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Author Topic: Will it or won't it, is it or isn't it, it might but then it might not.  (Read 7604 times)
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2007, 09:34:13 »

There is another theory as to what caused the problem, more related to the turbo, although once again the injector is a problem. These are only isolated incidences and I have never been on an MTU (Motor Traction Unit) that has failed whereas I have been on an old engine that has needed fitters attention.
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2007, 16:24:55 »

Maladjusted injectors squirting too much fuel in sounds like the engines are not as economical as they should be?

Not as clear cut as it seems.

injectors could be compared to the tappets on a petrol engine, reliant on the correct adjustment being made at service time. The engine would leave the factory set for optimum performance but if adjusted in service then I agree the engines would not be as economical as claimed if they are wrongly adjusted. A manufacturer can always set up the engine to produce the fuel burn claimed by correctly setting the injectors.

I remember a case where the Public Transport operator in Bristol procured new buses for the Bristol Area (this was before the privatisation of the bus service) from Leyland. This coincided with a fuel crisis and the mechanics adjusted the injectors to reduce the amount of fuel used. The drivers reported that the buses seemed to lack power. Leyland were called in by the operating side WITHOUT consulting the servicing side of the business. Leyland discovered the cause, the 'cutting back' of the injectors which invalidated the warranties on the vehicles and a hefty bill was presented by Leyland to the operator for the work to set up the injectors to give optimum performance. A lesson learnt the hard way.
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2007, 16:27:21 »

There is another theory as to what caused the problem, more related to the turbo, although once again the injector is a problem. These are only isolated incidences and I have never been on an MTU (Motor Traction Unit) that has failed whereas I have been on an old engine that has needed fitters attention.

Yes, your right, but I decided not to be too technical for the non techiis on this forum.
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2007, 17:59:20 »

Well if they are stuck for stock why was there an HST (High Speed Train) sat outside Newton Abbot in the yard yesterday  Cheesy

If I remember correctly, that HST was a failure and was awaiting fitters from Laira to attend to fix an air leak. It later operated a Plymouth - Paddington service starting at Newton Abbot.
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2007, 18:46:10 »

It was the ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) from the 1000 Padd - Paignton (terminated at NTA» (Newton Abbott - next trains) due to engineering)
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2007, 08:18:36 »

It was the ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) from the 1000 Padd - Paignton (terminated at NTA» (Newton Abbott - next trains) due to engineering)

I thought that service remained platformed at NTA for cleaning and seat reservation duties to be undertaken.
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2007, 08:52:44 »

It was the ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) from the 1000 Padd - Paignton (terminated at NTA» (Newton Abbott - next trains) due to engineering)

I thought that service remained platformed at NTA for cleaning and seat reservation duties to be undertaken.
They probabally do it in the yard, with the staff on it
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2007, 10:23:45 »

It was the ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) from the 1000 Padd - Paignton (terminated at NTA» (Newton Abbott - next trains) due to engineering)

I thought that service remained platformed at NTA for cleaning and seat reservation duties to be undertaken.

The platform was empty when my 153 arrived into it!
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