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« on: August 07, 2022, 12:46:51 pm »

https://www.gwr.com/stations-and-destinations/travel-inspiration/festivals-and-events/boardmasters-festival

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When is Boardmasters Festival?
Boardmasters is taking place at Fistral Beach in Newquay from 10 to 14 August 2022.

What to expect at Boardmasters Festival
Boardmasters Festival is the UK (United Kingdom)’s biggest surf and music festival. Set across two stunning sites in the lively and picturesque coastal town of Newquay, Cornwall, the festival brings together like-minded souls with a love of music, surfing, wellbeing and the outdoors.

Over 200 artists play across 12 stages up at Watergate Bay. From international headliners through to breaking acts, the bill is an eclectic mix of genres. There’s something here for everyone. Headliners this year include George Ezra, Disclosure and Kings of Leon.

As well as the competitions, 300 miles of spectacular Cornish coastline offers amazing beaches and spots to discover. Festival goers are encouraged to hit the beach and surf by day, party by night.

Be aware of GWR (Great Western Railway)’s surfboard policy. Surfboards are not allowed on board our mainline IET (Intercity Express Train) trains. You can still take surfboards on our Night Riviera Sleeper and local services.

Industrial action Saturday 13 August
Strike action by the train drivers’ union, Aslef, will mean there are no train services in Cornwall on Saturday 13 August. Train services will also be disrupted on Sunday 14 August. Journey planners are still being updated so please check your journey just before you intend to travel.

Things to see and do in Newquay
Getting to Boardmasters couldn’t be easier. First, hop on a train to Newquay station. Once you’ve arrived in Newquay, there will be shuttle busses from just outside the station. If you’re heading to Watergate Bay, get on the bus outside the Great Western Hotel, for Fistral outside Burger King. Reservations are recommended on trains to Newquay on Wednesday 10, Thursday 11, and Friday 12 August. Reservations are mandatory on trains from Newquay on Monday 15 August.

Please note:
surfboards cannot be taken on long distance trains and local hire is recommended

wheeled cases are allowed but four-wheel trolleys and sack trucks will not be

Those travelling should:
allow extra time because trains to and from Newquay will be busy
expect queues
get to the station at least 30 minutes before your reserved train is due to depart

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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2022, 07:29:13 pm »

Interesting collision of 'It couldn't be easier' with 'There's disruption from industrial action, and remember we don't accept surfboards.'

I wonder how many surfboards would fit in an IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project.) kitchen? :-)

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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2022, 10:40:36 pm »

There does seem to be a degree of making it up as they go along to deal with a specific problem for this event.  It's perhaps surprising that they don't apply more restrictions for travel to Glastonbury Festival as the amount some people carry must really slow down loading and unloading and overload the luggage racks.  The general National Rail rules refer to an additional charge for "Each article exceeding one metre in any dimension that can be carried by one person"; GWR (Great Western Railway) seem prepared to accept longer articles at no charge on some trains but a fuller explanation of how to work out which trains do take surfboards would have been useful for the target audience.  Most trains to Newquay are local trains, surely, so it's the mainline leg that's the problem.  Ironically the "Castle" HSTs (High Speed Train) probably come under the local train description.
 
London Underground incidentally is normally happy to allow objects up to 2 metres long according to its Conditions of Carriage.
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2022, 12:20:52 pm »

Interesting collision of 'It couldn't be easier' with 'There's disruption from industrial action, and remember we don't accept surfboards.'

Indeed - it COULD be easier if, for example, there was no industrial action, no ban on surfboards on some trains but not others, and if a walkup ticket valid for the route and day could be used to walk up and travel the route that day.

Even I had some trouble working out how I would travel from London with my surfboard. "From London, passengers with surfboards should travel from Waterloo via Salisbury to Exeter, and change there into a train that starts at Exeter or comes from the Bristol direction.   If that's too slow or awkward, why not drive?"   Sorry - GWR (Great Western Railway) - your web page smacks of 1984 doublespeak and 38 years after that, it feels like time to put all the customers and the environment ahead of cherry picking the business.   The railway as a common carrier of people and the luggage they can reasonably carry.
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2022, 12:55:28 pm »

How long until carriage of surfboards on Waterloo to Exeter services is prohibited ?
Or perhaps it would be simpler to prohibit surfboards on all trains.
Drive instead, the climate emergency is now very last year.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2022, 02:08:54 pm »


London Underground incidentally is normally happy to allow objects up to 2 metres long according to its Conditions of Carriage.

Other accompanied luggage aside, how else would people be expected to transport double basses.

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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2022, 10:25:28 pm »

Next Monday I’m on standby 0800-2000 with a coach at Newquay rail station, so appears some contingencies have been planned by GWR (Great Western Railway).
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2022, 08:33:37 am »


London Underground incidentally is normally happy to allow objects up to 2 metres long according to its Conditions of Carriage.

Other accompanied luggage aside, how else would people be expected to transport double basses.

Mark

A colleague's daughter plays the double bass in an orchestra who perform internationally and you would not believe (well, you probably would!) the hassle involved.
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2022, 12:50:46 pm »

Day before Boardmasters starts, outstanding!

Cancellations on the branch too.


09:04 London Paddington to Newquay due 14:17 was terminated at Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Saltash, St Germans, Liskeard, Bodmin Parkway, Par and Newquay.
This is due to a points failure.
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2022, 09:17:35 pm »

From Devon Live

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Festival goers are heading to Boardmasters in Newquay today (10 August) from all over the country - some even travelling from London. However there is a huge demand for trains with some people describing Plymouth Railway Station as "chaos" - despite people having pre-booked tickets.

We spoke to groups of friends and families who have been left stuck at Plymouth's station, many who have travelled from afar from places like London and Sussex for the festival. Many passengers were outside the station with their camping luggage in the heat, desperate to find transport to Newquay.
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2022, 04:33:19 am »

Appalling service, even those with booked seats being turned away. We have long known that bookings are automatically voided on half length trains, it would appear that this now applies to popular events also.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2022, 06:08:56 am »

Some film footage was shown on the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) Spotlight local news for the south west of England on Wednesday.

It appears as if if they were checking tickets on leaving the station.
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2022, 07:10:56 am »

Same story every year.

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/stacked-boardmasters-trains-mean-festival-7448243
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2022, 08:02:13 am »

The Newquay branch. I don't know it. Is it a 20 mile single line with no passing places and a single terminating platform? To a town of 20,000, but one that can see 80,000 visitors at a time?

That's a recipe for unending pain, why is the railway bothering? (Or rather, why are the politicians pretending that  that's ok, 'cos the Newquay branch sounds to be a 1960s slash-and-burn relic.)

TSNO, the four letter acronym for 'Train Service in Name Only'.

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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2022, 08:18:56 am »

The Newquay branch. I don't know it. Is it a 20 mile single line with no passing places and a single terminating platform? To a town of 20,000, but one that can see 80,000 visitors at a time?

That's a recipe for unending pain, why is the railway bothering? (Or rather, why are the politicians pretending that  that's ok, 'cos the Newquay branch sounds to be a 1960s slash-and-burn relic.)

TSNO, the four letter acronym for 'Train Service in Name Only'.

Mark

Almost - there is a passing place at Goonbarrow Junction, and it may be double (not sure) first couple of miles from Par to St Blazey.

The midCornwall Metro is looking at adding another loop and a second platform at Newquay. So perhaps the political types are NOT pretending it's OK
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