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« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2008, 16:50:17 »

Just for info, the 07.51 Paddington to Great Malvern and 11.06 return has been operated most of the week by a seven-car, non-buffet HST (High Speed Train), with trolley service.

Reasonably punctual westbound, though that probably has more to do with scanty passenger numbers towards Worcester at this time of the day than any reduction in train weight.

Whatr sort of service do first class get?

Or are we expected to wander to Carriage A to hunt down the trolley

Not something that is acceptable

No, First Class get their own trolley, so you don't need to wander into 'scum' class  Roll Eyes

Except at weekends apparently
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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2008, 22:08:40 »

Apparently there was a 2+7 trial set going around the other day.
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« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2008, 17:29:04 »

Passengers prefer the trolleys, according to FGW (First Great Western) (link below.)
http://thisisbristol.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=145365&command=displayContent&sourceNode=145191&contentPK=19590089&folderPk=83726&pNodeId=144922
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« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2008, 17:49:45 »

Personally, so was I.

Was very impressed with the trolley on SWT (South West Trains) coming to my seat before reaching Honiton from Exeter. If a train is busy, I dont want to leave my bags/seat as i often travel on my own.
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« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2008, 14:28:14 »

Some East Coast sets also had back to back buffets.

Formed: TF, TF, TRFB (Trailer Restaurant First Buffet (Mark 3 coach type)), TRFB, TS, TS, TS, TS, TS





I've never seen a photograph of East Coast HST (High Speed Train) with Back to Back Buffets, yes there was were 2 catering cars one Restuarant Buffet in First class end and a Buffet in the Second Class section, think each Catering car was 3rd vehicle from Power car.
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« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2008, 16:32:42 »

I wonder what sort of question they asked to get the feedback. I bet they asked everyone who had just been served at their seat "Do you appreciate the opportunity to be served at your seat?" and of course the answer is "yes".

A better survey would be to survey the whole train and ask whether they preferred a trolley which comes to their seat once or twice in the journey, and serves a limited selection of drinks and nibbles, or a buffet car that they can visit anytime during the journey and which offers a wider selection of hot and cold food.

But of course they wouldn't ask that as it wouldn't give them the asnwer they wanted.

Anyone from FGW (First Great Western) know how this survey was carried out?
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« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2008, 16:49:11 »

Based on the train I was on today.. 14:47 Paddington - Great Malvern the survey I believe was being done by an external company. Didn't get a look at the form unfortunately so couldn't tell you what questions being asked.
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« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2008, 18:54:34 »

Sorry to dig this up again, but what is the score on buffet cars?

Have FGW (First Great Western) and XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) given up on this stupid idea yet?
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« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2008, 19:54:22 »

One word: No.

FGW (First Great Western) have it on some services, XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) are running a trolley on their Summer HSTs (High Speed Train).

Trials are 'on-going', no idea on the expected date for decisions, as i'm not that high up the food chain  Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2008, 19:54:41 »

Don't know but the remaining unrefurbed ones are being dynamic lined, preumably so they don't stick out like a sore thumb.  There was an interview with Charles Howson(?) recently on Spotlight (at the launch of the revamped Night Riveria) where he said the new management were now listening to what customers want. So, over to you Charles.....
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« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2008, 21:08:26 »

Mass removal of buffet cars is dead in the water, problem is that FGW (First Great Western) don't have enough buffet cars for all it's HST (High Speed Train)'s at present. So there should be a maximum of 3 HST's out each day without them. Further problem is the buffet cars numbered 409xx are worse than useless and aren't suitable for restaurant / chef services.
You spend ^ on refurbishing your HST fleet, stripping the coaches to a shell and rebuilding them, but you still kit the buffet car out to 3 different specs, 407xx, 402xx & 408xx
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« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2008, 21:12:23 »

FGW (First Great Western) have 53 buffet cars i believe.
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« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2008, 00:07:13 »

Mass removal of buffet cars is dead in the water,

Brainwashed!!
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« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2008, 00:16:01 »

Mass removal of buffet cars is dead in the water,

Brainwashed!!

How do you think it will end up, oooooo?
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« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2018, 17:53:53 »

Mass removal of buffet cars is dead in the water,

Brainwashed!!

How do you think it will end up, oooooo?

And ten years later they are gone, stupid idea.
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