Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 23:55 10 Dec 2024
 
- Avanti West Coast workers to strike over Christmas
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 tomorrow - Westbury - Meet the Manager
15/12/24 - New Timetable Starts
19/12/24 - MTUG Committee Plus meeting
25/12/24 - Westbury Station Closure

No 'On This Day' events reported for 11th Dec

Train RunningCancelled
23:21 Swindon to Gloucester
23:33 Reading to Gatwick Airport
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
December 11, 2024, 00:12:55 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[126] NOT.......Britannia !!
[75] Closures of loops and through services - on this day, 10th Dec...
[66] Annoying / amusing use of completely irrelevant stock photos t...
[53] Go-Op Cooperative - proposals for additional rail services (me...
[49] Westbury - engineering works from 24th December 2024 for 30 da...
[48] AQ10 - Where are these and what is the connection / Theme?
 
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
Author Topic: Euston: a five point plan  (Read 3224 times)
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 42832



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2024, 13:06:18 »

...  so looking likely to go to Euston.

I still wonder if in a parallel universe it might not have gone into St Pancras where all those Superfast trains from Paris and Brussels could reverse and continue their flight to Solihull with a brief stop at Wormwood Scrubs for connections to Hereford, Fishguard, Paignton and Penzance.
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Acting Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, Option 24/7 Melksham Rep
ChrisB
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 12946


View Profile Email
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2024, 14:32:45 »

With a blank canvas to start with, anything would be possible.

With the St Pancras station hotel, still potentially possible if you were to flatten it.
Logged
ChrisB
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 12946


View Profile Email
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2024, 15:15:17 »

From the Guardian

Quote
Letters - Euston, we have a problem. But HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) can solve it

A new London Euston terminus could be worth the £4.8bn, write David Thrower and Prof Ian Wray. Mike Ferenczi has a plan for private funding, and Francis Bown says let’s rebuild the arch

Nils Pratley is far too pessimistic and negative (Euston is a problem without a good solution, 7 October). The lessons from the HS2 Euston saga are that: 1) as a nation we should decide what we want; 2) we should stick to that plan and get on with it, without incessant changes involving lawyers and circuitous consultations; and 3) ultimately, you get what you pay for.

St Pancras, King’s Cross and Paddington didn’t come cheap in the 19th century. But no one today is going around saying they were bad schemes and they should have settled for a collection of tin shacks. Waterloo in the late 19th century was an utter mess, but the directors of the London and South Western Railway had the courage to visit the US, check out best practice there, and do a total rebuild, though they did compromise by using part of an existing roof (eventually knocked down for Eurostar) for their platforms 16 to 21. Today’s Euston is popularly remembered for the loss of the Euston arch, but the real mistakes were the concrete-slab roof over the platforms (no development above them but no natural light either) and the mean and cramped concourse and hopelessly inadequate London Underground hall. Euston would certainly have to be rebuilt even without HS2, and probably still cost between £1bn and £2bn.

Spending £4.8bn for a new Euston with 10 new HS2 platforms would be pretty much the going rate. And if it is done well, it will be good for another century.
David Thrower
Stockton Heath, Cheshire
Prof Ian Wray
Oxton, Wirral

In the 1980s, I bought shares in Eurotunnel (now Getlink SE, which runs LeShuttle), tempted by the promise of nearly free travel to France for a car and my family. I think I invested £400 at the time, a big chunk of my student savings, and I had a long time to wait as it was only in 1994 that the tunnel opened, and that I could enjoy on return trip every year for €1 each way. I benefited from this perk for 10 years, a much greater benefit and pleasure than gains in the wildly fluctuating share price.

A similar scheme could be used to raise private funding for HS2. Many UK (United Kingdom) residents could be happy to invest in it for the promise of free or cheap and fast travel. Say £1,000 invested to purchase HS2 shares with the perk of one return trip per year for £1 each way, for five years? I would be keen to participate.
Mike Ferenczi
London

The extension of HS2 into Euston would transform an expensive white elephant into a useful part of our rail system (Transport secretary ‘seriously looking at’ extending HS2 rail line to Euston, 9 October). It also presents the opportunity to turn a nightmare of a station into one of which we could be proud. Nothing would mark this more effectively than the rebuilding of the Euston arch, the beautiful Doric propylaeum designed in 1837 by Philip Hardwick. Its unnecessary demolition in the 1960s was an act of wanton vandalism, approved by Harold Macmillan simply to demonstrate his commitment to things modern. But most of its sandstone blocks, located in the East End, are recoverable and in good condition, and the Euston Arch Trust has practical plans for its reconstruction. It could stand as a magnificent symbol of the nation’s pride in the renewal of its railways.
Francis Bown
London


Edit note: ChrisB, I've added just one character at the very beginning of your post, to make your link work. CfN.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2024, 15:55:16 by Chris from Nailsea » Logged
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 42832



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2024, 10:38:41 »

From The Standard

Quote
‘Euston rush’ could be on its way out as early train boarding introduced

Some services at Euston will start boarding 20 minutes before departure to try and tackle overcrowding at the busy station
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Acting Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, Option 24/7 Melksham Rep
GBM
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1665


View Profile Email
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2024, 10:48:41 »


Quote
‘Euston rush’ could be on its way out as early train boarding introduced

Some services at Euston will start boarding 20 minutes before departure to try and tackle overcrowding at the busy station

Surely that has to be common sense?
The earlier the better at all termini. 
Logged

Personal opinion only.  Writings not representative of any union, collective, management or employer. (Think that absolves me...........)
ChrisB
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 12946


View Profile Email
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2024, 17:07:29 »

If it's that simple, why has it not been implemented many moons ago? Huh Roll Eyes
Logged
Timmer
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 6532


View Profile
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2024, 17:45:48 »

If it's that simple, why has it not been implemented many moons ago? Huh Roll Eyes
Operational convenience?
Logged
Fourbee
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 700


View Profile
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2024, 11:32:01 »

I was trying to think of reasons why and thought you could probably get away with fewer staff checking tickets and turnaround cleaners with the current scrum. Set swaps can be last minute without turfing everyone off (though of course that still happens). Can't think of anything else.

In Virgin days they used to text you the platform number before it appeared on the departure board if you'd booked through them.
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link to report). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page