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« on: March 28, 2022, 19:18:32 »

Feature on BBC1 spotlight local news,about the new road bridge over the rail line between Torquay and Paignton  near Livermead?
Hoping to have the bridge completed by the end of May for the start of the Torbay airshow on 4/5 june
How does a contract go from nine weeks to five months?
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2022, 20:03:33 »


Delay caused by ensuring the BT cables remain complete! Might it be related to knowing whete the assets are.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-60899795
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2022, 22:10:40 »

Five concrete crossbeams came down last Wednesday on 5 lorries. Overnight they were lifted into Goodrington carriage sidings where there has been a rail crane for the last two weeks.  It was these beans that have held things up.

There is also one flat wagon. there is no locomotive as the one that brought the crane from Westbury went back the same night it bought the crane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot2ZyIQpZ28
Looking at spotlight one beam was in place; so how? Are they using one of the Steam railways locos to transport one beam at a time under possession?
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2022, 11:01:16 »

Five concrete crossbeams came down last Wednesday on 5 lorries. Overnight they were lifted into Goodrington carriage sidings where there has been a rail crane for the last two weeks.  It was these beans that have held things up.

There is also one flat wagon. there is no locomotive as the one that brought the crane from Westbury went back the same night it bought the crane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot2ZyIQpZ28
Looking at spotlight one beam was in place; so how? Are they using one of the Steam railways locos to transport one beam at a time under possession?

The Kirow crane can be operated in self propelled mode within a worksite and with its counterweight extended behind can carry such a beam with the jib pointing along the track in front of it.

It’s also possible the Kirow can haul a load on a flat wagon anyway.

Paul
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2022, 11:30:56 »

More images
https://www.flickr.com/photos/revupminster/51969090340/in/dateposted-public/

One of the five crossbeams delivered 23 March 2022, one in background. Three others on the Dartmouth Road waiting to be craned over the wall. The gate has also been enlarged by demolishing part of wall.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/revupminster/51968810644/in/dateposted-public/

Ledges the beams are to be placed on.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/revupminster/51969081915/in/dateposted-public/

One in situ 28 March 2022. Four to go.

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2022, 23:37:19 »

A little on the bridge renewal and the former Livermead Tunnel (scroll down):

https://www.teignrail.co.uk/scouting/1450-2/
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2022, 09:02:22 »


What an excellent and enlightening article by ‘ Teignrail’ on this railway bridge near Torquay and its ongoing and disruptive replacement.

The following paragraph, extracted from the article is of particular relevance at a time when the justification for the increasing frequencies of railway Blockades and Bustitution (the practice of replacing trains with buses) is being queried:-

“In earler times, certainly up until the 1970s, the bridge would have been progressively opened out while one side was kept open to road traffic. During a weekend possession, the old bridge sections would have been lifted out and the new work, brought by rail, installed using steam (rail) cranes at each side.”
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2022, 10:06:52 »


What an excellent and enlightening article by ‘ Teignrail’ on this railway bridge near Torquay and its ongoing and disruptive replacement.

The following paragraph, extracted from the article is of particular relevance at a time when the justification for the increasing frequencies of railway Blockades and Bustitution (the practice of replacing trains with buses) is being queried:-

“In earler times, certainly up until the 1970s, the bridge would have been progressively opened out while one side was kept open to road traffic. During a weekend possession, the old bridge sections would have been lifted out and the new work, brought by rail, installed using steam (rail) cranes at each side.”


Paul7575 above said the crane can be operated on site by itself. It arrived on the 28 February. The concrete crossbeams, at Goodrington coach sidings, not until 23 March. They were late. One has been installed; maybe more by now.
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2022, 15:05:01 »

Paid a visit to the site. 2nd beam went in Tuesday, 3rd beam loaded up on crane in Goodrington goes in tonight, 4th beam Thursday and 5th on Saturday.
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2022, 16:38:52 »

I see the local press and/or MP (Member of Parliament) are now kicking off about “wrong type of crane”, etc etc. 

But when they print a member of the public’s suggestions that the work should have been done two years ago during the first lockdown, to avoid problems now,  Huh it just makes me wonder if there are any real journalists any more…
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2022, 20:49:27 »

Engine coming down from Westbury 7 April to collect crane. Leaving Goodrington at 14.12 back to Westbury.
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2022, 23:21:14 »

The crane left nearly 2 hours early so I missed it. Sat at Taunton over an hour and half before arriving at Westbury 6 minutes late.

The crane had been at Goodrington since the 28th February but the five beams not until 23 March. Installed one a night commencing 28 march.
The plan now is to complete half the road by May so southbound traffic can use the new bridge while northbound use the diversion.
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