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« Reply #1590 on: January 24, 2021, 01:05:58 am »


For a large formal dinner, a decanter holding two or more bottles is useful, a clear glass decanter allows the waiters to observe how much remains.

Or doesn't remain, in the case of dinners I have occasionally been to.
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« Reply #1591 on: February 06, 2021, 10:57:27 am »

GWR have stopped all on train catering after a request from the ORR over concerns about how it can be delivered in a Covid secure way. 

Some on-train catering has now been reintroduced.
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« Reply #1592 on: February 22, 2021, 08:07:02 pm »

With todays announcement that the end of lockdown is within sight, do GWR have any firm plans to reintroduce catering ?

Not just yet of course, but time to plan perhaps.

To offer Pullman dining on the same number of trains, and of a similar standard to that offered before the pandemic.

To offer a proper trolley service, reliably provided in both portions of every train, and passing each seat within 30 minutes of departure and at intervals no longer than every 30 minutes thereafter.

Not static (except on overcrowded trains)
Not hiding in first class.
Not hiding in the kitchen.
Not "closed for stocktaking"

A proper buffet would be preferable, but GWR have already said "no way" to that.

What I naturally suspect is that the pandemic will an excellent excuse to make more downgrades.
(Remember the Hatfield accident ? ALL Pullmans withdrawn as a result, and most never re-appeared)
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1593 on: February 22, 2021, 08:15:48 pm »

With todays announcement that the end of lockdown is within sight, do GWR have any firm plans to reintroduce catering ? ...

I'm sure we'll get an answer in due course ... for the moment, we have a promise to ensure that any school-critical trains not running at the moment will be restarted for the return to school:

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Following the Prime Minister’s confirmation this afternoon that all schools and colleges will return on Monday 8 March, I wanted to reassure you all our key school and college services will be operating.
 
Many are already running, but where they are not, we will have the reinstated in time to support students, pupils and returning staff.
 
Over the last year, we have worked closely with colleges and schools as well as our colleagues on mapping these services, and I am grateful to them for their help in this vital piece of work.  If there are any services that you would like to specifically check are included, do let me know and we will check for you.
 
As restrictions ease over the course of the coming months and more passengers return to the railway, we will continue to restore services to our timetable. We will of course keep you updated on our plans but should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to get in touch.
 
Best wishes
 
Mark

I will be writing up a few things tomorrow and putting up a "returning" thread.
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« Reply #1594 on: February 23, 2021, 06:56:00 am »

With todays announcement that the end of lockdown is within sight, do GWR have any firm plans to reintroduce catering ?

Not just yet of course, but time to plan perhaps.

To offer Pullman dining on the same number of trains, and of a similar standard to that offered before the pandemic.

To offer a proper trolley service, reliably provided in both portions of every train, and passing each seat within 30 minutes of departure and at intervals no longer than every 30 minutes thereafter.

Not static (except on overcrowded trains)
Not hiding in first class.
Not hiding in the kitchen.
Not "closed for stocktaking"

A proper buffet would be preferable, but GWR have already said "no way" to that.

What I naturally suspect is that the pandemic will an excellent excuse to make more downgrades.
(Remember the Hatfield accident ? ALL Pullmans withdrawn as a result, and most never re-appeared)

I'm sure the culinary railway needs of Broadgage are foremost in the Prime Minister's mind, albeit competing with relieving pressure on the NHS, reopening schools and trying to save the economy.........
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« Reply #1595 on: February 23, 2021, 04:18:01 pm »

I very much doubt that the PM is aware of my fondness for on train catering.
The NHS, and education are indeed higher priorities than on train catering, both before the pandemic and afterwards.

That however should not mean that train catering should be ignored on the grounds that "The NHS is more important"
And as for the "wider economy" I would argue that catering on trains is a PART of that wider economy that should be re-opened  as soon as is prudent.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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