roll Eyes

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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2022, 05:51:04 am »

It may be the way that this article is written, but this protest seems likely only to stir up ill-feeling

Right back to the start of the thread - it has done so here too, and brought some WAY off topic responses, which have been of considerable concern to our moderator team.

There are big, big topics raised here - which are a long, long way from issues of trains, track and travel planning which is the forum's focus. It's not our main direction, so I am locking the thread for the moment - personally, I am (literally) at sea  and with a limited connection and view, and it may well be that others on the moderator team who have better access and knowledge come in during the day and take this further.

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