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« Reply #360 on: November 14, 2014, 09:43:51 »

So a station closed, trains delayed and cancelled and it's still only November.

Network Rail seem very bullish about the situation, so I hope for their sakes they don't repeat their "the seawall is good for another 25 years" clanger a few short months prior to the collapse. Strange how that was quickly forgotten...


Mother nature generally doesn't run to a timetable, [insert LTV (London [and] Thames Valley) timetable joke/grumble here]... The fact is the line has been continually open to traffic.  Minor delays due to the rail conditions yes, but the only cancellations are down to voyagers being rubbish, which is not NR» (Network Rail - home page)'s problem (unless one gets stuck!)

Short of building a fortress around Dawlish station, there is nothing NR can do to stop waves crashing over and making it temporarily dangerous to the public to keep open.
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« Reply #361 on: November 14, 2014, 10:13:48 »

Going off on a slight tangent, there's a video on the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-30040238 showing the spray/waves at a height above the train in the pictures, with a person apparently riding a bike along the footpath! Brave or foolish, you decide!

And if that tw*t got washed into the sea, they'd expect the lifeboat men to put their lives at risk. Something they ought to be forced to pay for if needed (as it was obvious what a likely outcome was)
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« Reply #362 on: November 14, 2014, 15:43:37 »

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So a station closed, trains delayed and cancelled and it's still only November.

Network Rail seem very bullish about the situation, so I hope for their sakes they don't repeat their "the seawall is good for another 25 years" clanger a few short months prior to the collapse. Strange how that was quickly forgotten...

Please don't exaggerate the issue. I commuted both ways yesterday. It was windy, sure, and a fair amount of water was flying all over the place, but it all added up to a whopping three minute delay in either direction.

If you want things to be better for XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)), then perhaps you should encourage 'em to use their HST (High Speed Train)'s down here in the winter, seeing as the Voyagers are doing a damn good impression of having aquagenic pruritis.
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« Reply #363 on: November 14, 2014, 18:02:49 »

If you want things to be better for XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)), then perhaps you should encourage 'em to use their HST (High Speed Train)'s down here in the winter, seeing as the Voyagers are doing a damn good impression of having aquagenic pruritis.

One of the scheduled HSTs was also caped at Exeter yesterday, then started back north from there. I agree that they should have more than two HST sets out, but it's difficult for CrossCountry to have sufficient advance notice of adverse weather to have the other sets primed and ready. They are stabled at Leeds.
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« Reply #364 on: November 15, 2014, 14:35:14 »

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So a station closed, trains delayed and cancelled and it's still only November.

Network Rail seem very bullish about the situation, so I hope for their sakes they don't repeat their "the seawall is good for another 25 years" clanger a few short months prior to the collapse. Strange how that was quickly forgotten...

Please don't exaggerate the issue. I commuted both ways yesterday. It was windy, sure, and a fair amount of water was flying all over the place, but it all added up to a whopping three minute delay in either direction.

If you want things to be better for XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)), then perhaps you should encourage 'em to use their HST (High Speed Train)'s down here in the winter, seeing as the Voyagers are doing a damn good impression of having aquagenic pruritis.

How is stating the fact that Dawlish Station had to close and XC services curtailed "exaggerating" the facts?
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« Reply #365 on: December 03, 2014, 08:53:51 »

Might the re-opening be a little nearer (or will it be a lot of talk only...)?
 
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Quote from today's Government National Infrastructure Plan - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/381884/2902895_NationalInfrastructurePlan2014_acc.pdf
 
Dawlish rail services ^ the government will support Network Rail in its work to improve the resilience of the railway at Dawlish. Additionally, it will ask Network Rail to examine wider issues surrounding connectivity to and within the South West peninsula. Specifically, Network Rail will consider alternatives to the current mainline route to the South West via Dawlish, including an alternative route via the north side of Dartmoor through Okehampton. This work will feed into Network Rail^s Initial Industry Plan for Control Period 6 (2019-2024)
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« Reply #366 on: December 03, 2014, 09:41:10 »

We'll just have to wait and see,i suppose. Disappointing to see the words "feasibility study", much rather have seen the colour of some money, as is apparently being provided for the A303 upgrade. Plenty of feasibility studies in the past have ended up as dust gatherers in departmental archive stores but maybe that's just the gnarled old cynic in me coming to the fore. Certainly it would seem as if the Okehampton route is in pole position now compared to the other options, which was always the favoured way to go for me but there is this nagging feeling inside me that in 10 years time there will be a new thread starting on here-"Suggestions for an alternative Dawlish line"! Grin Hopefully i'm wrong though.
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« Reply #367 on: December 03, 2014, 10:33:40 »

All depends on what the detailed study throws up in the way of a Business case....If Okehampton really is too pricey, my thinking is that they'll do further studies to get best value from one of the 5 options
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« Reply #368 on: December 03, 2014, 17:31:28 »

... in 10 years time there will be a new thread starting on here-"Suggestions for an alternative Dawlish line"! Grin Hopefully i'm wrong though.

Indeed: if there is, I shall simply merge it with this existing one.  Wink Cheesy Grin
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« Reply #369 on: December 03, 2014, 18:43:21 »

I  think this thread will still be going strong in 10 years time.
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« Reply #370 on: December 03, 2014, 18:52:41 »

I  think this thread will still be going strong in 10 years time.

But will this forum??
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« Reply #371 on: December 03, 2014, 19:43:07 »

In addition to the promised "study", I hope we'll see some tangible evidence concerning  the viability of a second route to Plymouth north of Dartmoor based on regular services between Okehampton & Exeter, and Tavistock & Plymouth. If these local services prove to be a success, it would strengthen the argument for reinstating the missing link.
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« Reply #372 on: December 04, 2014, 08:28:01 »

It isn't just the Okehampton route that needs looking at. I seem to remember a cross party report going to the government regarding upgrading the alternative route to Exeter via Castle Cary & Honiton. I naively thought there might have been some mention of that in the Chancellor's statement.
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« Reply #373 on: December 04, 2014, 09:34:01 »

The money is going to the A303 rather than double tracking from Castle Cary throughout to Pinhoe.
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« Reply #374 on: December 04, 2014, 15:43:59 »

As a motorist I cannot deny the A303 sorely needs upgrading, but the rail route via Honiton does too. Maybe one day someone will provide some relief. In the meanwhile let us hope the Network Rail solution at Cowley Bridge means no more flooding of the main line to Taunton
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