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« Reply #945 on: July 22, 2014, 14:02:24 »

Oxford to Banbury and Reading to Basingstoke are being wired up as part of the bigger "Electric Spine" project which will see electrification of Bedford to Nottingham, Banbury to Nuneaton and the East West line from Oxford to Bedford, as well as the eventual conversion of Basingstoke to Southampton from DC (Direct Current) to AC.
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« Reply #946 on: July 22, 2014, 14:22:02 »

Oxford-Banbury electrification is part of the freight spine work, not the GW (Great Western) electrification, and thus subject to a different timescale.

A turbo will service the FGW (First Great Western) OXF» (Oxford - next trains)-BAN trains until such time as the electrification to BAN is complete - then there's talk of starting OXF IEPs (Intercity Express Program / Project.) back from there, certainly in the peaks. IT should mean no OXF starters/terminators in the peaks, and thus improve punctuality through Oxford going forward....

....and ease the services through the station when the redevelopment takes place, and not all platforms are available
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« Reply #947 on: July 22, 2014, 14:49:25 »

Thanks but I know all about the 'electric spine' aspects of electrification - but going by the latest update to the CP enhancements (Jun 14) the dates for the sections to Oxford Banbury and Basingstoke are still to be decided - and with much of the rest of the electric spine work due to finish beyond 2019, is there any firm evidence that these two are going to be done by 2019 (end of CP5 (Control Period 5 - the five year period between 2014 and 2019))?

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« Reply #948 on: July 22, 2014, 15:15:26 »

Those sections, I thought, are part of the GW (Great Western) scheme? Oxford *must* be as IEPs (Intercity Express Program / Project.) are due to start running to Newbury & Oxford by 2017(? - but certainly the first to use IEPs, and within CP5 (Control Period 5 - the five year period between 2014 and 2019)).

The Spine I thought was following the completion of the current plans for GW electrification, so could well be outside CP5.
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« Reply #949 on: July 22, 2014, 15:53:37 »

Those sections, I thought, are part of the GW (Great Western) scheme?

My typo sorry, I meant Oxford to Banbury, rather than Oxford itself...

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« Reply #950 on: July 22, 2014, 20:59:32 »

A turbo will service the FGW (First Great Western) OXF» (Oxford - next trains)-BAN trains until such time as the electrification to BAN is complete - then there's talk of starting OXF IEPs (Intercity Express Program / Project.) back from there, certainly in the peaks.
How would Oxford's hourly IEP service start back from Banbury? It is currently advertised as starting back from Worcester/Hereford. If there's going to be more than one IEP per hour to Oxford, where are the additional IEP units coming from?
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« Reply #951 on: July 22, 2014, 22:38:47 »

If there's going to be more than one IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project.) per hour to Oxford, where are the additional IEP units coming from?

The DfT» (Department for Transport - about)'s fantasy diagram section.
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« Reply #952 on: July 23, 2014, 09:27:15 »

My bad - I was chucking the 319s (or whatever) in the same overall 'IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project.)' programme for ease of writing. It's likely to be these rather than actual IEP that start back from BAN.
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« Reply #953 on: August 13, 2014, 09:33:34 »

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) South Today's report on the work of the HOPS train on the GWML (Great Western Main Line) has just been posted on the BBC News website:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28766197
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« Reply #954 on: August 13, 2014, 10:36:36 »

And Paul Clifton tweeted a photo of the cameraman getting extremely wet....

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« Reply #955 on: August 13, 2014, 10:47:25 »

Would it would be too much to expect the dates to be right though?   
Parkway to Cardiff by Dec 2017, and Cardiff to Swansea by Dec 2018 is the latest published timeline.

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« Reply #956 on: August 13, 2014, 19:40:15 »

Would it would be too much to expect the dates to be right though?   
Parkway to Cardiff by Dec 2017, and Cardiff to Swansea by Dec 2018 is the latest published timeline.

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I would say they will not be too far out with electrification on new route gets going it is quite quick, the line possessions already booked, surveying and trial holes ongoing so providing the factory train does what says on the can then yes, this train is only for plain line complex areas will be done with conventional RRVs (Road Rail Vehicle).
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« Reply #957 on: August 14, 2014, 10:29:33 »

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) South Today's report on the work of the HOPS train on the GWML (Great Western Main Line) has just been posted on the BBC News website:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28766197

I notice NR» (Network Rail - home page) are saying that this marks the *start* of the electrification....when *we* know otherwise that piling has been taking place for a while now. Of course, all the pro mags & websites take this as gospel, without checking. Even one who marked the first pile going in....
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« Reply #958 on: August 19, 2014, 16:12:51 »

Passing North Pole just now (the depot not the compass point) and I notice that a whole raft of Hitachi branding has appeared over the front doors and along the side of the shed...
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« Reply #959 on: August 25, 2014, 14:38:29 »

......and apparently there is a new logo to cover the GWML (Great Western Main Line) electrification work that looks very familiar (wonder how much they payed a consultant to come up with that idea Roll Eyes Roll Eyes): http://www.furrerfrey.ch/en/furrerfrey/news-overview/2014/q3/GWE.html
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