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« on: June 21, 2010, 19:34:28 » |
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but just for a month ..... from the Marlow Maidenhead Passangers website http://www.mmpa.org.uk/Paddington H&C Station Closure
As part of the Crossrail works and reconstruction of the Hammersmith & City (H & C) line station at Paddington, the taxi ramp over platforms 15 and 16 will be demolished. To facilitate this work the service between Hammersmith and Edgware Road will be suspended from Saturday 24th July until Sunday 15th August. H & C trains will run between Edgware Road and Whitechapel, and the Circle Line will revert to its old route.
More information can be found in the Paddington Newsletter which can be downloaded from the Crossrail web site. http://www.crossrail.co.uk/near-you/works/crossrail-paddington-station |
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2010, 23:58:42 » |
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Seems a bit harsh to suspend the service from Hammersmith to Edgware Road completely. Couldn't the H&S▸ services still run between Hammersmith and Park Royal using the crossover that was used when Edgware Road was bombed - or is there an issue with trains being locked in that section for that length of time?
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 01:10:37 » |
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Seems a bit harsh to suspend the service from Hammersmith to Edgware Road completely. Couldn't the H&S▸ services still run between Hammersmith and Park Royal using the crossover that was used when Edgware Road was bombed - or is there an issue with trains being locked in that section for that length of time?
If you follow the link to the newsletter LU must have decided that it is more efficient to deal with stuff like platform extensions and track renewals in a full blockade. IIRC▸ some quite significant changes are needed at Hammersmith to allow for the longer S7 stock. Paul |
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2010, 06:32:20 » |
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Seems a bit harsh to suspend the service from Hammersmith to Edgware Road completely. Couldn't the H&S▸ services still run between Hammersmith and Park Royal using the crossover that was used when Edgware Road was bombed - or is there an issue with trains being locked in that section for that length of time? LUL▸ are doing as Paul said a lot of other works, some of it at Hammersmith which will effect the depot, also there is the problem of storage of engineering trains for a lot of the work so a blockade is the most efficient. The only thing I am uncertain about is how this closure will affect plats 13 / 14 Just as people are getting used to the change made in December 09 LUL throw some confusion in |
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2010, 08:17:36 » |
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As Electric Train says I'm probably more interested in what happens to 13/14. Especialy as I have to catch a Eurostar on 2nd September.
Will look at changing at Slough for a fast to come into the main station.
Coming back is no problem as I usually catch a fast Oxford to Slough and eithr change or be picked up.
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ChrisB
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2010, 09:15:30 » |
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There's no reason why the overbridge access to 13/14 can't be kept open, with a blockage at the end of the bridge to the H&C platforms....is there?
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2010, 12:36:18 » |
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I think that all this work on PAD» for Crossrail and its links to the BCD station is missing a trick as they're leaving the HCC station out on a limb still.
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2010, 18:18:09 » |
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There's no reason why the overbridge access to 13/14 can't be kept open, with a blockage at the end of the bridge to the H&C platforms....is there?
The work involves demolition of the "taxi" ramp which crosses over plat 13/14 also if LUL▸ are doing major works they may want 14 closed for staff safety |
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2010, 18:23:00 » |
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I think that all this work on PAD» for Crossrail and its links to the BCD station is missing a trick as they're leaving the HCC station out on a limb still.
Not when the whole thing is finished the taxi pick up / drop off is on the old "Red Star" depot which is on the raft over plat 11/12 also there will still be a number of outer suburban passenger trains using 13/14. LUL▸ are building a "Northern Ticket Hall and Concourse" |
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2010, 09:50:33 » |
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When complete, there will be no access to LUL▸ off the current bridge, only via the new northern entrance....
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2010, 11:01:51 » |
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When complete, there will be no access to LUL▸ off the current bridge, only via the new northern entrance....
Not quite Chris. Although the current bridge over platforms 10/11 and 13/14 will not give direct access to the LU platforms, there will be a gateline at its north end giving direct access into the LU concourse, so access from there to 15/16 will no longer be on the paid side of a common gateline, but it will be possible. Paul |
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2010, 11:04:53 » |
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Thast's not what Is was told yesterday - to access 15/16 you need to exit via the other bridge to the canal area & re-enter via the northernm ticket hall concourse.
The bridge to 10/11 & 13/14 will be exactly that, blocked off beyond 13/14.....
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2010, 18:41:22 » |
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Thast's not what Is was told yesterday - to access 15/16 you need to exit via the other bridge to the canal area & re-enter via the northernm ticket hall concourse.
The bridge to 10/11 & 13/14 will be exactly that, blocked off beyond 13/14.....
I'm going by that planning documentation that was posted here a while back. It clearly shows a gateline at both ends on figure 3.2.2. of the 'design and access statement'. http://idocs.westminster.gov.uk:8080/WAM/showCaseFileDocs.do?appNumber=09/09265/LBCHaving said that - maybe the direct access has to close at some stage of the project, while they demolish all the existing LU platform's roof, stairs, disused lift shafts etc etc? Paul |
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2010, 19:56:28 » |
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Quite possible - or the plans have changed....also quite possible.
I was discussing this with FGW▸ 's Project Manager for PAD» , so chances are, he knows what he's talking about....
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2010, 08:16:01 » |
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We've all stop thinking.
If as Chris B says there is to be no direct access to 15/16 from 13/14 and, therefore, presumably from the rest of the station then somebody has lost their marbles and ought not to be let out to play.
This is especialy if LUL▸ revert to teh T cup again.
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