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« Reply #1335 on: January 26, 2020, 14:18:29 »

Now - final destination ... should departure boards show the final destination of the passenger service, or the final practical station that passengers will use the train to get to?

As other posters have said, it's not just Paddington to Twyford (or is that Reading?) and Paddington to Radley (or is that Oxford?) - it's also Oxford to Ealing Broadway (or is that Paddington?), Edinburgh Waverley to Kirkcaldy (or is that to Edinburgh Waverley?) and Romsey to Southampton Airport (or is that to Romsey?)

I am happy to be swayed on this one, but I think I prefer the train to be described by the final logical passenger stop; seen too many people (and been caught out once or twice) by getting on a train advertised as going where I want, to be overtaken on the way by a faster train ...


Maybe more useful to have both final destination and "next fastest train to..." boards?
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« Reply #1336 on: January 26, 2020, 15:13:15 »

The problem with showing TFL (Transport for London) services only going as far as Twyford especially in the peak is that the corrsponding GWR (Great Western Railway) services to Slough, Maidenhead, Twyford and Reading are peak fare services.

A bit confusing for the branches as they are shown as the connecting services. in the Marlow booket T11. 
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« Reply #1337 on: January 27, 2020, 05:56:50 »

I've noticed that TfL» (Transport for London - about) services are now advertised at Paddington as services for Reading, but it flashes to also show via Twyford.
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« Reply #1338 on: January 27, 2020, 22:31:04 »

Is there another route then?
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« Reply #1339 on: January 28, 2020, 12:35:10 »

Yes, saw that too. However since the semi-fasts also stop at Twyford, don't really think it isan improvement TBH (to be honest). What is wrong with "Reading - all stations"?
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« Reply #1340 on: January 28, 2020, 13:02:15 »

Yes, saw that too. However since the semi-fasts also stop at Twyford, don't really think it isan improvement TBH (to be honest). What is wrong with "Reading - all stations"?

In most cases, that there are some stations they don't stop at. The same issue affects non-stop - some fast trains do stop, just a little. And there seems to be significant resistance to using fast and slow, which is what we actually say, or express, which is traditional.
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« Reply #1341 on: January 28, 2020, 13:08:30 »

Growing up in South-East London, we used to have semi-fasts as well.

"What's a semi-fast?"

"It's a train that stops between the stations"

Which, on the Dartford Loop, was very accurate description.
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« Reply #1342 on: January 29, 2020, 02:34:57 »

Yes, saw that too. However since the semi-fasts also stop at Twyford, don't really think it isan improvement TBH (to be honest). What is wrong with "Reading - all stations"?

I suspect it's a TfL» (Transport for London - about) decision but I couldn't say that with any form of certainty.

Personally, I think it should show Twyford but perhaps have a scrolling message at the bottom saying it's a TfL Rail service that continues to Reading.
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« Reply #1343 on: January 29, 2020, 10:50:09 »

What is wrong with "Reading - all stations"?

People wanting Acton, West Ealing or Hanwell might be in for a shock if that was displayed.
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« Reply #1344 on: January 30, 2020, 14:11:30 »

OK Reading Local Stopping service then
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« Reply #1345 on: January 30, 2020, 21:56:08 »

OK Reading Local Stopping service then
Because not everybody reads to the bottom of the screen, assuming you mean that 'Reading Local Stopping Service' is scrolling along at the bottom.
There are at least two problems:
  • especially if people are in a hurry they search for the information they are looking for and stop as soon as they have found it.
  • especially if people are unaware of local geography, 'railway-speak' and stopping patterns. For them 'Reading Local Stopping Service' means nothing. All this statement does is code the basic data into a form that needs de-coding for it to be useful. If you don't have the key it's gobbledegook.
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« Reply #1346 on: February 07, 2020, 18:39:37 »

Today I noted on the Deck at Reading Station a notice to the effect that from February 3 some Reading-bound TfL» (Transport for London - about) trains would be leaving up to two minutes early.

I infer/guess that this means that some trains now leave Paddington two minutes early and - just perhaps - Maidenhead, say, a minute early. So is it now a 59-minute journey on some services ...
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« Reply #1347 on: February 08, 2020, 08:12:46 »

Today I noted on the Deck at Reading Station a notice to the effect that from February 3 some Reading-bound TfL» (Transport for London - about) trains would be leaving up to two minutes early.

I infer/guess that this means that some trains now leave Paddington two minutes early and - just perhaps - Maidenhead, say, a minute early. So is it now a 59-minute journey on some services ...

Not seen any signs at Padd or Maidenhead.  It might be to ease congestion at Reading, to increase the dwell time at stations, or to improve its right time running.

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« Reply #1348 on: February 08, 2020, 08:27:35 »

Today I noted on the Deck at Reading Station a notice to the effect that from February 3 some Reading-bound TfL» (Transport for London - about) trains would be leaving up to two minutes early.

I infer/guess that this means that some trains now leave Paddington two minutes early and - just perhaps - Maidenhead, say, a minute early. So is it now a 59-minute journey on some services ...

Not seen any signs at Padd or Maidenhead.  It might be to ease congestion at Reading, to increase the dwell time at stations, or to improve its right time running.



It's being advertised at Taplow too.
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« Reply #1349 on: February 12, 2020, 14:46:30 »

OK Reading Local Stopping service then
Because not everybody reads to the bottom of the screen, assuming you mean that 'Reading Local Stopping Service' is scrolling along at the bottom.
There are at least two problems:
  • especially if people are in a hurry they search for the information they are looking for and stop as soon as they have found it.
  • especially if people are unaware of local geography, 'railway-speak' and stopping patterns. For them 'Reading Local Stopping Service' means nothing. All this statement does is code the basic data into a form that needs de-coding for it to be useful. If you don't have the key it's gobbledegook.

No I did not mean scrolling - just "Reading - Local Stopping Service". The semifasts should be "Reading - Limited Stop" and all the HSTs (High Speed Train) should have "First stop Reading" (or whatever else it is) scrolling underneath.
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