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« Reply #375 on: December 05, 2022, 09:11:11 am »

I do remember reading somewhere the RDG(resolve) wanted an expansion of DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) routes.
Something I disagree with (non railwayman/person).  It is invaluable to have a train manager/guard and also catering personnel on board.
Totally with the membership.
Very little to do with the headline 8% but it's the small print that matters more.
A UK (United Kingdom) rail service, all DOO, and all on zero hours contracts. Ideal.  What could possibly go wrong  Sad
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« Reply #376 on: December 05, 2022, 09:14:35 am »

The RDG(resolve) principles seem well thought out and reflect the modern and evolving environment in which overall demand for rail services (and revenue) has fallen as a consequence of new working patterns and less business travel, balanced against some increases in leisure travel and the need to embrace that opportunity to offset the reduction elsewhere.

It also acknowledges that far fewer people need the services of ticket offices and instead the railway needs to raise its game and be more oriented to the needs of customers, not just its employees.

These and similar lessons have been learned elsewhere in business and the wider economy over several decades now - some organisations have not adapted, and as such some are no longer in business.

When you read the response from the RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) you can almost hear the fists banging on the table and the feet stamping.

It would be interesting to ask Bruvver Lynch for a list of changes to the status quo which he'd be prepared to accept (Given that the membership don't seem to get a vote any more). I suspect it would be rather short.

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« Reply #377 on: December 05, 2022, 06:57:26 pm »

Further strike announced by the RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers). 6pm on Christmas Eve until 6am on 27th December.
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« Reply #378 on: December 05, 2022, 07:02:54 pm »

Meaning shut down *by* 6pm I think? So very few long distance services after lunchtime, and most others by 4pm
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« Reply #379 on: December 05, 2022, 07:09:12 pm »

RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) membership on the Network Rail side getting a chance to vote on their offer with a recommendation to reject it from the union.
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« Reply #380 on: December 05, 2022, 07:19:11 pm »

I'm borrowing a car from 24th - 27th December. Although collecting it and taking it back is now looking more difficult thanks to this latest RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) announcement.

I may now have to cancel plans to attend a gathering of my family planned for the 24h - some not seen since before the pandemic.

Thank you very much Bruvver Lynch. Merry f****** Christmas to you.
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« Reply #381 on: December 05, 2022, 07:40:04 pm »

“There is no good time to have a strike. We have left the Christmas period strike-free deliberately” - Mick Lynch
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« Reply #382 on: December 05, 2022, 08:51:57 pm »

Meaning shut down *by* 6pm I think? So very few long distance services after lunchtime, and most others by 4pm

Ah - maybe issues with 1X01 this year then.   Which union are the crew members of?
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« Reply #383 on: December 05, 2022, 08:54:51 pm »

Meaning shut down *by* 6pm I think? So very few long distance services after lunchtime, and most others by 4pm

Ah - maybe issues with 1X01 this year then.   Which union are the crew members of?

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« Reply #384 on: December 05, 2022, 09:05:24 pm »

Meaning shut down *by* 6pm I think? So very few long distance services after lunchtime, and most others by 4pm

From a quick look around, it's the usual no booking on during that time. So the final cutoff is what time the next shifts after 6pm start.

Similarly, would morning shifts typically start before or after 6am on the 27? That could make a big difference to how useful the service is that day.
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« Reply #385 on: December 06, 2022, 12:18:34 pm »

Bear in mind these additional strike days are on Network Rail, not the TOCs (Train Operating Company). So maintenance & signallers. I understand that at TVSC» (Thames Valley Signalling Centre - about) at least, & therefore probably other boxes, there is a shift that changes over around teatime, so between 5 & 7pm. Always thought it strange that a changeover happens during the evening peak.

RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) also quoted by Sky News saying shut down on Xmas Eve will be earlier than usual.

And there’s a shift change hust before/at 6am, so bo trains until after the following shift change…maybe very late in the day before they book on on 27th.
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« Reply #386 on: December 06, 2022, 12:23:51 pm »

TSSA» (Transport Salaried Staffs' Association - about) have called off strike action and recommended acceptance of their pay offer
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« Reply #387 on: December 06, 2022, 12:50:00 pm »

Bear in mind these additional strike days are on Network Rail, not the TOCs (Train Operating Company). So maintenance & signallers. ...

I find myself wondering if these dates have been chosen because they'll apply more pressure to Network Rail, hitting the major engineering works at Christmas program which can't easily be moved back a couple of weeks.   Also popular with staff who, perhaps, don't want to work Christmas.
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« Reply #388 on: December 06, 2022, 01:10:19 pm »

Yep,I reckon so!
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« Reply #389 on: December 06, 2022, 01:18:00 pm »

Bear in mind these additional strike days are on Network Rail, not the TOCs (Train Operating Company). So maintenance & signallers. ...

I find myself wondering if these dates have been chosen because they'll apply more pressure to Network Rail, hitting the major engineering works at Christmas program which can't easily be moved back a couple of weeks.   Also popular with staff who, perhaps, don't want to work Christmas.

I presume those working on Christmas Day/Boxing day would be receiving pretty chunky overtime rates to do so, hence it might not be quite so popular........notwithstanding Bruvver Mick's overtime ban.
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