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Author Topic: Great Western Railway: on-board catering, buffets, Travelling Chef, Pullman - ongoing discussion  (Read 629319 times)
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« Reply #690 on: July 01, 2014, 22:02:59 »

Even a personalised label for your cutlery's sleeping bag!  Grin
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« Reply #691 on: July 04, 2014, 16:02:50 »

Enjoy the Travelling Chef while you can.  I have been told today by a very reliable source that they are to be phased out.  No definite date yet, but probably by Christmas.

Pullman Restaurants however will remain.
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« Reply #692 on: July 04, 2014, 16:57:39 »

I do hope this very reliable source is wrong. Knowing your contacts though bobm I am fearful...
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« Reply #693 on: July 04, 2014, 17:54:15 »

Following on from the post Justin made on Facebook, I do have an official response, just need to clarify a few points with the manager in question before I follow up on Facebook and here.
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« Reply #694 on: July 04, 2014, 18:13:25 »

Thanks, as ever, Ollie.  Wink
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« Reply #695 on: July 04, 2014, 18:28:00 »

Hi again,

This is the response I've given on Facebook:

Hi Justin,

I've now been given the following response:

"We are talking to colleagues and crew about ways we would like to improve food and drink provision for both Standard and First Class customers on our long distance trains.

This follows the successful re-launch of our Pullman services last year.

The proposals include four additional Pullman services, with the return of a Pullman to our South Wales services. If agreed, the changes would also mean an updated buffet car menu and a change from Travelling Chef services to a service more suited to the choices being made by our customers."

So as it stands, it is just proposals and needs to go via consultation until any proposal is put in place.

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« Reply #696 on: July 04, 2014, 20:01:57 »

and a change from Travelling Chef services to a service more suited to the choices being made by our customers."



I'll take from that the rumours are correct.
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« Reply #697 on: July 04, 2014, 20:10:13 »

Hmm ...  Who's going to break the news to member broadgage?  Tongue Roll Eyes Shocked
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« Reply #698 on: July 04, 2014, 20:25:43 »

Hi all, this is my first post on your forum.
     Have just recieved information that the travelling chef service is to be scrapped, not sure on the details but have this info on good authority. Cry Cry  not sure if this needs its own heading, but will leave it too admin.
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« Reply #699 on: July 04, 2014, 20:40:27 »

Thanks for posting, TRAINMAN57, and welcome to the Coffee Shop forum!  Smiley

Your news item is very topical - so much so, in fact, that I've just been dealing with a similar discussion on one of our 'established members only' boards, where it was initially discussed as being 'only a rumour' there.

However, as we've now had confirmation that it is in fact a consultation on such proposals, I'm going to move and merge those other posts here - "in the interests of continuity, completeness and ease of future reference", as I always say in such cases.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #700 on: July 04, 2014, 20:52:36 »

Hi all,have heard this could take place as early as november.As an aside training for a standard class trolley started today, it will move through standard tues to thurs and a static trolley mon and fri. My opinion would be to have lost the pullmans, as with the loss of a first class coach t/c would be more viable.
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« Reply #701 on: July 04, 2014, 21:14:21 »

Wow, that is a shock.

Even if Pullmans are introduced to South Wales, surely they will be removed when electrification is complete?

Does the Standard trolley mean the buffets are being withdrawn on all but Pullman services?
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« Reply #702 on: July 04, 2014, 21:51:57 »

No withdrawal of buffet, at least not at present. Undecided
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« Reply #703 on: July 04, 2014, 22:13:24 »

Now that the cheaper advance FC(resolve) fares are history, surely it's time that FGW (First Great Western) provided FC. Passengers with at-seat complimentary meals? This would at least compensate for the loss of the TC(resolve).
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« Reply #704 on: July 04, 2014, 22:33:24 »

Enjoy the Travelling Chef while you can.  I have been told today by a very reliable source that they are to be phased out.  No definite date yet, but probably by Christmas.

Pullman Restaurants however will remain.

Predictable unfortunately. Many services that at present have a travelling chef are fairly soon due to be downgraded to the new shorter IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project.) trains. Since these have no catering for steerage, a travelling chef service cant be provided.

From the railways point of view, it is therefore desirable to cease travelling chef services in plenty of time. They don't want people saying "we had a travelling chef on the old trains but lost this after the downgrade"
Much better by far to be able to say "the new trains have a similar catering offer to that previously offered"
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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