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Author Topic: Great Western Railway: on-board catering, buffets, Travelling Chef, Pullman - ongoing discussion  (Read 629341 times)
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« Reply #360 on: May 19, 2013, 23:00:26 »

I had the 'privilege' of being at the St Austell brewery last week and tried a new brew of theirs - Royal Albert - named after the bridge. Well worth a try!

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« Reply #361 on: May 20, 2013, 12:28:13 »

I had the 'privilege' of being at the St Austell brewery last week and tried a new brew of theirs - Royal Albert - named after the bridge. Well worth a try!

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Just to complete your impression CfN am now on the inaugural 12:06 Pullman from Paddington.  Grin
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« Reply #362 on: May 20, 2013, 13:11:27 »

As this service used to have a Pullman, I would prefer to say "reinstated" rather than inuagural.
Still excellent news though.
Anyone know know more about any other reinstatements ? this was hinted at a while ago.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #363 on: May 21, 2013, 11:37:29 »

Has anyone tried the reintroduced breakfast Pullman ? and if so what did they think of it ?
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #364 on: May 21, 2013, 23:35:17 »

Has anyone tried the reintroduced breakfast Pullman ? and if so what did they think of it ?

Not yet, although I plan to find a way, as cheaply as possible ticket wise, to partake of breakfast on the re-introduced up Pullman on the Golden Hind.

In the meantime, two of this forum's mod/admin team partook of lunch on the re-introduced down lunch Pullman, the 1206 Royal Duchy from Paddington, on the first day of operation, 20th May 2013. Some concern, prior to boarding, that we may have been out of luck, as the screens at Paddington were advertising the 1206 as having a 'Buffet and Travelling Chef'. On enquiring at the information desk a call was made and while waiting for a reply I noticed the screens change to 'Pullman Restaurant Service', just as whoever was called phoned back!




There's currently an offer, on this service only, of a 2 course lunch for ^25 (^30 if having the fillet steak). The new crew, with the odd old hand, did admirably well providing lunch. One minor criticism - things did seem a little rushed. But with good food, good wine and good service, that can be forgiven.

There were 11 dining, which isn't bad for the first day of service following the re-introduction. Speaking to the crew we learnt that they'd fed a similar number of diners on the up Pullman breakfast service.
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« Reply #365 on: May 22, 2013, 00:02:06 »

Yes, that's an administrator and a moderator on this forum, both hard at work, as ever ...  Roll Eyes Shocked Grin
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« Reply #366 on: May 22, 2013, 00:07:44 »

It is called researching your subject CfN...   Grin Grin
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« Reply #367 on: May 22, 2013, 10:00:21 »

I was very pleased to note that the 2 reinstated Pullmans are now shown on the "Pullman dining" section of the FGW (First Great Western) website.
Only appeared in the last hour or two, earlier this morning only 4 services were listed, but all 6 are there now.

Oh and BTW (by the way) should Pullman be spelt with a capital P, or lower case ?
Other catering facilities such as travelling chef or buffet are usually lower case, but it could be argued that Pullman is indirectly named after Mr Pullman of the Pullman car company and should therefore be capitalised.
FGW, and members of this forum seem to use either.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #368 on: May 22, 2013, 18:36:17 »

Hmm.  Wikipedia tends to support the capitalization of Pullman.  Cheesy
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« Reply #369 on: May 22, 2013, 19:38:49 »

Hmm.  Wikipedia tends to support the capitalization of Pullman.  Cheesy

Or 'capitalisation', if one resides in England.  Tongue
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« Reply #370 on: May 22, 2013, 20:06:18 »

Au contraire, devon_metro: it's capitalization if one resides in England - and most particularly in Oxford!)  Wink Cheesy Grin

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« Reply #371 on: May 22, 2013, 20:07:42 »


Or 'capitalisation', if one resides in England.  Tongue


Funny one, this; -ize is the OED (Oxford English Dictionary) spelling and has been used in Britain (let's not exclude Wales, Scotland and Cornwall) for hundreds of years. However we increasingly prefer -ise in this country, so that The Timezs changed from -ize to -ise  in the 1990's, apparently (I wouldn't know as I try not to avoid any of my hard-earned travelling in the direction of Murdoch). Now even Oxford University prefers -ise in its publicity material, but the grammarians at the OED may take more convincing.
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« Reply #372 on: May 22, 2013, 20:13:03 »

Apparently it's the older form as even in Latin it was -ize. I think they only used z when they knew it was a Greek import, as in this case. Dictionaries these days claim their vocation is to be descriptive, not prescriptive, so it is rather odd they (not just OED (Oxford English Dictionary)) have resisted this. Unless we are all wrong to think-ise is the commoner in Britain.
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« Reply #373 on: May 24, 2013, 19:27:15 »

Seems the 12:06 Pullman service from Paddington is proving popular. There have been double figures taking lunch every day this week bar one. Similarly encouraging figures on the breakfast service.

Among those dining today was Heston Blumenthal. He told me he has travelled on the Pullman before "but not recently". He praised the staff for what they produce in the cramped conditions.
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« Reply #374 on: May 24, 2013, 20:12:37 »

So Heston is now asking everyone he meets, "Guess who I met on the train today?"  Tongue Wink Grin
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