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« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2022, 03:12:51 pm »

Real Time Trains suggests they were scheduled to pass each other between Par and St Blazey.

1A94 left Newquay on time at 14:55, and indeed Goonbarrow, on time but picked up a delay of well over half an hour between there are St Blazey where it called at 16:15 / 16:16 versus a schedule of 15:37 / 15:38

1N78 left Par on time at 15:31, but didn't call at St Blazey until 16:11 to 16:17, versus a schedule of 15:33 / 15:39. It trailed into Newquay 44 minutes late at 17:06.   It set off back at 17:25 (versus a 16:50 schedule) ...

At the time 1N78 departed Par, 1A94 had already entered the single-line section, but had not had time to reach St Blazey signal box. So the question must be where did 1N78 advance to to await 1A94, and why did wherever it ended up prevent 1A94 passing it?
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« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2022, 06:51:47 pm »

1N78 and 1A94 discovered on Wednesday that two 9 cars IETs (Intercity Express Train) can’t fit past each other in one of the passing loops. Resulted in 1N78 reversing back off the branch and 45 min late arrivals

Obviously no one could have foreseen that.
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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2022, 07:06:07 pm »

Shows the state our railways are in. Too much talk and not enough practical people.
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« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2022, 09:07:20 pm »

Just 4 departures from Newquay today.

Tomorrow ...
Buses to Luxulyan at 07:12, 09:15, 13:10 and 17:19
Trains to Paddington at 07:40, 09:19, 11:18, 13:19, 14:55 and 18:04. 
Trains to Par at 19:45 and 21:34
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« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2022, 10:25:11 pm »

Just 4 departures from Newquay today.

Tomorrow ...
Buses to Luxulyan at 07:12, 09:15, 13:10 and 17:19
Trains to Paddington at 07:40, 09:19, 11:18, 13:19, 14:55 and 18:04. 
Trains to Par at 19:45 and 21:34

We’ve at least 4 coaches on standby at Newquay rail station tomorrow too.
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« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2022, 09:53:24 am »

So what's the answer to this now annual problem? Using Par and/or Bodmin Parkway as a staging point for Boardmasters and using road transport for the rest of the journey to/from the Festival? It's clear now that the NQY (Newquay (Station)) line isn't robust enough to cope, at least until the Mid Cornwall Metro work is completed.
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« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2022, 10:57:08 am »

So what's the answer to this now annual problem? Using Par and/or Bodmin Parkway as a staging point for Boardmasters and using road transport for the rest of the journey to/from the Festival? It's clear now that the NQY (Newquay (Station)) line isn't robust enough to cope, at least until the Mid Cornwall Metro work is completed.

Sounds like a good idea.
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« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2022, 11:14:43 am »

The roads don’t sound robust enough to cope either:  https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/boardmasters-road-chaos-starts-music-7445532.amp
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« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2022, 03:51:44 pm »

Not great news for anyone who'd stayed on in an attempt to avoid the inevitable Sunday/Monday chaos...

11:18 Newquay to London Paddington due 16:29 was terminated at Par and restarted from Plymouth.

It will no longer call at Lostwithiel, Bodmin Parkway, Liskeard, St Germans and Saltash.
This is due to a broken down train.

Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
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« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2022, 04:11:19 pm »

According to Realtime Trains, the 11:18 from Newquay reached Par at 15:37, some 213 late.

The 09:04 Paddington - Newquay had to wait at Goonbarrow for the 11:18 departure, and reached Newquay at 15:50, some 93 late.

It is now on the return journey, the 14:55 departure from Newquay, but 60 late.
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« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2022, 04:16:10 pm »

Given the late running of the 11:18 I am surprised the 09:04 was sent onto the branch and not held at Par.
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« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2022, 04:49:39 pm »

According to Realtime Trains, the 11:18 from Newquay reached Par at 15:37, some 213 late.

The 09:04 Paddington - Newquay had to wait at Goonbarrow for the 11:18 departure, and reached Newquay at 15:50, some 93 late.

It is now on the return journey, the 14:55 departure from Newquay, but 60 late.

Given the late running of the 11:18 I am surprised the 09:04 was sent onto the branch and not held at Par.

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802011 (1A86 11:18 Newquay to Paddington) failed shortly after departure from Newquay.
802114, which was working 1C72 08:04 Paddington to Penzance was terminated at Par and formed 1Z99 to run up the branch and rescue 802011. The combined units then formed 1A86, which was then terminated at Par 213 late. 

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« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2022, 06:04:11 pm »

So what's the answer to this now annual problem? Using Par and/or Bodmin Parkway as a staging point for Boardmasters and using road transport for the rest of the journey to/from the Festival? It's clear now that the NQY (Newquay (Station)) line isn't robust enough to cope, at least until the Mid Cornwall Metro work is completed.

There was no problem with the rail. There was 10 53 seater coaches on Standby, I was one of them. Every 9 car IeT cleared the queue. 1000 or so people queuing with all their camping kit made the queue look huge.

Bodmin parkway is a no go for road transport in general. Of the 10 coaches on standby yesterday, only 1 of them would fit under the low bridge. PSVAR coaches are typically taller than their non PSVAR cousins. I had a Mk2 (Mark 2 coach) Scania Levante (ex national express) and it was marked 12’9. Par is not the best place due to lack of off Road space for coaches to park so we’d end up blocking the road.

Had we been used GWR (Great Western Railway) had suggested they’d send us to Tiverton or Exeter to spread the load and give the options of Paignton and Exeter originating trains
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« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2022, 06:19:41 pm »

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802011 (1A86 11:18 Newquay to Paddington) failed shortly after departure from Newquay.
802114, which was working 1C72 08:04 Paddington to Penzance was terminated at Par and formed 1Z99 to run up the branch and rescue 802011. The combined units then formed 1A86, which was then terminated at Par 213 late. 

GWR (Great Western Railway)'s first 14 coach IET (Intercity Express Train) service?
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« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2022, 06:26:25 pm »

There was no problem with the rail. There was 10 53 seater coaches on Standby, I was one of them. Every 9 car IeT cleared the queue. 1000 or so people queuing with all their camping kit made the queue look huge.

Bodmin parkway is a no go for road transport in general. Of the 10 coaches on standby yesterday, only 1 of them would fit under the low bridge. PSVAR coaches are typically taller than their non PSVAR cousins. I had a Mk2 (Mark 2 coach) Scania Levante (ex national express) and it was marked 12’9. Par is not the best place due to lack of off Road space for coaches to park so we’d end up blocking the road.

Had we been used GWR (Great Western Railway) had suggested they’d send us to Tiverton or Exeter to spread the load and give the options of Paignton and Exeter originating trains

Nice to hear a report from someone actually 'on the ground'.
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