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Author Topic: Chiltern Evergreen 3. Discussing the project delay and DfT go ahead announcement, Oct 2012  (Read 14732 times)
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« Reply #60 on: March 08, 2012, 06:51:34 PM »

Anyone want to join me on a newt shoot ? Angry
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« Reply #61 on: March 08, 2012, 10:46:57 PM »

It's already the DfTs intention for full Phase 2 spec being done in one hit by Chiltern once they get approval - they've been told to liaise with NR/East-West.
No decision has been made yet. Discussions are taking place about how the two projects can be aligned to make delivcery more efficient and cost effective, but there is resignalling and electrification at Oxford to think about too.

Assuming East-West Rail is in the HLOS when it is announced in the summer, DfT could bring forward funding to the end of CP4 if it meant all these works could be co-ordinated.
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« Reply #62 on: March 09, 2012, 10:15:06 AM »

Good to hear that discussions are taking place to get all the work between Oxford and Bicester done in one hit.
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« Reply #63 on: March 09, 2012, 11:02:58 AM »

It's already the DfTs intention for full Phase 2 spec being done in one hit by Chiltern once they get approval - they've been told to liaise with NR/East-West.

No decision has been made yet. Discussions are taking place about how the two projects can be aligned to make delivcery more efficient and cost effective, but there is resignalling and electrification at Oxford to think about too.

Assuming East-West Rail is in the HLOS when it is announced in the summer, DfT could bring forward funding to the end of CP4 if it meant all these works could be co-ordinated.

I think the decision to align has been taken, its just when....
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« Reply #64 on: March 10, 2012, 06:07:44 PM »

I think the decision to align has been taken, its just when....

According to DfT and Network Rail they haven't made any decision yet, but are assuming that both will go ahead as one enhancement between Oxford and Bicester.
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« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2012, 10:20:14 AM »

Depends on who you talk to then....
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« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2012, 05:22:27 PM »

The NIMBys have had their way again. According to the Oxford Mail, the enquiry is to be reopened at some undetermined future date about the Wolvercote tunnel bats (and some aother matters. By the tiome that has been settled, if it is at the rate of the enquiry so far, the Evergreen 3 works may be so delayed that they may fall into the CP5 period. Just at the same time central government is saying that running the railways is too expensive and costs should be cut. One of the first things they should consider is whether the extenisive consultation and enquiry times that must cost millions could be simplified.
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« Reply #67 on: March 12, 2012, 05:44:21 PM »

Chiltern could still open as far as a temporary Islip parkway... Huh

This would allow them to build up an A34 parkway base, before launching to Water Eaton and Oxford.

Unless the newts are where the chord is...
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« Reply #68 on: March 12, 2012, 06:34:38 PM »

They can progress no further than the current service offering. They need the TWA order to make any work commercially viable
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« Reply #69 on: March 13, 2012, 09:11:04 AM »

Update, extracted from latest Chiltern briefing, and reported on OBRAG website

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Focus is now switching to how we deliver BIOX in a way which compliments the prospective East West Rail Western Section scheme. DfT cannot confirm whether or not East West will proceed until July’s HLOS announcement [procedural - chris] and to achieve a 2014 opening date of the line it is necessary to start work in March on scheme designs and seasonally critical ecological works. Therefore discussions with DfT are continuing on how best to proceed with our works in a way which doesn’t compromise or add cost to the East West Project.
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« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2012, 02:51:43 PM »

The re-opening of the enquiry was slated for April 4 - I've just heard it's been postponed to May 29....so 4 days followed by the 4-day Jubilee bank holiday & 3 days before finally getting into its stride....and another two months down the drain.
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« Reply #71 on: October 18, 2012, 03:25:10 PM »

TWA Order reported as approved this afternoon:

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/9993894.Chiltern_gets_go_ahead_for_second_Oxford_London_rail_link/

No longer 'AXED' as this thread suggested...   Roll Eyes

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« Reply #72 on: October 18, 2012, 04:31:54 PM »

Indeed - I wonder who got that wrong? :-)
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« Reply #73 on: October 18, 2012, 05:36:53 PM »

To be fair to Btline, the original topic heading for this thread (Chiltern Evergreen 3 AXED?) was a question and not a statement of fact.
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« Reply #74 on: October 18, 2012, 05:40:46 PM »

Hence the smiley....

Can the Mods have a conflab & split some of these posts off into a new subject line as the question is now answered & not under discussion....
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