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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2023, 10:20:59 am »
Quote from: rogerpatenall on November 17, 2023, 09:19:28 am
Quote from: grahame on November 16, 2023, 12:57:24 pm
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The money earner is London - Paris

Mind - the RyanAir model of London (South Greenford) to Paris (Cergy St-Christophe) gets over the St Pancras and Gare du Nord congestion issue

South Greenford? Why not move it a couple of miles and, entering into the realms of absolute, mad, stupid fantasy, to Old Oak Common. . .

Not as daft as it sounds, Old Oak Common box construction has passive provision for a link to HS1▸ (High Speed line 1 - St Pancras to Channel Tunnel) 
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2023, 10:55:22 am »
Quote from: grahame on November 16, 2023, 12:57:24 pm
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The money earner is London - Paris

Mind - the RyanAir model of London (South Greenford) to Paris (Cergy St-Christophe) gets over the St Pancras and Gare du Nord congestion issue

I'm surprised not to see Flix throw their hat in the ring with a Ebbsfleet <> Aachen shuttle integrated with their bus and rail operations.
 
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2023, 10:17:22 am »
Quote from: Electric train on November 17, 2023, 10:20:59 am
Not as daft as it sounds, Old Oak Common ...

Had we been in a parallel universe in which there was an ever more integrated Europe, and then with full HS2▸ (The next High Speed line(s)), it is not beyond scope to imagine a train Edinburgh - Newcastle - York - Leeds - Sheffield - East Midlands - Interchange - Old Oak - Ashford - Lille - Brussels - Koln - Nurnberg - Munchen.    And (stop details to be added) Manchester to Malaga, Bristol to Berlin and Penzance to Palermo.  In the current universe, "not in our generation" I fear.
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2023, 11:18:36 am »
Quote from: Electric train on November 17, 2023, 10:20:59 am
Quote from: rogerpatenall on November 17, 2023, 09:19:28 am
Quote from: grahame on November 16, 2023, 12:57:24 pm
Quote from: Electric train on November 16, 2023, 12:23:11 pm
The money earner is London - Paris

Mind - the RyanAir model of London (South Greenford) to Paris (Cergy St-Christophe) gets over the St Pancras and Gare du Nord congestion issue

South Greenford? Why not move it a couple of miles and, entering into the realms of absolute, mad, stupid fantasy, to Old Oak Common. . .

Not as daft as it sounds, Old Oak Common box construction has passive provision for a link to HS1▸ (High Speed line 1 - St Pancras to Channel Tunnel) 

My comment was tongue in cheek!
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2023, 10:32:35 pm »
Quote from: grahame on November 18, 2023, 10:17:22 am
Quote from: Electric train on November 17, 2023, 10:20:59 am
Not as daft as it sounds, Old Oak Common ...

Had we been in a parallel universe in which there was an ever more integrated Europe, and then with full HS2▸ (The next High Speed line(s)), it is not beyond scope to imagine a train Edinburgh - Newcastle - York - Leeds - Sheffield - East Midlands - Interchange - Old Oak - Ashford - Lille - Brussels - Koln - Nurnberg - Munchen.    And (stop details to be added) Manchester to Malaga, Bristol to Berlin and Penzance to Palermo.  In the current universe, "not in our generation" I fear.

The general view is that budget airlines killed the prospect for long distance rail from the UK▸ (United Kingdom) as much as security requirements or the lack of HS▸ (High Speed (short for HSS▸ (High Speed Services) High Speed Services)) lines did, but it's an interesting exercise to think what might have been if the Channel Tunnel was completed in the 1970s (Nez Cassé to London anyone?) or even the 1900s.
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