Derailed train at Penzance sidings - 26 June 2010

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[James158]

Good morning

I have just visited the FGW^▸ (First Great Western) website and apparently a train has derailed at Penzance sidings. From the FGW website:-

06:50 Penzance to London Paddington due 12:23
This train has been cancelled. This is due to a derailed train.
Owing to a derailment in the sidings at Penzance we are unable to operate this service.

10:59 Penzance to London Paddington due 16:23
This train will be started from Plymouth.

It will no longer call at: Penzance, St Erth, Hayle, Camborne, Redruth, Truro, St Austell, Bodmin Parkway and Liskeard.

This is due to a derailed train.
Owing to a derailment in the sidings at Penzance we are unable to operate this service between Penzance and Plymouth.


It looks like this is going to disrupt some services badly out of Penzance this morning as this may disrupt trains coming out of the depot.

[JayMac]

Hmm.....d^ vu.

I wonder if 153318 has done the splits again?

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=6128.msg59991#msg59991

[grahame]

Hmm.....d^ vu.

I wonder if 153318 has done the splits again?

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=6128.msg59991#msg59991

Yes - I had that thought too, and wondered if I should merge the topics for clarity.   But then the moderator team has been doing a lot of topic merging recently ... on one hand, we want to encourage clarity by grouping discussions on a single subject, but on the other hand we don't want to keep coming in and moving things around that members have chosen to place as they do for a reason.

So - just a plea.  If original posters can have a quick look around and if there's a recent thread already running on the subject (as there is in this case - the other thread bignosemac pointed us to was followed up on earlier this month, 7 threads below on the very same board), please continue that thread unless there's a really good reason to start afresh. Thanks!


Is there something about the yard at Penzance that makes it prone to this?

[grahame]

20100626   11:22   Newquay   16:32   London Paddington   -
Full report: "This train will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8 between Newquay and Plymouth.

Presumably related - with the 125 that would have run to Newquay and back being used for the service that running not from Penzance but from Plymouth.

Will 2 cars be enough to take all the "Summer Saturday Special" crowds?  I'm suspecting that, regrettably, they will based on previous comments on similar matters; long since gone are the days of a procession of services up and down to the West Country on Summer Saturdays, using stock that was otherwise underemployed.

[super tm]

20100626   11:22   Newquay   16:32   London Paddington   -
Full report: "This train will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8 between Newquay and Plymouth.

Presumably related - with the 125 that would have run to Newquay and back being used for the service that running not from Penzance but from Plymouth.

Will 2 cars be enough to take all the "Summer Saturday Special" crowds?  I'm suspecting that, regrettably, they will based on previous comments on similar matters; long since gone are the days of a procession of services up and down to the West Country on Summer Saturdays, using stock that was otherwise underemployed.

We have not really reached the peak time on this route so a 2 car should be sufficient today.  Ask the same question in a months time and tha answer would be very different

[eightf48544]

Isn't this the second or third derailment at Penzance?

Time for the track gang, if there is one, to get packing and lining.

[SandTEngineer]

Isn't this the second or third derailment at Penzance?

Time for the track gang, if there is one, to get packing and lining.

Agreed, but it won't be a Network Rail one as the depot track is the responsibility of the TOC^▸ (Train Operating Company).

[woody]

Also I think there are 3 or 4 "specials" running to Penzance today to add to existing problems.

[eightf48544]

Yep King is supposed to be going right through to Par, now they are cleared over the Royal Albert brirge, with Western onto Penzance,

6024 King Edward I today from Paddington to Exeter where 5029 Nunney Castle is attached for the run to Par then D1015 Western Champion to Penzance. The return train on Monday should be hauled  by 5029 and 6024 throughout
 

[eightf48544]

So in the crazy world of today's railway TOCs^▸ (Train Operating Company) have to employ track workers (or contract it out) in their depots.

Why isn't it a Networkrail responsibilty it's important infrastructure after all?

[Andy]

I so wish they'd redouble the main line back into Penzance.

[Coombe Stn]

I so wish they'd redouble the main line back into Penzance.

Sorry but why? what difference would it make and where would it be laid ?

[Coombe Stn]

Just seen some photo's, it was a HST^▸ (High Speed Train) in the same place as 153318 and the same problem.

[SandTEngineer]

So in the crazy world of today's railway TOCs^▸ (Train Operating Company) have to employ track workers (or contract it out) in their depots.

Why isn't it a Networkrail responsibilty it's important infrastructure after all?

Ask the Tory party.............. .........................and no, I don't want to start a political argument here.

[SandTEngineer]

Just seen some photo's, it was a HST^▸ (High Speed Train) in the same place as 153318 and the same problem.

Sounds then if FGW^▸ (First Great Western) need to do a rethink on the type of handpoint mechanisim they have.  Most new depots of the size of Long Rock would probably have a full depot control system with powered points.  But lets wait and see........