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« Reply #1215 on: May 09, 2019, 02:36:20 pm »

Some this may be familiar ...

I still see comments about Crossrail being the biggest infrastructure project in Europe, but it lost that crown years ago to Le Grand Paris Express (to talk only about the railway element). This is meant to bring more city-centre transport to the banlieu (i.e. outside the périphérique), not just as a metro but an express one to cope with the greater distances. The lines are more tangential than radial -  the only extra link to the centre extends metro line 14 - so it will rely on the RER for that (which looks odd).

It really is big. 200 km of new lines, mostly tunneled, and 68 stations - all architect-designed! - and two big viaducts. And some parts have a deadline of 2024 for the Olympics, though fewer than at the start due to slippage. Given that work started in 2016, and tunneling only in 2018, getting any of it open by 2024, and the rest (bar one line not yet finalised) by 2030, is "challenging" (as they say).

The déjà vu is in the official reports that the cost (rising) was pushed up by that scary deadline. No doubt there will be more such reports later - unless the French way of managing grands projets really is much better than ours. And the cost? €19Md in 2008 prices at the start, but by 2017 it was €35Md (2012 prices) ... if it keeps rising like that then frogs may start jumping ship!  Now, what else could go wrong ... how about Siemens CBTC on Alstom trains supporting headways of 85s?

The official Grand Paris Express site has a map plus some English words (don't try to understand the line numbering!), and Metro Report International has the news.
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« Reply #1216 on: May 09, 2019, 05:48:22 pm »

I know it's a tiny detail, but I presume you mean 'billions' rather than 'millions'?  Smiley
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« Reply #1217 on: May 09, 2019, 06:53:55 pm »

I know it's a tiny detail, but I presume you mean 'billions' rather than 'millions'?  Smiley

You're right of course - it is a tiny detail. But, being French, it ought to be milliards.
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« Reply #1218 on: May 09, 2019, 11:57:34 pm »


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HOCHTIEF will undertake the work at West Drayton, Hayes & Harlington and Southall, whilst GRAHAM will undertake the work at Acton Main Line, West Ealing and Ealing Broadway.

In 2018/19 Network Rail delivered the enabling works for the new station buildings by installing the foundations and steel frames for new accessible footbridges and lift shafts. The new ticket halls and step free access will be completed by December 2020.

Congratulations to Graham for winning this contract. Please start soon. Grin
Oh, and Hochtief even sooner please. Those 3 stations are little more than construction demolition sites at the moment.
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« Reply #1219 on: May 10, 2019, 09:16:20 am »

https://www.building.co.uk/news/past-and-present-crossrail-bosses-to-face-mps-all-at-the-same-time/5099376.article

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The current and previous project leadership teams will be questioned next week

Crossrail’s long-serving ex-leaders as well as the new senior management team are set to face MPs next week to answer questions about the £17.6bn project.

Ex-chief executive Andrew Wolstenholme and ousted chair Sir Terry Morgan are set to join their current counterparts Mark Wild and Tony Meggs at a Public Accounts Committee (PAC) inquiry next Wednesday.

It will be the first time the current and past leadership teams have been publicly questioned at the same time.

The session will also feature Bernadette Kelly, a permanent secretary from the transport department, and Matthew Lodge, the director within the DfT’s rail group responsible for the sponsorship and delivery of Crossrail.
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« Reply #1220 on: May 16, 2019, 04:20:42 pm »

I know it's a tiny detail, but I presume you mean 'billions' rather than 'millions'?  Smiley

You're right of course - it is a tiny detail. But, being French, it ought to be milliards.

Is Billiards a word?
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« Reply #1221 on: May 16, 2019, 05:10:11 pm »

Yes. One billiard = a million milliards. Or ten to the power of fifteen.
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« Reply #1222 on: May 17, 2019, 04:36:22 pm »


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« Reply #1223 on: Yesterday at 03:25:06 am »

Diamond Geezer  from last Sunday.  Funny how there's not a peep from official channels when a slipped deadline is passed.

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Today's the day.

Sunday 19th May 2019 was supposed to be the day that Crossrail connected up to Shenfield.

Crossrail east

Nah, not even close.

According to long-established timelines, purple trains should already have been shuttling between Paddington and Abbey Wood for the last 23 weeks. As we all know, this did not happen.

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Today was going to be the day that Crossrail's second arm came into being, with trains bearing off after Whitechapel towards Stratford, Ilford and beyond. Technically speaking the day the Central Section Passenger Service linked up to the Great Eastern Surface Section. Proper Crossrail, with just the extension to Reading to go. Not a chance.

Today the platform indicators at Bond Street should have been showing alternating eastbound trains for the first time... Shenfield/Abbey Wood/Shenfield/Abbey Wood. Not only is that not happening, but Bond Street is so far behind schedule it could never have happened anyway.

I'd long been looking forward to hopping onto a train at Stratford today and disappearing through the Pudding Mill Portal to destinations like Farringdon, Tottenham Court Road and Paddington. No further, because the connection at Paddington wasn't due to happen until Sunday 15th December 2019, but of course that won't be happening either.

Today's also the day every Crossrail station from Stratford out to Shenfield should have been completed with upgraded entrances and step-free access, but this hasn't happened either.
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« Reply #1224 on: Yesterday at 04:20:16 pm »

Diamond Geezer  from last Sunday.  Funny how there's not a peep from official channels when a slipped deadline is passed.

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Probably because a missed deadline on the railways is hardly news, it's Business as Usual  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1225 on: Yesterday at 09:40:50 pm »

Wish our current PM would get on with her current project...

Just finishing up...
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