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« on: July 10, 2010, 23:52:49 »

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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Police in Cornish resort Newquay are putting undercover spotters on trains to catch people bringing drugs and alcohol into the town.

Operation Brunel is part of new measures to combat under-age drinking and anti-social behaviour.

Police at Newquay railway station confiscate alcohol from under-age passengers.

Drinking has also been banned in Newquay town centre after two teenagers died after falling from cliffs in 2009.

Anyone buying alcohol in Newquay must show a passport or driving licence to prove their age in a clampdown on under-age drinking in the resort.

Thousands of young people have started coming to Newquay as the summer holiday gets into full swing.

Sgt Ian Drummond-Smith, from Devon and Cornwall Police, said: "This is the time when the post exam exodus has started. Hopefully people are getting the message. The idea is to make it as difficult as possible to bring alcohol in."

Searches are also taking place at Newquay airport.

A number of 16-year-olds have also been returned to their parents after being found drunk in the resort.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2010, 00:00:11 »

"Anyone buying alcohol in Newquay must show a passport or driving licence......"

Anyone??!! I'm going to Newquay in a couple of weeks, I don't drive and don't currently have a passport. I'm 37 and look it. Am I gonna have to get the bus to Padstein for a beer?
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2010, 00:03:48 »

I have to show my driving license to purchase alcohol everywhere else, did they not previously bother to check in Newquay!?  Tongue

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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2010, 00:10:30 »

This clampdown in Newquay is going to destroy it as a resort. There's absolutely no way that the Nirvana of the post war years is going to be recovered. Once again a few accidents and incidents are being used to kill off the only realistic trade the town can hope for.

Shame.
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2010, 08:20:19 »

I have to show my driving license to purchase alcohol everywhere else, did they not previously bother to check in Newquay!?  Tongue

You must look like a foetus! Wink

Even at the grand old age of 28 it would appear I look sufficiently haggard to avoid being asked for ID most of the time even in Pennsylvania (drinking age 21, most bouncers in bars completely unable to comprehend my driving licence since the d.o.b. is written dd-mm-yyyy rather than mm-dd-yyyy which they're used to). Apparently I'm supposed to carry my passport with me at all times, which I'm obviously going to do when I'm out on the lash since not only is it my only officially accepted ID it also contains my visa!
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2010, 13:07:08 »

This clampdown in Newquay is going to destroy it as a resort. There's absolutely no way that the Nirvana of the post war years is going to be recovered. Once again a few accidents and incidents are being used to kill off the only realistic trade the town can hope for.

Shame.
What planet are you currently transmitting from? have you been to newquay in the last 20 years? you will see that it is the pond life that goes there for weekends that has killed the town, the same pondlife that puke up and p*ss in peoples doorways, trash the trains on the way down, leave needles lying around, broken booze bottles all over the beaches, riots in the town centre etc....,. yeah, wonderful place that will be destroyed if they put an end to all this!!!!!!
 
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2010, 13:26:33 »

Not sure about the needles, vacman. The summer influx of young'uns to Newquay and other Cornish resorts tend to be fairly well heeled studenty types, your Tarquins and Lucindas, wannabe surfers and their hangers-on. Lots of drink and the odd toot of charlie but very few skank fiends.

I'd hazard a guess that discarded needles are more likely to come from feckless locals who are stuck in Cornwall with no prospects, or from itinerant crusties pitching up in the county for the summer months.
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2010, 13:39:21 »

I'm just being pragmatic and realistic. Newquay is lost, it's only market now is the current one. If it's forced out it'll die. There are alternatives in Cornwall and the SW for the more mature clients.

The reaction of CC and the authorities is nothing short of the class detention, and wholly inappropriate. It's unfortunate that there have been cliff fall deaths, but to use them as the excuse for this clampdown is crassly stupid and only goes further to cause resentment and hatred of the authorities. 
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2010, 16:28:47 »

One of the people who died from falling off the cliff was 18.  ID checks wouldn't have stopped him buying, consuming alcohol or getting drunk.  The police wouldn't be able to "return him to his parents" and they wouldn't be able to confiscate his alcohol unless he was drinking in a public place or causing a criminal offence (e.g. public order).  Seems a pointless exercise as most under 18s can probably get alcohol from somewhere anyway.

fairly well heeled studenty types, your Tarquins and Lucindas
You've obviously spent too long living in Bristol Grin, we ain't all like this!
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2010, 18:06:12 »

I agree Brucey, I was using broad stereotypes to make a point.

I've been here in Bristol a while; it's a great city and if I hadn't pitched up here in 2005 my life would've turned out very different (and probably not for the better). I've got a lot to be thankful for from Bristol and its people.

However, last year I returned to education and did some A Levels at City of Bristol College and there were at least five 'Vicky Pollards' in my English Language classes. I had more in common with the 76 year old guy in our tutor group, which kinda worried me.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2010, 18:36:17 »

I get ID'd all the time!!!!!!!  And I mean all the time!

Its the cherubic fat face that does it!

I once left ^400 of groceries being bought for a party because they wanted to ID me for the alcohol.

Told them nicely where they could shove their groceries
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2010, 14:51:11 »

I'm just being pragmatic and realistic. Newquay is lost, it's only market now is the current one. If it's forced out it'll die. There are alternatives in Cornwall and the SW for the more mature clients.

The reaction of CC and the authorities is nothing short of the class detention, and wholly inappropriate. It's unfortunate that there have been cliff fall deaths, but to use them as the excuse for this clampdown is crassly stupid and only goes further to cause resentment and hatred of the authorities. 
Why don't you go and work the Newquays on a friday afternoon then and once you've been told to f*ck off, threatened and god knows what else by these people who you seem to think are somehow benefiting the community then we'll ask you again! The people of Newquay are very pleased with what is going on to try and rescue the town! Already there are signs that this operation is working and it will take time before the town can change it's image but it's worth the wait!
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2010, 15:21:56 »

Quite agree!!  Some years back I inadvertently boarded a saturday evening up Newquay service at Exeter for the journey back to London and all I am going to say is "never again"!! I have never seen a train so full full of assorted dross, pondlife and scumbags in all my life! Even 1st class was not immune to the clientele thanks no doubt to the misguided policy of offering cheap 1st class advance purchase tickets. The train was delayed at Exeter "receiving police attention" and another extended stop was made at Reading for the same reason! Talking to the TM(resolve) on board she stated the situation was typical along with some other comments which I cant repeat here - needless to say, on my frequent trips to Exeter I now avoid trains like the plague which involve Newquay. What made the situation worse is that the train stopped at most stations coming up to London, god knows what people boarding at Castle Cary, Westbury etc thought of the environment they were thrust into. Quite frankly, the sooner this issue is sorted out once and for all the better for all concerned!   
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2010, 15:25:28 »

Vacman, am I likely to face problems if I'm sat on your train to Newquay quietly nursing a beer after changing at Par? I promise not to tell you to eff off.  Wink

What sort of ID will I need to enter Fortress Newquay next month?  Wink Grin
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2010, 18:15:36 »

An Op-Ed piece from The Daily Telegraph. Rather large so I haven't quoted it in full.

Out on the town with Newquay's teenage party crowd

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