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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2012, 09:38:39 » |
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"Stations in Stoke Canon, Silverton, Hele and Bradninch, Cullompton, Tiverton Junction, Sampford Peverell and Burlescombe closed after Dr Richard Beeching, as chairman of the British Transport Commission, drew up a report stating that British Rail was losing ^140m a year in 1963."
Tivvy Junction remained open, right up - I believe - until Parkway was built. It was certainly open in the late 70's as I caught a train from there with my school.
However, the service was spasmodic at best, no doubt a classic case of BR▸ attempting closure by stealth?
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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2012, 09:49:01 » |
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"Stations in Stoke Canon, Silverton, Hele and Bradninch, Cullompton, Tiverton Junction, Sampford Peverell and Burlescombe closed after Dr Richard Beeching, as chairman of the British Transport Commission, drew up a report stating that British Rail was losing ^140m a year in 1963."
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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2012, 10:06:31 » |
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You are right Umberleigh. Tiverton Junction closed on 11th May 1986, with Parkway opening the following day.
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- Sir Terry Pratchett.
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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2012, 11:30:04 » |
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Another thing about most of those intermediate stations was that a lot were 4 track with platforms loops thus considerably increasing line capacity. Lets hope if they reopen and Cullumpton and Wellington they will be 4 track, but I can't see it myself we aren't that far sighted like the Victorians. It would also be considered too expensive!
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Andrew1939 from West Oxon
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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2012, 17:10:14 » |
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Ah! But is Devon C.C.prepared to pay for its new Cullumpton station?
People will call for all sort of uneconomic improvements if they do not have to pay for it.
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Tim
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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2012, 21:32:59 » |
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what is the signalling situation in the area? The council might be able to scrape together the cash for a car park, platform and a couple of "bus shelters", Likewise FGW▸ or the local house builders might be willing to contribute a bit but if new track or signalling is needed they probably can't afford it, unless there is a renewal in the area due anyway.
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« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2012, 13:45:35 » |
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and which services would stop at these stations? there are very few local trains between Exeter and Taunton and the time penalty for stopping HST▸ 's and Voyagers would be quite high due to the high (100MPH) line speed, more units would need to be pulled out of a hat and would need to be 90MPH units to avoid slowing down everything else.
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« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2012, 13:52:10 » |
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Let's get real here.There is no chance that FGW▸ will make additional stops between Exeter and Taunton. Wellington is not that far from Taunton and if the bus setrvice to TVP from Cullumpton is no good then surely a more relaistic solution is to get a regular bus to run there??
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TonyK
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« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2012, 20:21:04 » |
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The bus service from TVP to anywhere is pretty rubbish, tbh. Unless you want to get to Exeter, in which case there's an hourly service. Useful if your final destination is one of the intermediate villages. It means there are huge swathes of North Devon inaccessible by rail, but we already knew that.
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« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2012, 21:42:41 » |
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Well if there was a fast Train Between Taunton and Exeter, a local service, which stopped at Wellington, Tiverton and Cullumpton.
Maybe this service could start from Okehampton to Exeter St David's and then to Taunton and return back to Okehampton via Exeter ST David.
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2012, 22:17:53 » |
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From thisisthewestcountry: Cullompton could get new railway stationA new railway station for Cullompton could become reality after the county and district councils backed calls for improved public transport links. With reductions in the number of buses serving Cullompton via Exeter and Taunton, along with a possible reduction in both the main line and Tarka▸ Line train services, concern has been steadily rising over the town^s accessibility. Now Devon County Council has expressed an interest in bringing a train station back to Cullompton half a century after the old one closed.  Cullompton motorway services, the site of the former train station In a letter to town and district councillor Nikki Woolatt, county council cabinet member for highways and transportation Cllr Stuart Hughes said: ^While it is possible in layout terms to provide a station for Cullompton there is currently no train service which would call there. However, in responding to the Department for Transport^s consultation on the new Great Western Rail Franchise to start in 2013, we made the case for an hourly stopping service between Exeter and Taunton. If this could be achieved at some time within the new franchise it would pave the way for a station to be added at Cullompton.^ Mid Devon District Council is backing the idea and says it would welcome the development of platforms on allocated land at junction 28, roughly where the previous station stood before falling victim to British Rail network cuts in the 1960s. The calls have been partly inspired by rising fuel prices and Cullompton^s expanding population, which currently stands at 23,989 ^ a figure the county council did not expect would be reached until 2016. District council leader Cllr Peter Hare-Scott said: ^We^re experiencing an economic climate where motoring prices are rising beyond reach for some in rural communities. In addition, our dependency on oil and climate change concerns must be taken into account. It^s important that public transport is made available for the needs of our residents.^ |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2012, 08:42:50 » |
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"District council leader Cllr Peter Hare-Scott said: ^We^re experiencing an economic climate where motoring prices are rising beyond reach for some in rural communities. In addition, our dependency on oil and climate change concerns must be taken into account. It^s important that public transport is made available for the needs of our residents.^"
Whilst I agree entirely with the good councillor unfortunately for a long time to come the chances of getting a station for Cullumpton is remote, I am afraid it's going to have to be buses to TVP.
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« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2012, 12:51:11 » |
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Are both lines threw cullompton bi-directional?
No is the short answer. Up and Down only and not Bi-Di |
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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2012, 19:22:21 » |
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I would expect if they ever did they would have to create loops at the station concerned. Wellington, Tiverton and Cullompton. Figure 1 Current train service level (trains per hour) Main line services Trains per hour Bristol Temple Meads ^ London Paddington 2 Plymouth ^ London Paddington 1 (9 trains per day from Penzance) www.networkrail.co.uk/RoutePlans/PDF/RouteK-WestofEngland.pdfGuy |
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