Go-Op Cooperative

george

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« on: July 14, 2012, 07:35:27 PM »

Hi

I'm new and was just wondering if anyone knew anything about what was happening with the new Go-Op Cooperative Westbury-brum services via Melksham . Has this proposal been dropped or just have they just not had enough news for a summer newsletter or any Twitter/Wikipedia updates.

Any info would be very much welcomed...

george

PS. Have I posted this in the right place?

Edit - changed subject line , 21st August, as this has turned into an update thread


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grahame

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Re: Go-Op Cooperative or what ever its called...

« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2012, 09:24:36 PM »

Hi, George, and welcome to the forum. There's three boards that are logical for the Cooperative proposals .. and this is one of them Wink

. The others would be the one that deals with Oxford services from the West, and the one from Oxford to Banbury.

To my own knowledge, the newsletter at http://go-op.coop/workspace/images/GO-OP-Newsletter-Spring-2012.pdf is their most recent, but that's been moved on a little in the last few weeks for everyone in that the LSTF bid it mentions has been approved. There's more on this at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=10956.msg113702#msg113702 and what it may mean at the TransWilts 'end' of their proposed route. Others who are members here may have a further update. Bear in mind that things often seem to take an age through the labarynth of rail management, and that a gap of what's said in public doesn't mean nothing's happening, nor that a scheme's gone away.


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grahame

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Re: Go-Op Cooperative or what ever its called...

« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2012, 08:22:26 AM »

For an update, Go-op, July 2012 newsletter is at http://www.go-op.coop/workspace/uploads/files/go-op_newsletterjul12.pdf


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Re: Go-Op Cooperative or what ever its called...

« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 01:28:36 PM »

Anyone care to take a bet with me that this service probably won't ever be up and running in any meaningful manner and certainly won't be operating before the next Olympics?!


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Re: Go-Op Cooperative or what ever its called...

« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 01:54:21 PM »

If the new franchise operates the planned service to Melksham, then I expect this proposal will be axed as it will be unviable.

Shame for anyone with a Coop card, as I expect you will have been able to collect points!


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dking

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Re: Go-Op Cooperative or what ever its called...

« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 04:29:17 PM »

According to a very good friend of mine Go-op (the new name was necessitated by threats of lawsuits over the 'Goco' name - think 'Gocomp***) is still on schedule to gain a Track Access Agreement. Ian Yeowart who spoke to the AGM on 21st June said that we had done quite well in navigating the bureaucratic maze so far. These things do take time and we don't have millions to throw at the process. Anyone can join Go-op - fifty quid a time and members' input is always valuable. Just click on <www.go-op.coop> and you can be part of a new Train Operating Co-op.


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Re: Go-Op Cooperative or what ever its called...

« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2012, 04:34:57 PM »

I would imagine that the Coop have more/better lawyers than Go Compare!

The shops are still Coop...


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dking

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Re: Go-Op Cooperative or what ever its called...

« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2012, 05:01:06 PM »

Thanks for the quick response ... better than the ORR!

Go-op, while it's a co-operative organisation, is an entirely separate co-operative organisation from the Co-operative Group, which operates the majority of Co-op shops in the country. Or any other co-operative organisation, for that matter. You might just as well ask why Virgin Trains doesn't pick up the the tab for South West Trains - after all, they're both railways, aren't they?

We have links, though, and hope to have the same relationship with other co-ops as does the Phone Co-op <www.thephone.coop>, being mutually supportive.

We still need new investors, though.


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Re: Go-Op Cooperative - update

« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2012, 05:33:08 PM »

Just to add a pennyworth here. When a new / changed service is being talked about, there are periods that it will naturally be in the public eye and periods where the things that are happening are happening behind the scenes. With all the activity on the franchise side at the start of this year - the consultation from January to March, and the publication of the ITT in July, that's been in its "public eye" phase, whereas Go-op has been in a different phase. Avid readers may have noted a comment I made a while back that there are five companies who could end up running trains on the TransWilts line.

Now that there is funding for TransWilts (LSTF and associated bid funds), it's a question of making it happen, and there are people working on that - and it involves talking and working with all potential operators. The objective is to ensure provision of an appropriate level of service, and to ensure that it's provided and supported by everyone concerned in such a way that it works - for the area, and for whoever is operating the trains, so that it succeeds and carries on succeeding.


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Re: Go-Op Cooperative - update

« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2012, 05:45:09 PM »

Following up ... there's rather more comment that I wrote about the next 15 years here:

http://www.wellho.net/mouth/3826_TransWilts-trains-what-the-next-franchise-period-will-bring.html

and you'll probably note (if you make a study of these things) that the "it could look like this to meet the spec" example shows a service that also happens to fit in with the Go-op suggestions.


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dking

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Re: Go-Op Cooperative - update

« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2012, 12:43:27 PM »

Grahame: useful analysis.

On a related note - Go-op is looking for a venue for its bi-monthly (during the day) Board meetings.

Criteria: must be free, must be rail accessible (or reasonably so as we're trying to cut out car journeys) and be within about a Bristol/Taunton/Westbury sort of area.

Is there a BRSA/GWSA/union room anywhere? Or does anyone know of a handy venue?


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