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« on: January 03, 2024, 13:14:39 »

According to the usually reliable Oxford Clarion on twitter https://x.com/OxfordClarion/status/1742528741627007417?s=20 GWR (Great Western Railway) have asked permission to start an Oxford to Bristol sevice from Spetember 14th 2024.
Service will start as 2 trains a day on a Saturday calling at Radley, Culham, Appleford, Didcot, Swindon, Chippenham and Bath.
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2024, 13:22:40 »

That's fantastic news. Let's hope it's the start of a fuller service.

Even as someone who used the old Thames/FGW (First Great Western) service when it ran, I have been genuinely surprised several times recently by the number of people you can see at Didcot making their way between Bristol trains and Oxford Turbos.
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2024, 13:28:07 »

Hmmmmm, thought there was no spare rolling stock?
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2024, 14:18:33 »

Guess that is why it is September, following the end of the peak summer services to places like Newquay and Pembroke Dock.
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2024, 15:37:32 »

I wonder as to why the Didcot call.  Didcot is already well served to Bristol and Oxford and using the West Curve would save considerable time and a reversal.
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2024, 15:42:04 »

I wonder as to why the Didcot call.  Didcot is already well served to Bristol and Oxford and using the West Curve would save considerable time and a reversal.

I expect time will tell.   With planned calls at intermediate stations between Didcot and Oxford (but not, I note, between Bath and Bristol) I'm guessing in might be taking the path and contractual service needs of those stations. Releasing a turbo ...
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2024, 16:16:59 »

I wonder as to why the Didcot call.  Didcot is already well served to Bristol and Oxford and using the West Curve would save considerable time and a reversal.

I expect time will tell.   With planned calls at intermediate stations between Didcot and Oxford (but not, I note, between Bath and Bristol) I'm guessing in might be taking the path and contractual service needs of those stations. Releasing a turbo ...

That might be diagrammed Banbury Didcot, the Oxford Bristol service filling the void while the Oxford Banbury is ran .......................... just a wild outta box thought
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2024, 16:19:56 »

I wonder as to why the Didcot call.  Didcot is already well served to Bristol and Oxford and using the West Curve would save considerable time and a reversal.

May well have to do with pathing - but also either provides an extra service between Oxford and Didcot or is simply running in the path of an existing one.
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2024, 16:34:57 »

My bet is that is running in place of the turbo, to release the other one still in the Saturday timetable. The OXF» (Oxford - next trains)-BAN service could also be run by an IET (Intercity Express Train) if they chose to.

Meanwhile the Didcot call maybe either a) to complete those OXF-DID» (Didcot Parkway - next trains) service calls, and/or b) to wait time somewhere in order to wait a suitable path.

GWR (Great Western Railway) will have between presented with a budget cut for next financial year & this may be one way of finding some of that - by releasing that turbo.
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2024, 16:57:40 »

I'm sure you're right that it's replacing a Turbo service - you wouldn't stop at Appleford otherwise! So the Didcot call supplies connections to/from the Thames Valley local stations.

Interested to see (in the Clarion's second tweet) that GWR (Great Western Railway) are citing "consistent country-end overcrowding experienced on Bristol–London Paddington services".
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2024, 18:47:40 »

Interested to see (in the Clarion's second tweet) that GWR (Great Western Railway) are citing "consistent country-end overcrowding experienced on Bristol–London Paddington services".

Indeed.

When you think about it, hardly a shock. At the start of 2020, plans were for 4 trains an hour from Bristol Temple Meads to London (Paddington).  But that's been cut back to 2.  I know that Bath and Chippenham still only had two an hour to London, but those Pesky Bristol to London people are filling the trains.
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2024, 10:53:23 »

The OXF» (Oxford - next trains)-BAN service could also be run by an IET (Intercity Express Train) if they chose to.

They could…but a TM(resolve) would need to be provided (with the associated route learning cost).
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2024, 15:26:30 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) Press Release
https://news.gwr.com/news/great-western-railway-planning-to-restore-direct-bristol-oxford-services
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Yep, and Tom has sent me an email to let me know.   Really interesting development and I'll be making full local comment later.   This is a flow that I know has very great potential; I used the service in the past so I'm not totally green on it.  But it also needs to work today as sentimentality won't pay for it.
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2024, 16:35:21 »

Only one of those it seems will call at Didcot - the one that states that it does - otherwise the others would too.

So on its own, it won't release a turbo.
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