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Author Topic: Class 180 Adelantes - discussions, including their return to FGW  (Read 60187 times)
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« Reply #465 on: May 28, 2012, 12:58:24 PM »

180103.
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« Reply #466 on: May 28, 2012, 01:44:21 PM »

180103.

Yup!  I was slightly surprised by that.  Here is is, looking very smart, about to go onto the Cotswold Line at Oxford North Junction on the 11:21 PAD-GMV today, the first passenger service since their reintroduction:




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« Reply #467 on: May 28, 2012, 01:47:49 PM »

About 10 late at Charlbury. Apparently one of the engines failed!
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« Reply #468 on: May 28, 2012, 03:56:02 PM »

About 10 late at Charlbury. Apparently one of the engines failed!

Service was running late because of a Bridge Strike at Langley
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« Reply #469 on: May 28, 2012, 04:28:20 PM »

There was indeed one engine out, was strange to see the old auto announcements back in use, including a reference to the now removed audio entertainment in Carriage E.
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« Reply #470 on: May 28, 2012, 11:41:12 PM »

There was indeed one engine out
I thought the 180s were having reliability modifications, or has that not happened for this unit yet?
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« Reply #471 on: May 29, 2012, 09:39:10 AM »

They are, though I'm not sure that these modifications are (or will) making much difference!  Hot weather was never a friend of the 180s anyway and a 5-car unit has enough redundant power to easily keep to schedule with only four engines, much like a Voyager.  They may well bed in a little over time and I'll be keeping a close eye on them.
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« Reply #472 on: May 29, 2012, 10:01:10 AM »

Article covering the new Chiltern sliding doors and the 180s.
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A DAY of changes was on the cards for Oxfordshire Rail passengers today with new-look trains taking to the tracks on the Chiltern and Great Western routes.

The first set of Chiltern Railways’ silver Mainline coaches to be fitted with sliding power doors was entered service on the 6.19am express from Birmingham to London Marylebone, which runs non-stop from Banbury.

The electric, centrally-locked doors replace old-fashioned manual slam doors fitted to the coaches when they were built in the mid-1970s.

They will allow trains to make shorter station stops by doing away with the need for staff to shut doors by hand.

And a Class 180 Adelante train operated a First Great Western passenger service for the first time in more than three years this morning.

After two months of crew training trips, an Adelante worked the 11.20am service from London to Great Malvern, via Oxford and the Cotswold Line. It was also due to work the 5.18pm semi-fast service from London to Oxford, serving Cholsey, Didcot Parkway and Radley.

Five Adelante trains are being brought back into use by FGW over the next two months to ease overcrowding, due to growing passenger traffic.

http://www.witneygazette.co.uk/news/9730928.All_change_as_extra_trains_take_to_tracks/?
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« Reply #473 on: May 29, 2012, 05:01:51 PM »

Oh my, is that a local newspaper that manages to report factually? Never in my lifetime did I think I'd see it!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #474 on: May 29, 2012, 05:13:52 PM »

I think the author may have something to do with it!
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« Reply #475 on: May 29, 2012, 05:41:36 PM »

I think the author may have something to do with it!

Indeed. Late of this parish and much missed.
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« Reply #476 on: June 15, 2012, 11:41:55 AM »

After a 30-minute delay on Wednesday due to engine problems and spending yesterday with one engine isolated and another just idling (and losing time as a result), 180103 has been taken off of its usual duties today and been replaced by a Turbo*.  Listening to train crew feedback all the reliability modifications have made jack all difference - the vocal ones are generally negative about such issues anyway, but, so far at least, it does appear that there's been no wonder cure to their various ills.

* This could also of course be down to a lack of trained up crew to drive them today.
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« Reply #477 on: June 15, 2012, 11:43:54 AM »

What is the reason for all these problems? Why are they so unreliable?
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« Reply #478 on: June 15, 2012, 03:19:36 PM »

Hull Trains are having problems with their 180's too! Few of their services in the past few days have run between Kings Cross and Hull, with some running only the 40 miles or so between Doncaster and Hull. All are based at Old Oak Common.
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« Reply #479 on: June 15, 2012, 03:54:21 PM »

What is the reason for all these problems? Why are they so unreliable?

A cynic might say that it's down to build quality: they have been a reliability headache since they were very first introduced into service. Significant amounts of time, effort and money have been spent trying to improve them, but they're still well below what you might hope for.

The class 175s (built by the same manufacturer to a closely related design at around the same time) were also a nightmare initially, although these seem to have settled down in the last few years to become more solid performers.
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