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« on: May 18, 2008, 02:41:08 pm »

Available here, thanks to the provider of the info: http://www.southwesternlines.co.uk/downloads/fgwdiagmay08/SX_OC180s.pdf

OC501 operates SX ^ forms 502
Booked 180/1.

Old Oak Common Dpt      04+25   5D05
London Paddington   05+00   05.16   1D05
Oxford   06.21   06+25   5D05
Oxford DCS   06+28   07+05   5P10
Oxford   07+08   07.11   1P10
London Paddington   08.22   08+36   5P35
Oxford DCS   10+04   10+26   5P35
Oxford   10+29   10.31   1P35
London Paddington   11.27   11.51   1W02
Hereford   14.57   15+00   5P66
Hereford Rev   15+03   15+13   5P66
Hereford   15+16   15.19   1P66
London Paddington   18.30   18.51   1D65
Oxford   19.50   19+59   5D65
Oxford DCS   20+02   22+17   5P86
Oxford   22+20   22.22   1P86
London Paddington   23.24   23+34   5P86
Old Oak Common Dpt   23+54


OC502 operates SX ^ forms 501
Booked 180/1.
In operation: 19/05/08 ^ 27/06/08.
In operation: 08/09/08 ^ 12/12/08.

Old Oak Common Dpt      04+25   5D05
London Paddington   05+00   05.16   1D05
Oxford   06.21   06+25   5D05
Oxford DCS   06+28   07+05   5P10
Oxford   07+08   07.11   1P10
London Paddington   08.22   08+36   5P35
Oxford DCS   10+04   10+26   5P35
Oxford   10+29   10.31   1P35
London Paddington   11.27   11+42   5P37
Old Oak Common Dpt   12+01


OC502 operates SX ^ forms 501
Booked 180/1. 30/06/08 ^ 05/09/08.

Old Oak Common Dpt      04+25   5D05
London Paddington   05+00   05.16   1D05
Oxford   06.21   06+25   5D05
Oxford DCS   06+28   07+05   5P10
Oxford   07+08   07.11   1P10
London Paddington   08.22   08+36   5P35
Oxford DCS   10+04   10+26   5P35
Oxford   10+29   10.31   1P35
London Paddington   11.27   11+42   5P37
Old Oak Common Dpt   12+01   14+48   5D45
London Paddington   15+06   15.21   1D45
Oxford   16.18   16+22   5D45
Oxford DCS   16+25   16+56   5P63
Oxford   16+59   17.01   1P64
London Paddington   17.58   18.33   1D63
Oxford   20.12   20+16   5D63
Oxford DCS   20+19   20+56   2P81
Oxford   20+59   21.01   1P81
London Paddington   21.59   22+08   5P81
Old Oak Common Dpt   22+56

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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2008, 07:55:25 pm »

Available here, thanks to the provider of the info: http://www.southwesternlines.co.uk/downloads/fgwdiagmay08/SX_OC180s.pdf

OC501 operates SX ^ forms 502
Booked 180/1.

Old Oak Common Dpt      04+25   5D05
London Paddington   05+00   05.16   1D05
Oxford   06.21   06+25   5D05
Oxford DCS   06+28   07+05   5P10
Oxford   07+08   07.11   1P10
London Paddington   08.22   08+36   5P35
Oxford DCS   10+04   10+26   5P35
Oxford   10+29   10.31   1P35
London Paddington   11.27   11.51   1W02
Hereford   14.57   15+00   5P66
Hereford Rev   15+03   15+13   5P66
Hereford   15+16   15.19   1P66
London Paddington   18.30   18.51   1D65
Oxford   19.50   19+59   5D65
Oxford DCS   20+02   22+17   5P86
Oxford   22+20   22.22   1P86
London Paddington   23.24   23+34   5P86
Old Oak Common Dpt   23+54


OC502 operates SX ^ forms 501
Booked 180/1.
In operation: 19/05/08 ^ 27/06/08.
In operation: 08/09/08 ^ 12/12/08.

Old Oak Common Dpt      04+25   5D05
London Paddington   05+00   05.16   1D05
Oxford   06.21   06+25   5D05
Oxford DCS   06+28   07+05   5P10
Oxford   07+08   07.11   1P10
London Paddington   08.22   08+36   5P35
Oxford DCS   10+04   10+26   5P35
Oxford   10+29   10.31   1P35
London Paddington   11.27   11+42   5P37
Old Oak Common Dpt   12+01


OC502 operates SX ^ forms 501
Booked 180/1. 30/06/08 ^ 05/09/08.

Old Oak Common Dpt      04+25   5D05
London Paddington   05+00   05.16   1D05
Oxford   06.21   06+25   5D05
Oxford DCS   06+28   07+05   5P10
Oxford   07+08   07.11   1P10
London Paddington   08.22   08+36   5P35
Oxford DCS   10+04   10+26   5P35
Oxford   10+29   10.31   1P35
London Paddington   11.27   11+42   5P37
Old Oak Common Dpt   12+01   14+48   5D45
London Paddington   15+06   15.21   1D45
Oxford   16.18   16+22   5D45
Oxford DCS   16+25   16+56   5P63
Oxford   16+59   17.01   1P64
London Paddington   17.58   18.33   1D63
Oxford   20.12   20+16   5D63
Oxford DCS   20+19   20+56   2P81
Oxford   20+59   21.01   1P81
London Paddington   21.59   22+08   5P81
Old Oak Common Dpt   22+56



Now, for the non preofesionals - can you put that into plain english - which services will be adelanted up to WOS» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains)/HRF
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2008, 07:58:23 pm »

Available here, thanks to the provider of the info: http://www.southwesternlines.co.uk/downloads/fgwdiagmay08/SX_OC180s.pdf

OC501 operates SX ^ forms 502
Booked 180/1.

Old Oak Common Dpt      04+25   5D05
London Paddington   05+00   05.16   1D05
Oxford   06.21   06+25   5D05
Oxford DCS   06+28   07+05   5P10
Oxford   07+08   07.11   1P10
London Paddington   08.22   08+36   5P35
Oxford DCS   10+04   10+26   5P35
Oxford   10+29   10.31   1P35
London Paddington   11.27   11.51   1W02
Hereford   14.57   15+00   5P66
Hereford Rev   15+03   15+13   5P66
Hereford   15+16   15.19   1P66
London Paddington   18.30   18.51   1D65
Oxford   19.50   19+59   5D65
Oxford DCS   20+02   22+17   5P86
Oxford   22+20   22.22   1P86
London Paddington   23.24   23+34   5P86
Old Oak Common Dpt   23+54


OC502 operates SX ^ forms 501
Booked 180/1.
In operation: 19/05/08 ^ 27/06/08.
In operation: 08/09/08 ^ 12/12/08.

Old Oak Common Dpt      04+25   5D05
London Paddington   05+00   05.16   1D05
Oxford   06.21   06+25   5D05
Oxford DCS   06+28   07+05   5P10
Oxford   07+08   07.11   1P10
London Paddington   08.22   08+36   5P35
Oxford DCS   10+04   10+26   5P35
Oxford   10+29   10.31   1P35
London Paddington   11.27   11+42   5P37
Old Oak Common Dpt   12+01


OC502 operates SX ^ forms 501
Booked 180/1. 30/06/08 ^ 05/09/08.

Old Oak Common Dpt      04+25   5D05
London Paddington   05+00   05.16   1D05
Oxford   06.21   06+25   5D05
Oxford DCS   06+28   07+05   5P10
Oxford   07+08   07.11   1P10
London Paddington   08.22   08+36   5P35
Oxford DCS   10+04   10+26   5P35
Oxford   10+29   10.31   1P35
London Paddington   11.27   11+42   5P37
Old Oak Common Dpt   12+01   14+48   5D45
London Paddington   15+06   15.21   1D45
Oxford   16.18   16+22   5D45
Oxford DCS   16+25   16+56   5P63
Oxford   16+59   17.01   1P64
London Paddington   17.58   18.33   1D63
Oxford   20.12   20+16   5D63
Oxford DCS   20+19   20+56   2P81
Oxford   20+59   21.01   1P81
London Paddington   21.59   22+08   5P81
Old Oak Common Dpt   22+56



Now, for the non preofesionals - can you put that into plain english - which services will be adelanted up to WOS» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains)/HRF
Beleive me that is a lot better than the original, if you looked at that ou would faint.
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2008, 08:02:38 pm »

Set01
0516 Padd-Oxford (Joined to set 2/3)
0711 Oxford-Padd (Joined to set 2/3)
1031 Oxford-Padd (Joined to set 2/3)
1151 Padd-Hereford
1519 Hereford-Padd
1851 Padd-Oxford
2222 Oxford-Padd

Set 2 Runs 19/05/08 ^ 27/06/08.
 08/09/08 ^ 12/12/08.

0516 Padd-Oxford (Joined to set 1)
0711 Oxford-Padd (Joined to set 1)
1031 Oxford-Padd (Joined to set 1)

Set 3
0516 Padd-Oxford (Joined to set 1)
0711 Oxford-Padd (Joined to set 1)
1031 Oxford-Padd (Joined to set 1)
1521 Padd-Oxford
1701 Oxford-Padd
1833 Padd-Oxford
2101 Oxford-Padd

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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2008, 10:30:18 pm »

I wonder why they are slapping a 180 on a Hereford service. Huh

What is wrong with the Oxford services?
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2008, 09:25:16 pm »

Because that Hereford service is very lightly-used in both directions.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2008, 10:16:06 pm »

I wonder why they are slapping a 180 on a Hereford service. Huh

What is wrong with the Oxford services?

These trains can get busy but the main reason for using a 180 is the very tight turnaround at Hereford.

1W02 1151 Paddington to Hereford arrives at 1457 and has to shunt before forming 1P66 1519 Hereford to Paddington. The 22 minutes is just too tight for an HST (High Speed Train)!

1P66 is a key peak train as it passes through Oxford at 1736 and any delay then delays the Cotswold Halts train (1731 from Oxford) and a host of CrossCountry and stopping services heading south.
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2008, 02:30:55 pm »

How do you define busy? A very busy Adelante is the equivalent of a pretty quiet 125 - and these workings aren't busy in Cotswold Line terms, even for an Adelante.

And if it were all that busy coming off the Cotswold Line, it wouldn't be a lot of use as a fast evening peak service out of Oxford - as FGW (First Great Western) discovered very quickly in the morning peaks in December 06, after the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) geniuses decided that already heavily-loaded Cotswold Line trains could pick up most of the Oxford commuters as well.

Yes, the turnaround at Hereford is tight, but is achievable by an HST (High Speed Train) - the issue, as ever, is more to do with late running on the way from London causing trouble, by eating into the time allowed to shunt, assuming it even gets to Hereford - this train kept getting turned back at Ledbury earlier in the year.

And with the structure of the Cotswold Line timetable, just about any late-running service can muck up everything else. Especially the 17.21 ex-London, which was late off Oxford yet again yesterday, stuffing up both the following trains and two coming in the opposite direction. Of all the late afternoon/early evening trains, the halts one is the least likely to cause havoc.

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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2008, 02:41:28 pm »


And with the structure of the Cotswold Line timetable, just about any late-running service can muck up everything else. Especially the 17.21 ex-London, which was late off Oxford yet again yesterday, stuffing up both the following trains and two coming in the opposite direction. Of all the late afternoon/early evening trains, the halts one is the least likely to cause havoc.



But hey - it arrived in WOS» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains) on time!
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2008, 12:07:22 pm »

Saturday diagrams:

 
OC501 ^ forms OC501

Old Oak Common      08+11   5W17
London Paddington   08+24   08.51   1W17
Great Malvern   11.26   11+28   5P48
Malvern Wells   11+30   11+40   5P48
Great Malvern   11+42   11.45   1P48
London Paddington   14.59   15.51   1W43
Great Malvern   18.26   18+30   5P80
Malvern Wells   18+54   19+01   5P80
Great Malvern   19+03   19.20   1P80
London Paddington   22.44   23+12   5P80
Old Oak Common    23+31

OC502 ^ forms OC502
STABLED OLD OAK COMMON. SPARE SET (Super Express Train (now IET)).

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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2008, 04:08:43 pm »

Sunday diagram:

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14.42 London Paddington to Hereford
18.30 Hereford to London Paddington

Valid throughout timetable period.
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2008, 06:34:49 pm »

Does anyone know when the EMT» (East Midlands Trains - about) HST (High Speed Train) will arrive?

And, even though I think I asked this before, how will an EMT HST replace 5 180s? Huh

I done some sums ( Grin ), and they don't add up!
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2008, 06:35:41 pm »

Its a NXEC (National Express East Coast) HST (High Speed Train)

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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2008, 06:39:29 pm »

The 180s are intended to double up when in service, the afternoon diagram that one of them does is just due to a lack of general availability of HSTs (High Speed Train).

There are some 50 HST sets diagrammed out of roughly 54 I think currently?
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2008, 06:41:46 pm »

Its a NXEC (National Express East Coast) HST (High Speed Train)

Really? I thought that Hull Trains' Vomiter clones where going to go to EMT» (East Midlands Trains - about) to join the rest of the Vomiter clones (this would free up an HST for FGW (First Great Western) etc.). Must be old news.

So where will NXEC get extra rolling stock?
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