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« Reply #90 on: March 06, 2013, 09:45:39 »

Doubt it - the infrastructure in place from the Airport to Airport Junction is owned by the airport operator, not NR» (Network Rail - home page).

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« Reply #91 on: March 06, 2013, 10:30:36 »

Doubt it - the infrastructure in place from the Airport to Airport Junction is owned by the airport operator, not NR» (Network Rail - home page).

Might that situation change should this through link get built though?
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« Reply #92 on: March 06, 2013, 10:40:06 »

Why should it - I bet they're making good money....
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« Reply #93 on: March 06, 2013, 10:54:02 »

I looked up a fare.  ^5.60 for 4 kms as the crow flies.  ^1.40 per mile, correct me if I am wrong.
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« Reply #94 on: March 06, 2013, 11:07:34 »

Because the nature of the service will be completely different.  The present structure was determined when all that would operate is a designated Heathrow Express link operated by BAA.  As a through service will presumably be operating when the western link is operational, then BAA will not be operating those services (again presumably) and I can see the link becoming more of a proper National Rail route and then it would make sense for Network Rail to take over full responsibility for it - after all, they might not own it, but they do still maintain it.

Either that, or you have a high surcharge for travelling on a through service from, say Slough to Ealing Broadway that goes via the airport (can't see that happening), or you only pay the surcharge if your journey is actually to/from one of the airport stations.

Personally, I can see BAA being 'persuaded' to give up Heathrow Express operation and hand it over to the National Rail network when this link goes live.  There are already murmurings of significant changes to the HEx services as a result of Crossrail.  
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« Reply #95 on: March 06, 2013, 11:10:54 »

When does the HEx contract expire with NR» (Network Rail - home page)?
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« Reply #96 on: March 06, 2013, 11:25:51 »

HEx track access expires in 2023 I believe, from memory of a discussion somewhere last year.  About 10 more years anyway.
 
There are a number of different options for the mid '20s covering Heathrow in the London ands SE RUS (Route Utilisation Strategy), including for example a maximum of 10 tph from Crossrail subsuming both HEx and Connect.  Western Access is also considered, with as many as 8 through trains.  Too much to repeat here really...

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« Reply #97 on: March 06, 2013, 11:31:45 »

HEx track access expires in 2023 I believe, from memory of a discussion somewhere last year.  About 10 more years anyway.

Perfect timing?
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« Reply #98 on: March 06, 2013, 11:33:29 »

That's why I asked the Q....
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« Reply #99 on: March 06, 2013, 12:06:20 »

If the length of the original TAA was intended to give them enough time (25 years from '98?) to cover most of their capital costs of the airport branch and tunnels, perhaps it's all been part of an overall cunning plan anyway...

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« Reply #100 on: March 06, 2013, 12:12:21 »

That's why I asked the Q....

And that's why I suggested things might change when you made your 'Why should it?' and 'Doubt it' posts this morning.
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« Reply #101 on: March 06, 2013, 14:00:26 »

I looked up a fare.  ^5.60 for 4 kms as the crow flies.  ^1.40 per mile, correct me if I am wrong.

Correction - ^1.40 per km, or ^2.253 per mile.
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« Reply #102 on: March 06, 2013, 16:02:02 »

I looked up a fare.  ^5.60 for 4 kms as the crow flies.  ^1.40 per mile, correct me if I am wrong.

Correction - ^1.40 per km, or ^2.253 per mile.

Well, I did ask.   Cheesy

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« Reply #103 on: October 09, 2013, 19:34:06 »

A preferred route is likely to be announced very soon:

http://www.sloughobserver.co.uk/news/roundup/articles/2013/10/09/93876-final-route-for-500m-western-rail-access-to-heathrow-to-be-announced-by-end-of-year/
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« Reply #104 on: February 05, 2014, 13:50:34 »

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) news were reporting that Network Rail have announced their proposed plan, involving a "5-mile tunnel under Heathrow". I can't find it on their website yet, but there is this news release from NR» (Network Rail - home page). It says the proposals have been "laid out", but not where.
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