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Lee Fletcher
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« on: January 15, 2008, 12:04:08 PM »
CW gives his view (link below.)
http://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/articles/rail/578.shtml
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2008, 06:39:56 PM »
The bit on FGW should be forwarded to every MP on the Cardiff to Portsmouth route.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2008, 07:45:15 PM »
Its a shame that everyone seems to recognise how well used and overcrowded the Cardiff-Portsmouth route is but nothing gets done about it. Those 180s still have yet to find a home you know  Wink (apart from 2 which Hull Trains have taken)
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2008, 08:01:49 PM »
Unfortunately I think 5 coaches would be too much of a leap from the current 2 (or even the previous 3). However, if the DaFT insist on dabbling in rolling stock changes then I'm sure they could find a route currently operated by 3 car Cl 170 or CL159 (there's a clue!) services which could do with more capacity, thus releasing some decent stock for the Cardiff-Pompey.

Hourly 5 coach Adelante's on the Waterloo -Exeter anyone?
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2008, 09:54:08 PM »
Quote from: John R on January 15, 2008, 08:01:49 PM
Hourly 5 coach Adelante's on the Waterloo -Exeter anyone?
Good idea but i'm sure SWT are happy at the moment with the stock they've got and it is in absolutely brilliant condition so swapping it for unreliable expensive to lease 180's may not be the best option for them.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2008, 11:35:59 PM »
I think that's going to be the issue for anyone with half decent stock which we might have our eye on. Still, presumably the ROSCO isn't going to hold out forever, and will need to cut a deal with someone to lease the units.
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2008, 08:00:25 AM »
Quote from: John R on January 15, 2008, 08:01:49 PM
Unfortunately I think 5 coaches would be too much of a leap from the current 2 (or even the previous 3). However, if the DaFT insist on dabbling in rolling stock changes then I'm sure they could find a route currently operated by 3 car Cl 170 or CL159 (there's a clue!) services which could do with more capacity, thus releasing some decent stock for the Cardiff-Pompey.

Hourly 5 coach Adelante's on the Waterloo -Exeter anyone?


There wouldn't be enough capactity beyond Salisbury?
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2008, 06:57:25 PM »
10 coach 23m rolling stock can't operate between Basingstoke and Salisbury unless non-stopping and all trains stop at Andover - so that's out of the question.

Besides I'm sure SWT would rather keep their flagship 159 fleet.
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2008, 06:20:26 PM »
i am sure they would like to keep there 159s but prehaps the Daft will dictate that they have 180s whilst we have 159s
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2008, 04:28:51 AM »
Trust me, they wouldn't dare.  Wink

SWT can kick up a real fuss when they want to - more guts than FGW.  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2008, 09:35:05 PM »
well prehaps the DAFT should MAKE London Midland have the 180s and we can have some of the 150 units early
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