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Question: Please choose one:  (Voting closed: January 12, 2023, 18:49:57)
LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) - 3 (7%)
SR(resolve) - 9 (20.9%)
GWR (Great Western Railway) - 19 (44.2%)
LMS (London Midland Scottish - 1923 to 1948) - 3 (7%)
I don't have a favourite - 9 (20.9%)
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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2023, 19:18:22 »

Partly where I was brought up. Partly Brunel.
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2023, 20:05:37 »

Does this just come down to where you were brought up, or is there more to it than that?

People might be biased by where they were brought up - but how could anyone complete with the company that brought you ...
* Only international passenger trains
* The ultimate 0-6-0 (Q1 class)
* Schools class - most elegant and powerful 4-4-0
* Steam locomotive with thermic siphons, bogies and cabs at each end
* First heavily electrified mass transit railway
* First double decker train in the UK (United Kingdom)
* and was the only company with separate network on an island

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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2023, 21:06:26 »

* and was the only company with separate network on an island

The LMS (London Midland Scottish - 1923 to 1948) owned the Northern Counties Committee network in Northern Ireland, post grouping.
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2023, 21:21:18 »

* and was the only company with separate network on an island

The LMS (London Midland Scottish - 1923 to 1948) owned the Northern Counties Committee network in Northern Ireland, post grouping.

I was thinking standard gauge but neglected to be specific to that ...(my excuse)
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2023, 07:05:51 »

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People might be biased by where they were brought up - but how could anyone complete with the company that brought you ...
* Only international passenger trains
* The ultimate 0-6-0 (Q1 class)
* Schools class - most elegant and powerful 4-4-0
* Steam locomotive with thermic siphons, bogies and cabs at each end
* First heavily electrified mass transit railway
* First double decker train in the UK (United Kingdom)
* and was the only company with separate network on an island

Were they the only company who collected tolls on road bridges (Hayling and Stetning branches)?
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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2023, 08:06:09 »

Were they the only company who collected tolls on road bridges (Hayling and Steyning branches)?

Caledonian / LMS (London Midland Scottish - 1923 to 1948) collected tolls on the Connel Bridge
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2023, 16:00:47 »

Does this just come down to where you were brought up, or is there more to it than that?

People might be biased by where they were brought up - but how could anyone complete with the company that brought you ...
* Only international passenger trains

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I am bored - and feeling pedantic. They may be the only company to bring international trains. They didn't bring only international trains but lots of others as well. But wait. Were the Hook Continental and its siblings not also international trains? Were the boat trains to Plymouth (think City of Truro) and Liverpool not also International trains?  If you mean actual trans-border stock movements, I am sure that i have seen photos of (freight) trains being loaded onto the ferry at Harwich.

So many questions. So many answers. That's what makes this forum fun.
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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2023, 16:05:58 »

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...  If you mean actual trans-border stock movements, I am sure that i have seen photos of (freight) trains being loaded onto the ferry at Harwich.

So many questions. So many answers. That's what makes this forum fun.

Indeed.  What I said and what you nearly surmised.  International passenger stock movements with passengers in that stock at the time.

Agree on the fun - noting http://www.passenger.chat/27089 which I was writing at the very same time you were posting!
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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2023, 16:39:13 »

Does this just come down to where you were brought up, or is there more to it than that?

People might be biased by where they were brought up - but how could anyone complete with the company that brought you ...
* Only international passenger trains
* The ultimate 0-6-0 (Q1 class)
* Schools class - most elegant and powerful 4-4-0
* Steam locomotive with thermic siphons, bogies and cabs at each end
* First heavily electrified mass transit railway
* First double decker train in the UK (United Kingdom)
* and was the only company with separate network on an island

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For most of the area covered by this forum, the GWR (Great Western Railway) shared its territory with other railways - the Southern all the way to the West Country, and the LMS (London Midland Scottish - 1923 to 1948) into Bristol and South Wales. Our choices don't just come down to where we are brought up.

So what makes the GWR unique?

At the heart of the GWR is what we could refer to as HS0 - Britain's first High-Speed inter-city railway, from Bristol to London. It's Engineer's Line Reference says it all: MLN, or Main Line. Was anything better built before HS1 (High Speed line 1 - St Pancras to Channel Tunnel)?

GWR's standard locos under Churchward led, through his protege Stanier, to the British Rail Standard locos. Evening Star was arguably the pinnacle of Great Western loco design. GWR locos didn't need lipstick or party frocks to make them look good or, more to the point, 'right'.

But perhaps the main thing the GWR had that set it aside from the other roads is that it alone survived the grouping:



It didn't have to contend with the upheavals or internal rivalries that beset the other three. It didn't just keep the name of a previous company - it survived, enlarged, with its culture and traditions intact.
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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2023, 16:57:40 »

Sorry to be a bit slow getting back to this, and thanks for all your votes and input. I finally succumbed to COVID just after Xmas, and have been out of commission for a week or so. But I'm on the mend now!

Good to see you back and repaired / recovering.   YOUR health comes even before GWR (Great Western Railway)'s position in the rail hierarchy ... including their way of inflating their mileage by being the "Great Way Round".  To this day, Taunton to Cardiff at 2 and a quarter hours on a through train to cover the less than 40 miles as the crow flies must be one of the longest diversions and slowest journeys in the UK (United Kingdom).    Just imagine what would be said if London to Tunbridge Wells ... or Rochester ...  or Haywards Heath ... or Guildford (similar distances) took as long  Grin
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Good to see you back and repaired / recovering.   YOUR health comes even before GWR (Great Western Railway)'s position in the rail hierarchy ... including their way of inflating their mileage by being the "Great Way Round".  To this day, Taunton to Cardiff at 2 and a quarter hours on a through train to cover the less than 40 miles as the crow flies must be one of the longest diversions and slowest journeys in the UK (United Kingdom).    Just imagine what would be said if London to Tunbridge Wells ... or Rochester ...  or Haywards Heath ... or Guildford (similar distances) took as long  Grin

I look forward to the day that this is shortened by running a class 800 equipped with air bags down the railway pier at Burnham to reappear at Penarth or Barry.
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