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« Reply #165 on: July 22, 2012, 13:52:12 »

I did hold out til 12 noon and then had two!

Still no sign of Plymouth Gin in the buffet, only the Pullman.

Still luckily my work schedule means four planned trips on the Pullman in the next month - including the 19:03 which I've never travelled on before.
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« Reply #166 on: July 29, 2012, 21:00:31 »

I was pricing up some Pullman journeys today and noticed this on the menu:
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The Great Westerner - our signature cocktail made with Plymouth Gin, apple and ginger cordial and a twist of lime     ^6.00
Is this something new?  Don't remember seeing it previously.
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« Reply #167 on: July 29, 2012, 21:23:00 »

I think it has been on the menu for about a year but I've never tried it nor seen any one else order it.  I'm on the Pullman in a week's time I might just take the plunge....
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« Reply #168 on: July 29, 2012, 21:38:03 »

Been on the menu for about a year now. Very nice it is too!

Although I stress to add I've not purchased one on The Pullman, rather, I've knocked some up at home after asking a Pullman host about the recipe. I didn't write it down or see one being prepared but they used Belvoir Ginger Cordial if I remember correctly and a good quality apple juice. Belvior Cordials are a bit pricey mind. You'll find them in Waitrose. Oh, and I used Bombay Sapphire Gin.

My recipe was:

  • 2 parts gin (50ml)
  • 3 parts Copella Apple Juice (75ml)
  • ^ part Belvoir Ginger Cordial (12.5ml)
  • 2 dashes Angostura Bitters
  • Squeeze of lime juice

Put all the ingredients into a cocktail shaker with plenty of ice and shake until condensation forms on the outside of the shaker. Add plenty of ice to a tall glass (Collins or highball) and strain mixture into glass. Garnish with a wedge and twist of lime.

That's how I did mine. FGW (First Great Western)'s may be different.

Sl^inte mhath!

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« Reply #169 on: July 29, 2012, 21:47:49 »

Sounds good  Tongue
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« Reply #170 on: July 30, 2012, 08:50:08 »

I dont much like any food or drink that contains ginger.
I have however observed the cocktail served and enjoyed on a number of recent trips.
And hopefully it means that Plymouth gin will continue to be available.

If anyone wants to look back through this long topic, there is a post by me that refers to the then new great westerner cocktail.

Edit to add, see post 87.
I posted that shortly after the cocktail was introduced.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #171 on: September 03, 2012, 16:58:42 »

Recently returned from the West on the 12-05 from Plymouth, most enjoyable meal on board.
The menu is more restriced than in years gone by, but still most enjoyable.
AND we have proper (Plymouth) gin, and port also, to go with the cheese.

If any FGW (First Great Western) catering staff are members here, thanks for your hard work and help.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #172 on: September 03, 2012, 18:07:13 »

Recently returned from the West on the 12-05 from Plymouth, most enjoyable meal on board.

Glad you enjoyed it.  How many others were making use of the restaurant?  Obviously the main trade is on the return service in the evening, but it'd be interesting to know how well the crew balancing service eastwards is used.
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« Reply #173 on: September 03, 2012, 18:20:41 »

I have travelled on the 12:55 ex-Plymouth three times in the last month and in each case there have been at least nine diners and in one case 13.  I did report on this thread a while back an occasion when there were 17.

I suspect the crews on the 12:55 are celebrating this week as the 12:55 reverts to starting from Plymouth rather than being a through service from Penzance.  It means they can complete most of the laying-up before the service leaves Plymouth rather than having to do it on the move as they do with the earlier service which starts at Penzance at 10:00.
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« Reply #174 on: September 04, 2012, 08:51:01 »

Recently returned from the West on the 12-05 from Plymouth, most enjoyable meal on board.

Glad you enjoyed it.  How many others were making use of the restaurant?  Obviously the main trade is on the return service in the evening, but it'd be interesting to know how well the crew balancing service eastwards is used.

AFAIR 14 seats were taken out of a maximum available of 19 seats.
This was a little busier than normal, 10 or 12 seats taken seems to be about the average.

The train was busier than usual and slightly late. I suspect that the slight lateness was due to extended station dwell times as passengers tried to board with outsize baby cariages and luggage.

I think that we waited for at least 3 minutes at Taunton, presumably for this reason.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #175 on: September 04, 2012, 09:37:23 »

I have travelled on the 12:55 ex-Plymouth three times in the last month and in each case there have been at least nine diners and in one case 13.  I did report on this thread a while back an occasion when there were 17.

AFAIR 14 seats were taken out of a maximum available of 19 seats.
This was a little busier than normal, 10 or 12 seats taken seems to be about the average.

That's not bad at all.
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« Reply #176 on: September 04, 2012, 09:42:04 »

On a couple of occasions they have had to ask for extra supplies to be put on the 15:00 from Plymouth to ensure they have enough for the return trip following heavy demand for some menu items on the 12:55.
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« Reply #177 on: September 17, 2012, 19:22:03 »

Was on the 12:55 ex Plymouth today and came across a new seating arrangement in Coach F for the first time on a Pullman.  Seems there is a group of three seats on one side nearest the buffet and the single seat (normally number 7) is replaced by a double seat round a table making a total of at least 21 seats - might even be 23 - can't remember what was opposite the bay of three.

The only down side apparently is it makes the kitchen (even) smaller.  Crews call it the wendy house apparently.

I suspect it has been around for a while - just not seen it on a Pullman diagram before.
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« Reply #178 on: September 17, 2012, 21:02:11 »

Plenty of those vehicles around, one of the numerous different types of buffet vehicles there are. They aren't meant to be put on Pullman services though, because the kitchen is smaller.
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« Reply #179 on: September 18, 2012, 08:56:51 »

Yes, they are not recently modified, but have been like that for years or maybe since new ?
Not meant to be on Pullmans, and yes they are known as "wendy houses" by the crew !

Properly known AFAIK (as far as I know) as a TRUB (trailer, restaurant, unclassified, buffet) (trailer, restaurant, unclassified, buffet)
Rather than as a TRUK (trailer, restaurant, unclassified, kitchen) (trailer, restaurant, unclassified, kitchen)

The crew are to be commended for doing what they could with the inadeqaute facilities, rather than cancelling the service.
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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