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« Reply #120 on: November 05, 2007, 08:01:30 pm »

That would be an adventure!

Exeter - Barnstaple - Exmouth - Penzance  - Exeter

(think thats the diargram anyway!)
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« Reply #121 on: November 05, 2007, 09:01:42 pm »

Most Cornish services are crewed by Par at some point on the Out or Return leg though are they not?
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« Reply #122 on: November 05, 2007, 09:03:56 pm »

Most Cornish services are crewed by Par at some point on the Out or Return leg though are they not?

Indeed, and looking at the December diagrams I dont think its possible at all on a weekday.
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« Reply #123 on: November 05, 2007, 09:15:12 pm »

There is a diagram to Penzance from Exmouth so not impossible.

The Exmouth to Penzance working is crewed by Par west of Plymouth from December so it wont happen here!
(AKA (also known as) the snake pit)!! Par depot's new nick name!
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« Reply #124 on: November 05, 2007, 09:45:47 pm »

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Also while Penzance crew will sign them, Par will not so theres NO chance one will go to Newquay/Looe/Gunnislake.

Exeter crew cover a Gunnislake trip, don't they?
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« Reply #125 on: November 05, 2007, 09:54:52 pm »

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Also while Penzance crew will sign them, Par will not so theres NO chance one will go to Newquay/Looe/Gunnislake.

Exeter crew cover a Gunnislake trip, don't they?

Exeter currently have NO diagrammed Gunnislake work. However the guards are getting the last trips back from December, but drivers will still have no Gunnislake work. There are however the odd few who have kept their route knowledge up, but the unit from the last Gunnislake goes onto Laira (Par drivers only), then forms Looe in the morning (Par only), so while its not impossible it is highly highly unlikely to happen.....
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« Reply #126 on: November 05, 2007, 09:55:14 pm »

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Also while Penzance crew will sign them, Par will not so theres NO chance one will go to Newquay/Looe/Gunnislake.

Exeter crew cover a Gunnislake trip, don't they?
Not any more! ended last December, also, 14x units are restricted to 15mph between Bere Alston and Gunny so they won't up there!
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« Reply #127 on: November 06, 2007, 12:19:08 am »

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Not any more! ended last December
That's odd, because I was up there in April this year, and it was definitely an Exeter guard (don't know about the driver, though).

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14x units are restricted to 15mph between Bere Alston and Gunny
And that's significantly slower than anything else up there by how much, exactly? Tongue
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« Reply #128 on: November 06, 2007, 01:33:58 pm »

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Not any more! ended last December
That's odd, because I was up there in April this year, and it was definitely an Exeter guard (don't know about the driver, though).

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14x units are restricted to 15mph between Bere Alston and Gunny
And that's significantly slower than anything else up there by how much, exactly? Tongue

Exeter had no booked work from December 2006, however route knowledge doesnt expire for 6 months so they have on occassions 'covered'. Yes a 142 being restricted to 15 mph from BAS to GSL wont really effect the timings, which are slack for that section anyway...
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« Reply #129 on: November 06, 2007, 04:28:50 pm »

The Gunnislake line is practially a 5mph crawl as it is let alone with a 142 on it!
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« Reply #130 on: November 07, 2007, 10:21:03 am »

Let's face it Exeter is only going to have 6 142s and I doubt if they dare rely on more than 4 being serviceable at any one time. The other 6 will be based in Bristol for use on the Severn Beach line I believe but confirmation would be appreciated.

If Class 142 units do end up in Bristol for use on the Severn Beach Line , then even reliability permitting , I doubt that as many as 6 will be required.

If anyone knows more on this though , feel free to correct me.

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http://indefenceoffirstgreatwestern.blogspot.com/2007/10/im-back.html

"With regards to Class 142s, I've also heard this Bristol rumour. Not quite sure where it came from. It's unlikely that the 142s will make it to Bristol. The 158s they are replacing came from Devon stock and there are no plans, that I now of, to divert 15X stock down to Devon tha would necessitate the pacrs going to Bristol. Time will tell I guess."
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« Reply #131 on: November 07, 2007, 10:22:51 am »

A 142 was in Plymouth today, worked down from Exeter probably on a training run or summit, thought they weren't meant to be coming west of Newton Abbot??

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"A CLass 142 unit did work Plymouth to Exeter. This was not the plan as they wee not supposed to be going that far west but there were some stock problems and needs must when the Devil farts in your teapot as they say."
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« Reply #132 on: November 12, 2007, 05:47:43 pm »

The latest RUMOUR is that Network Rail Have barred FGW (First Great Western) from using 142's as of today, 12th November, and that FGW will now be using 150/1's instead for the new timetable. I must stress this is not confirmed, and wondered if anyone has any more info?
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« Reply #133 on: November 12, 2007, 05:50:17 pm »

I hope you are right!
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« Reply #134 on: November 12, 2007, 05:51:58 pm »

See my other post in "across the West", 150127 is at SPM (St Philip's Marsh (Bristol depot)), lookin good!
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