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Author Topic: Great Western Railway: on-board catering, buffets, Travelling Chef, Pullman - ongoing discussion  (Read 530103 times)
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« Reply #1650 on: September 10, 2021, 07:03:44 pm »

LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) also offer food & drink delivery to Standard class. Nothing from GWR (Great Western Railway) yet that I’ve seen. Possibky difficult with 5car sets when run as 10cars as would need 2 additional staff

It was definitely at the advanced planning stage, see post #1576, but I’ve not heard anything recently.
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« Reply #1651 on: September 10, 2021, 09:31:48 pm »

Just as a postscript.  I’m glad I wasn’t in the evening Pullman from Plymouth tonight.  It’s running almost three hours late because of the points failure at Keyham. 
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« Reply #1652 on: September 11, 2021, 08:35:28 am »

Good to see the 9-cars being used on some of the Pullmans now - better for passengers than a 2x5-car and a slightly bigger kitchen for the staff as well.

When the IETs (Intercity Express Train) were being introduced, I stated that a pair of 5 car units were not suitable for Pullman dining for various reasons, and at the time IET supporters said that 9 car units would "presumably be used" for Pullman services and suggested that my talk of 5 car units was unduly negative.

Then 5 car units became the norm, due it was reported to Penzance depot being unable to accept full length trains.

Yet now we ARE getting 9 cars to Cornwall. A belated positive move, but what has changed ?
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1653 on: September 11, 2021, 09:19:15 am »

Whether it is the main reason for the change I don't know but GWR (Great Western Railway) did state there had been some time-keeping issues with coupling and splitting at Plymouth.  We have also seen reports of high passenger numbers so additional capacity would be sensible.
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