Goodbye Virgin Cross Country

simonw

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Re: Goodbye Virgin Cross Country - R.I.P.

« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2007, 22:23:19 »

Quote from: vacman on November 12, 2007, 13:39:52

Quote from: simonw on November 10, 2007, 21:23:04

Whoever runs the XC^▸ franchise will need as subsidy. It is arguably the most important franchise in the country because it 'glues' the rail network together and if anything needs expanding to include more routes.

I stand by a previous post that I made in this forum and believe that XC is a drain on the Taxpayer! It should have been disbanded and split between other operators, more government money for other improvements then.

The problem with all other main line operators is that they favour routes to London and forget about the rest of the country.

Virgin XC virtually tripled the customer base during their tenure. Their franchise agreement with the government included a significant subsidy to improve the service by replacing poor rolling stock and adding routes. This they did, and should not be criticised for it.

Finally, the government has decided to to reduce the subsidy to zero, and Arriva have agreed to run the franchise on that basis, and to increase capacity. It will be interesting to see if they can do it!


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Lee

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Re: Goodbye Virgin Cross Country - R.I.P.

« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2007, 15:16:06 »

An Arriva Cross Country advert , sorry article from this is Somerset (link below.)
http://thisissomerset.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=147472&command=displayContent&sourceNode=243687&home=yes&more_nodeId1=242222&contentPK=18949484


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Shazz

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Re: Goodbye Virgin Cross Country - R.I.P.

« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2007, 15:41:02 »

Our of interest, do VT^▸ still operate some XC^▸ routes?

just National rail picks up the ones from scotland as VT trains still


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devon_metro

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Re: Goodbye Virgin Cross Country - R.I.P.

« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2007, 16:20:34 »

Erm - Yes and no.

Until the timetable change they are jointly run between Glasgow and Manchester/Brum (i think) and as a reslt are either advertised as Virgin or AXC^» . This is until TPEx take over the running of Glasgow - Manchester with 100mph units (whats the DafT up to here???)


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Conner

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Re: Goodbye Virgin Cross Country - R.I.P.

« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2007, 16:44:03 »

At the moment services between Birmingham and Glasgow/Manchester are jointly operated by AXC^» and Virgin West Coast, although Arriva list all services in there timetable. From December AXC services won't run via Preston to Glasgow/Edingburgh only as far as Manchester. VWC will operate between Birmingham and Glasgow/Edingburgh using 5-car SuperVoyagers. Also Holyhead-London will only operate using SuperVoyagers. So AXC are losing some 5-Car SuperVoyagers so 4-Car Voyagers will operate on other routes.


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Shazz

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Re: Goodbye Virgin Cross Country - R.I.P.

« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2007, 00:38:03 »

that explains it then.

i do hope the daft see the mistake they made in not renewing the xc franchise for virgin, and that they get it back come the next renewal, as they did a superb job


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