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« on: July 12, 2011, 04:58:13 pm »

http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Meeting-called-discuss-new-station-Saltford/story-12927616-detail/story.html

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A public meeting is being organised to galvanise support for the reopening of Saltford railway station. The station - which opened in 1841 - was closed in 1970 and the buildings alongside the A4 demolished.

The Saltford Environment Group has called a meeting at Saltford Hall on July 26 at 7.30pm to discuss the potential of reviving the station for commuters and students. The group was set up four months ago as part of the international transition towns movement which aims to get people thinking about what will happen when oil is more scarce.

It says that the planned electrification of the Great Western Mainline from London to Cardiff is an opportunity ^too good to miss.^

Spokesman Chris Warren said: ^Electric trains mean faster acceleration and deceleration, which means quicker timings and gaps in the timetable for reopened stations. We as a group felt the time was right to start a campaign to get our station back.^ The meeting will be attended by Bath and North East Somerset Council transport cabinet member Councillor Roger Symonds and members of the parish council.

Mr Warren added: ^We see the station as a small community facility, not a vast park and ride set-up. It could open up the station site and turn it into a small business park or other village amenity.^

Campaigners will be producing a Saltford mug, bearing the original British Railways Western Region chocolate and cream colours, which will be sold to raise funds for the campaign.
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2011, 08:41:10 pm »

From the Bristol Evening Post:

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Back campaign to re-open Saltford station

A community-based campaign has been launched in Saltford for the re-opening of Saltford Railway Station (closed in 1970). The railway station site sits alongside the congested A4 main road between Bath and Bristol. Electrification of the main line from Paddington through Saltford will give extra capacity on the line.

A re-opened railway station may reduce traffic on the A4 and serve a community of 4,200 people in Saltford itself, the villages of Corston, Newton St Loe and, significantly, also serve the Newton Park Campus of Bath Spa University.


How a re-opened Saltford station might look Illustrator: Joe Ryan ^ Saltford Environment Group 2011

The economic, environmental and social case to re-open Saltford railway station is strong. It would provide improved, alternative and sustainable transport for our community.

The Great Western mainline route utilisation strategy (2010), written by Network Rail, already envisages an hourly shuttle train service from Bath Spa to Bristol Temple Meads and possibly on to Avonmouth. It would seem a missed opportunity if this commuter shuttle was able to stop at all the existing stations but pass through Saltford because it did not have a station.

Saltford station, sitting alongside the A4, the river and cycle path is a perfect hub for activities in the Avon Valley.

Re-opening Saltford railway station fits the aims of the West of England Partnership and the revised draft Core Strategy for BANES Council.

The campaign has the support of the local parish council and the constituency MP Jacob Rees-Mogg.

BANES is conducting a feasibility study in this financial year and is also pressing the case for Saltford station to be included in the new 2013 GW Franchise.

The West of England Transport Executive is working already with the Department for Transport to ensure "passive provision" for Saltford Station when the electrification and re-signalling takes place.

With the line, signalling, pedestrian bridge and "station footprint" in place, a station with basic platforms could be re-instated at reasonable cost.

The Government may promote public transport investment like this as a means of injecting future growth into the economy.

All the indications are that Saltford Railway Station can be re-opened but now the crucial step is to demonstrate a good business case. This entails establishing potential passenger use.

A local petition is being conducted in Saltford. In addition, can I ask all businesses, organisations and regular visitors to Saltford who would use a re-opened Saltford station to write to me and I will forward their replies to all the relevant bodies involved in the decision-making process.

Please visit www.saltfordenvironmentgroup.org.uk and click on the link to the Saltford station campaign site.

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2011, 10:01:07 pm »

For this station to work it will need a large amount of car parking and from memory the old station site may not have much in the way of car parking options.  The line is squeezed between the A4 to the south( which has quite an incline) and the River Avon to the north.  To the west the railway line heads into a tunnel and to the east onto an embankment.
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2012, 09:32:30 pm »

From the Western Daily Press:

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Village stakes its claim for a new station

Saltford campaigners have continued their fight to have their local train station re-opened.

Saltford station is on the Great Western rail line between Bristol and Bath, and one of a number of disused stations in the area.

The Saltford Station Campaign group estimates the cost of re-opening it at ^2 million to ^4 million.

Spokesman Duncan Hounsell addressed members of the West of England Partnership at a meeting this week. He said: "The infrastructure and signalling are there. It is an easy site to work on. Four thousand, two hundred residents in Saltford, 1,000 in nearby villages and 4,600 students and staff at Newton Park Campus gives a total of around 10,000 people within two miles of the station. The transferring of the university campus and the potential transfer of passengers from the A4 to rail provide the station with enormous potential.

"We have a groundswell of demonstrable support, including both the Conservative and Liberal Democrat groups on Bath and North-East Somerset Council and an array of MPs. Saltford enhances your case for the Greater Bristol Metro. I ask you all to put re-opening Saltford in Metro phase one."
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2012, 09:44:59 pm »

From the Bath Chronicle:

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Hopes remaining high for Saltford Station

Campaigners have refused to be downhearted by a suggestion that the earliest that the station could reopen is 2019.

Regional transport chiefs have earmarked 2019 to 2023 as the time slot when the station might be rebuilt.

But the Saltford Station Campaign Group says the approach of the West of England Partnership is just one iron in the fire over the reinstatement of the halt which was closed in 1970.

And Bath and North East Somerset Council says it is committed to getting the station open as soon as possible.

The authority is to become the official promoter of the scheme and will come up with development funding to get it on the radar of infrastructure firm Network Rail.

Funds for construction work, which could cost between ^5.5 million and ^6.5 million, have yet to be found but could come from Network Rail, the operator of the rail franchise, the council or the Department for Transport.

B&NES cabinet member for transport Councillor Roger Symonds (Lib Dem, Combe Down) said: ^By becoming the promoter of this project, our administration has signalled to Saltford residents that it is serious about getting the station built.^

The timescale is contained in a report put together by the authorities making up the partnership for the Greater Bristol Metro Project, with the partnership also pressing for the station to be included in rail franchise documents for the region.

Mr Symonds said the council was not dependant on the Metro project^s timescale and had already commissioned experts at transport consultancy Halcrow to investigate the challenges facing the reopening process.

A campaign group spokesman said: ^The West of England^s response to the consultation is only one of many calls for Saltford station to be re-opened. We will all have to wait to see what finally appears in the specification for the Greater Western rail franchise later this year. The station could be funded directly by Network Rail.

^An alternative is that it might be funded by the rail operating company that runs the franchise with B&NES Council acting as the ^promoter^ of the station. Funding might also come from devolved transport budgets to the Bristol area. There are numerous possibilities.^

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Move to re-open Saltford railway station goes to Parliament

A petition signed by more than 2,000 people calling for the reopening of Saltford railway station has been presented in Parliament.

North East Somerset MP Jacob Rees-Mogg handed over the petition in the House of Commons as a campaign gathers pace to get trains stopping once again at the halt which closed in 1970.


From left, Chris Warren, Jacob Rees-Mogg MP, Richard James and Duncan Hounsell

A team of more than 30 campaigners knocked on doors in the village to collect 2,028 signatures, which they estimate represents support from around two-thirds of households ^ with success at around 90 per cent of homes where someone was in.

Nearly 800 of the people signing up said they would use the station at least once a week, with 261 saying they would be daily users.

Mr Rees-Mogg met representatives of the Saltford Station Campaign Group at Westminster Hall to receive the petition and later formally handed it in during a session in the main chamber.

Group spokesman Duncan Hounsell said: ^Jacob Rees-Mogg has given the campaign whole-hearted support from the outset. Handing in our petition to the House of Commons gives our campaign another boost.^

The station campaign is backed by B&NES Council, which has agreed to act as the official promoter of the reopening project, Bath Spa University and the West of England Partnership.

Mr Rees-Mogg said: ^Reopening it makes a lot of sense. The A4 is a very heavily used road and if we can move more people from road to rail, that would have great benefits for the community.^

He said the speeding up of trains with the electrification of the line through the village meant it would be less disruptive to introduce more stopping services into timetables.

^In the 13 years from 1997 to 2010, just ten miles of line were electrified. There are now plans for 800 ^ that is a huge increase.^
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2012, 05:40:25 pm »

From the BBC:

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Saltford railway station receives boost from council

Campaigners have welcomed news that councillors are considering spending ^100,000 on a business case for reopening Saltford railway station.

The station, between Bristol and Bath, was closed in 1970, but a recent survey indicated it might attract 200 new passengers a day.

Liberal Democrat-run Bath and North East Somerset Council said the cash would come from contingency budgets.

Cabinet members are being recommended to agree the budget on Wednesday.

A council spokesman said: "The potential for reopening Saltford station has been highlighted by a local campaign.

'Enormous potential'

"In order to develop the business case for the project funds are required in the order of ^250,000 over the next three years.

"This report seeks funding for an initial ^100,000 to take this work forward."

Duncan Hounsell, from the Saltford Station Campaign, said: "The council has listened to the overwhelming wish of Saltford residents for a reopened station.

"With 10,000 people each week day within 3km of the station site and 29,000 vehicles passing daily on the A4 road, a railway station in Saltford has enormous potential."

Prior to the cabinet meeting a petition with more than 2,000 names calling for the station to be reopened will be presented to councillors.
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2012, 07:39:10 pm »

I hate to be cynical about this proposal but I think the council is going to have a tough time making a business case for opening a station there. I'm fairly unimpressed by what may be some fairly disingenuous statistics in that article as well: there may well be 10,000 people within a 3 km radius, but I'd hazard a guess that many, most or all of them might be better served by Keynsham, Oldfield Park or Bath Spa stations. Further, there may well be 29,000 people a day driving through Saltford on the A4, but they are driving through the village. Their journeys do not originate or terminate there, and so they'd have absolutely no use for a station!
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2012, 08:23:03 am »

The other problem. like many other staion re-opening proposals, is thatthey are on two track mainlines with a fairly heavy flow of fast, stoppers and freight traffic. Unless they are built with loops then the extra stop(s) will reduce capacity.

We suffer this on the two track Sunday railway through Taplow where there is allegedly not enough capacity to stop there when everything is on th Relifs and they an't xtop on the mains due to the tack being too high.
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2012, 10:36:46 am »

The other problem. like many other staion re-opening proposals, is thatthey are on two track mainlines with a fairly heavy flow of fast, stoppers and freight traffic. Unless they are built with loops then the extra stop(s) will reduce capacity.

It was stated way back in 2003 that the reason that the Bristol -> Oxford service was withdrawn was a lack of capacity on the section from Batheaston junction to Bristol, though there are people who question the validity of that reason.  But with an extra station, if timetabling's clever you can have three trains setting off from Bath, the first calling only at Keynsham, the second ony at Saltford and the third only at Oldfield Park, and you're not spending anything like so much of your capacity on the stops, at the expense of not catering for intermediate traffic between the three stations.

But when the line is electrified, there will be different metrics, with faster accelerating services.  Give it 10 years, and you could be seeing a Swindon to Cardiff service, calling at Wootton Bassett, Chippenham, Melksham, Staverton, Bradford-on-Avon, Avoncliff, Freshford, Bath, Oldfield Park, Saltford, Keynsham, Temple Meads, Lawrence Hill, Stapleton Road, Filton Abey Wood, Patchway, Pilning, Severn Tunnel Junction and Newport.  Just depends how much vision responders to the DfT franchise had, how much of that vision is taken up by them, and how much the new TOC is prepare to invest in the first years to get a real traffic increase in the middle and latter years.
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2012, 03:22:32 pm »

But when the line is electrified, there will be different metrics, with faster accelerating services.  Give it 10 years, and you could be seeing a Swindon to Cardiff service, calling at Wootton Bassett, Chippenham, Melksham, Staverton, Bradford-on-Avon, Avoncliff, Freshford, Bath, Oldfield Park, Saltford, Keynsham, Temple Meads, Lawrence Hill, Stapleton Road, Filton Abey Wood, Patchway, Pilning, Severn Tunnel Junction and Newport.  Just depends how much vision responders to the DfT franchise had, how much of that vision is taken up by them, and how much the new TOC is prepare to invest in the first years to get a real traffic increase in the middle and latter years.

You forgot stations at Ashley Hill and/or Horfield between Stapleton Road and Filton Abbey Wood.  Wink
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2012, 05:39:51 pm »

I'm not convinced by the business case for this.  There are of course at least 6 buses per hour from Saltford (X39/339, 337)  and I am not convinced that a new station would bring very many advantages over those (how about spending ^100,000 to lowering the bus fares instead).  Also - how many people will actually walk to the station?  If usage projections are based on people driving then a) you need a big car park, b) you need them to not stay in their car all the way to Bristol or Bath (or their Park and Ride car-parks) and c) people driving to the station will clog up the A4 anyway.

Elctrification may change things a bit (not least because AIUI 2tph will run from BRI to PAD via Parkway without going though Saltford.
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2012, 07:57:38 pm »

From the Bristol Post:

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Call for talks on railway station

A group campaigning for the reopening of Saltford railway station has called on Bath & North East Somerset Council to hold a formal public consultation on the plans.

The Saltford Station Campaign held a public meeting where residents had the chance to express their views on plans to bring the village's station, which was shut in 1970, back into use as part of a major upgrade of local rail services in the Bristol area.

The group now wants the council to provide detailed information for residents on the facts and issues surrounding the idea.

Members claim a "significant majority" of households in Saltford are in favour of reopening the station.

Chris Warren, from the Saltford Station Campaign, said: "We want residents to be as fully informed about the proposed new station as is reasonably possible, and for all residents to give their views."
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2012, 02:06:14 pm »

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Campaign grows to reopen Saltford railway station

Two hundred people have attended a meeting to discuss the reopening of Saltford railway station.

The gathering was hosted by the village parish council with the backing of the Saltford Station Campaign Group.

The group is keen to get the station, which closed in the Beeching cuts, reopened, and Bath and North East Somerset Council is investing money in a feasibility study.

Group spokesman Rob Taylor, who helped deliver a petition to North East Somerset MP Jacob Rees-Mogg, pictured, in April, said: "The meeting was well attended with over 200 present. Practical concerns such as car parking and the safety of vehicle access to the station were raised. Nevertheless many hands went up at the end to indicate that they would be regular users of a station and would walk to the station when opened.

"This was an important opportunity for the station campaign and B&NES Council to hear the views of those residents who have concerns so that where possible these can be addressed with the reinstatement of our station to ensure that we have a community asset providing modern integrated transport solutions for the village. This meeting was another step forward on the path to a reopened station."

The meeting heard a range of views on the proposal, including concerns from residents living near the site worried about the impact on traffic and parking.

Local councillor Francine Haeberling has called for a public consultation exercise to take place in the village to ascertain even more clearly the level of support for the plans and address the concerns raised.

Mrs Haeberling (Con, Saltford) said: "It was a very interesting meeting which revealed a number of concerns from residents in Saltford about the plans which have not so far been addressed, as well as highlighting the arguments in favour of reopening our train station.

"There were clearly some very strong views on both sides of the debate at the meeting, and many questions which need to be answered. There is evidently a long way to go before many issues can be ironed out, including funding and feasibility, particularly in relation to parking and traffic."
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A DATE has been set for a public consultation on the possibility of reopening Saltford station.

The drop-in event, which is open to residents, is taking place on Tuesday February 25 from 4pm to 8pm in the Avon Room of Saltford Hall.

Read more: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Residents-say-reopening-Saltford-station-Bristol/story-20537656-detail/story.html#ixzz2sGetJJdH
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2014, 08:09:53 pm »

Many thanks for posting that update, Red Squirrel!

I've just taken the liberty of moving your post here, from the wider 'Bristol Metro' topic, as it's rather more specific to this particular campaign.

CfN.  Smiley
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