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« on: March 01, 2023, 06:13:14 »

Two trains have collided. 32 lives lost according to early reports.
Viewing the scale of destruction, it seems likely that the death toll will increase.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-64807384

Our thoughts are no doubt with the bereaved and injured.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2023, 06:33:53 »

Two trains have collided. 32 lives lost according to early reports.
Viewing the scale of destruction, it seems likely that the death toll will increase.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-64807384

Our thoughts are no doubt with the bereaved and injured.

Another account

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/greece-train-crash-at-least-32-dead/
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2023, 08:31:10 »

36 lives lost according to latest reports. Said to be the worst ever rail accident in Greece.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2023, 13:42:44 »

A later report states that that "the train system was being worked manually" and also that a station master has been arrested.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2023, 15:04:57 »

Absolutely awful.


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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2023, 17:03:00 »

Death toll now reported as 57.
There have been protests, some of them violent, about this accident and the perceived causes thereof.
]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64820085[url][/url]
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2023, 05:24:09 »

Death toll now reported as 57.
There have been protests, some of them violent, about this accident and the perceived causes thereof.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64820085[url]]]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64820085[url][/url]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64820085
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2023, 07:26:18 »

A later report states that that "the train system was being worked manually" and also that a station master has been arrested.

This accident is truly horrific, as a professional Railwayman my thoughts are with the bereaved family and friends, the survivors and the people carrying out the rescue and recoveries.

It is very unnerving that a "station master" is being held accountable when there has been a lack of investment in the Greek rail infrastructure over the last decade or more
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2023, 08:41:56 »

whilst it is possible that the stationmaster did do something, or fail to do something, in a way alleged to be criminally negligent this does look rather like looking for a scapegoat, rather than blaming the system.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2023, 09:35:22 »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64912881

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The last time I saw Dimitra Kapetaniou was when my four-year-old labrador spotted her, pulled me towards her and jumped up on her for a big hug. She lived across the street with her parents and her dog, Freddie, and she graduated last June with a degree in pre-school education.

She was one of 57 confirmed victims in Greece's worst-ever rail disaster and like many of them she was a student.

This tragedy has shaken Greece. So many of the lives lost were young and it has unleashed a national outpouring of grief and outrage mostly directed against the country's ruling classes. Not for the first time, Greeks feel betrayed by their politicians.
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2023, 18:32:03 »

On assignment at 23:05pm on tuesday night one of three reports will feature the Greek rail accident.
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2023, 21:25:56 »

Which channel?
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2023, 22:04:56 »

Radio 4 isn’t it?
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2023, 22:55:10 »

It's on ITV 1 this evening starts 23:05 until 23:35.
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