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« on: June 09, 2021, 10:55:23 am »

I am not about to set it up ... but there are times I wonder if we should have a special area for level crossings!  These are all out-of-area stories but have the ring of being learning opportunities for us

https://www.globalrailwayreview.com/article/124670/danger-photography-level-crossings/

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A deadly shot: The danger of photography at level crossings

Megan Drayton, Foundation Manager of TrackSAFE Foundation New Zealand, discusses how the increasing popularity of rail tracks and level crossings as a fashionable backdrop in the age of modern photography, creative media and even selfies is seeing lives put at risk.

https://www.sussexlive.co.uk/news/sussex-news/shocking-cctv-shows-girl-lying-5504252

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Shocking CCTV (Closed Circuit Tele Vision) shows girl lying in middle of railway tracks at Horsham level crossing

A shocking picture showing a girl lying in the middle of a railway line where trains hurtle past at 85mph has been released as Network Rail appealed to children to keep away from the tracks.

The teenager appears to be casually using her mobile phone while another girl stands next to her, despite the incredible dangers.

https://www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/19355598.inaudible-train-horn-closes-cononley-crossing/

Story - the IET (Intercity Express Train) that passes at 06:19 and 06:59 ...

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‘Inaudible’ train horn closes Cononley crossing

THE closure of a well-used pedestrian rail crossing in Cononley has been extended to over a year, because there’s a slim chance people using it might not hear the horn of one early-morning train per day, a resident has said.

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2021, 06:47:06 pm »

Why is this only considered to be a problem with IETs (Intercity Express Train) ? Surely the horns on these trains comply with all the relevant standards ?

If the horns are NOT compliant, then they should be rectified. (if the department for transport specified the wrong horns, then whoever made the decision should resign. If Hitachi fitted horns that do not comply with specifications then they should rectify this at their expense.)

If, as I suspect to be more likely, the horns are in fact compliant then the crossing should be opened forthwith.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2021, 09:32:47 pm »

Why is this only considered to be a problem with IETs (Intercity Express Train) ? Surely the horns on these trains comply with all the relevant standards ?

If the horns are NOT compliant, then they should be rectified. (if the department for transport specified the wrong horns, then whoever made the decision should resign. If Hitachi fitted horns that do not comply with specifications then they should rectify this at their expense.)

If, as I suspect to be more likely, the horns are in fact compliant then the crossing should be opened forthwith.

For perfectly understandable reasons, Network Rail (as a rail infrastructure and safety provider) don't like level crossings and want to reduce or eliminate them where possible.  However, there's sometimes a feeling that they will look for any excuse / try it on and see what they can do to remove a crossing without taking an honest, measured, properly consulted and impartial consideration of the uses and requirements of the none-rail user of the crossings.   This is just one story in this thread - I recall Deganwy, Tal-y-Cafn, Angelstein Wharf, Westbury avoider and others where I would question their impartiality, and so many others where people have lost their lives - between Trowbridge and Westbury, and between Kemble and Stroud just locally to me.



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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2021, 10:05:45 pm »

Network Rail...honest, measured, properly consulted and impartial consideration...

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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2021, 02:53:06 pm »

Perhaps all level crossings on routes served by IETs (Intercity Express Train) should be closed ?
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2021, 05:04:11 pm »

The article makes no mention of IETs (Intercity Express Train) which don’t operate over that crossing.  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2021, 06:03:19 pm »

The article makes no mention of IETs (Intercity Express Train) which don’t operate over that crossing.  Wink

Correct - it's an Azuma (Brand name for Class 80x trains on LNER)

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It transpired the reason for the closure was because the horn signal on the Azuma 800 train, which is used on the Skipton to London Kings Cross service, was deemed inaudible from the crossing. This particular train only passes the Cononley crossing twice each day, both times early in the morning.

It comes out from the depot in Leeds to pick up passengers at Skipton for the 6-56 am Skipton-Kings Cross service, passing through Cononley on its way to Skipton and again shortly after on its way back to Leeds. But because people using the Cononley pedestrian crossing might not hear the horn on this one early morning train, the popular crossing was fenced off.

The alternative route for pedestrians involves walking up Crosshills Road into the village and turning right onto the footpath running past the cricket club. Although the distance to reach the railway station is about the same, this route has two fairly steep inclines, limited visibility, no pavements for most of it length and a history of problems with speeding traffic.

My apologies for introducing the red green herring - I did that amateur jorno thing of calling all class 800 trains by their local name!
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