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« Reply #1065 on: October 15, 2020, 12:08:17 pm »

Latest six monthly report to Parliament detailed here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/hs2-6-monthly-report-to-parliament

It explains where the ?0.8bn cost pressures have arisen and where the money will be coming from if it's needed, which is out of the ?5.3bn contingency fund which is part of the overall Phase 1 funding envelope of ?44.6bn.  There is a second contingency pot of ?4.3bn within that funding envelope which is held by government, so it will be interesting to see if that (or more than that) is eventually needed.
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« Reply #1066 on: October 15, 2020, 12:59:07 pm »

Latest six monthly report to Parliament detailed here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/hs2-6-monthly-report-to-parliament

It explains where the ?0.8bn cost pressures have arisen and where the money will be coming from if it's needed, which is out of the ?5.3bn contingency fund which is part of the overall Phase 1 funding envelope of ?44.6bn.  There is a second contingency pot of ?4.3bn within that funding envelope which is held by government, so it will be interesting to see if that (or more than that) is eventually needed.

Having read that statement carefully (more than once) - it's not quite that bad! The HS2 contingency of 5.3bn is part of their target cost of 40.3bn, so they are saying 0.8bn of that has been allocated to specific costs or estimates. (Total spend has reached 27% of the forecast cost.) The DfT contingency of 4.3bn brings that up to the funding envelope of 44.6bn.

On the other hand (there had to be another hand, obviously), cost increases (including the cost implications of delays) are not included in any of those figures (except, presumably, if they are actual costs already incurred). I know modern construction uses a lot of machines and surprisingly few people, bet even so Covid is bound to add to the bills.
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« Reply #1067 on: October 15, 2020, 06:09:12 pm »

Ching Ching!

I doubt they'll use bells on HS2 - I expect the announcements will be automated.

Let's hope they remembered to include announcements in the budget.
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« Reply #1068 on: October 15, 2020, 09:11:49 pm »

In other matters, it seems that rare bats have been detected (or at least sensed) in some of the trees that are to be felled to make way for HS2. The HS2 response has been (and I paraphrase) "What - the same trees that the drum-beating environmentalists camped out in for weeks? They'll have frightened the bats away for sure, but could we see their environmental impact studies, the ones they made before they climbed the (insert favourite expletive) trees, please?"
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« Reply #1069 on: October 16, 2020, 07:03:57 am »

In other matters, it seems that rare bats have been detected (or at least sensed) in some of the trees that are to be felled to make way for HS2. The HS2 response has been (and I paraphrase) "What - the same trees that the drum-beating environmentalists camped out in for weeks? They'll have frightened the bats away for sure, but could we see their environmental impact studies, the ones they made before they climbed the (insert favourite expletive) trees, please?"

The rather obvious difference being of course, is that when the environmentalists leave, the trees stay, unlike when the HS2 gang turn up with their chainsaws.

Do keep beating your drum though  Wink
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« Reply #1070 on: October 16, 2020, 11:06:01 am »

To be fair, TG, I think more than one of us could be accused of beating a drum on this thread.
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« Reply #1071 on: October 16, 2020, 01:09:15 pm »

To be fair, TG, I think more than one of us could be accused of beating a drum on this thread.

Touch?!

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« Reply #1072 on: October 16, 2020, 05:02:58 pm »

To be fair, TG, I think more than one of us could be accused of beating a drum on this thread.

Get us all together and we could form a fine marching band, but ahhhh, what do the audience think?

https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/hs2/public-support-for-hs2-is-falling-will-protests-rise-08-09-2020/
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« Reply #1073 on: October 16, 2020, 07:51:03 pm »


Touch?!

grahame, the fonts won't cope with French stuff.
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« Reply #1074 on: October 16, 2020, 09:58:28 pm »

At le4st the???s no i%%use wit)h the En?lish.  Wink
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« Reply #1075 on: October 17, 2020, 08:29:30 am »

At le4st the???s no i%%use wit)h the En?lish.  Wink
Brilliant, II  Grin Grin
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« Reply #1076 on: October 18, 2020, 02:01:51 pm »

At le4st the???s no i%%use wit)h the En?lish.  Wink

Touch?! (D'oh!)
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« Reply #1077 on: October 20, 2020, 08:42:08 am »

At le4st the???s no i%%use wit)h the En?lish.  Wink

You might say that, but we will have to use dollars for price increases in future. We can type $, but not ?.

Nigel will be furious. Well, more furious.
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« Reply #1078 on: October 20, 2020, 10:55:03 am »


Nigel will be furious. Well, more furious.

Another excuse to be shown with a pint in his hand (or 0.5L?)!
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« Reply #1079 on: October 24, 2020, 08:12:06 am »

Strike up the band!  Smiley

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54628840?dm_i=6DCF,3M6A,1EJ6GJ,EM1F,
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