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« on: March 09, 2008, 12:03:02 AM » |
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Rail passengers can expect cancelled services and overcrowded trains when First Great Western relocates five of its carriages to a northern firm, campaigners have warned (link below.) http://thisisdevon.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=141507&command=displayContent&sourceNode=257390&home=yes&more_nodeId1=257393&contentPK=20095835They are angry that FGW plans to send five of 12 Pacer units to Northern Rail and say it could create misery on the lines which run from Exeter to Exmouth, Barnstaple and Paignton - especially at peak times. But the company insists the lost carriages will be replaced by units which are currently out of service for an upgrade. See quote below for background : Got a list  Class 142 (12) 142001 142004 142009 142028 142029 142030 142062 142063 142064 142067 142068 142070 004, 028, 062, 067, 070 Short-Leased until October 2008 to cover for refresh program. |
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Shazz
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2008, 12:24:48 AM » |
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Would this be something to do with the daft?
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2008, 08:56:46 AM » |
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Funny this now everyone loves 142s!!!........think it was well documented from the very start of the arrival of the Pacers that 5 were only on short term lease and would be going back.
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2008, 09:58:59 AM » |
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Just goes to show how desperate things are on the FGW region that we hate the thought of losing anymore rolling stock even if we knew it was going to happen as in the case of the 5 142s heading back up north later in the year. Any rolling stock is better than severe overcrowding and people being left behind at stations.
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2008, 10:28:50 AM » |
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This is VERY bad news. 2 car pacers simply cannot suffice even during off peak often!
Unless we get 5 replacement 150s its going to be a nightmare.
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vacman
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 09:27:56 PM » |
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Is this the same local rag that had the headline "train company introduces inferior rolling stock"? They just cant win!
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Manchester Picc
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2008, 03:35:57 PM » |
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The 5 x 142's which are going "Up North" were only ever on short term lease and were "loaned" from Northern Rail whilst class 158's were being refurbed. So what is actually happening is 142's are going back to the company where they belong and FGW are going to get some nice clean 158's. Feel sorry for us northerners who have had to make do without these units for some time now  |
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Lee Fletcher
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2008, 04:04:23 PM » |
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Welcome to the forum, Manchester Picc.
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John R
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2008, 04:05:59 PM » |
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Welcome Manchester Piccadilly. I hate to contradict someone's first post, but I thought the 142's were off lease, as Northern had replaced them with 158s?
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2008, 04:12:44 PM » |
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Welcome Manchester Piccadilly. I hate to contradict someone's first post, but I thought the 142's were off lease, as Northern had replaced them with 158s?
Yeh, but Northen didn't get as many 158's as they were getting so they get some of the 142's. |
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Lee Fletcher
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2008, 04:14:08 PM » |
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Welcome Manchester Piccadilly. I hate to contradict someone's first post, but I thought the 142's were off lease, as Northern had replaced them with 158s?
All of the Class 142 units are currently on lease with either FGW, ATW or Northern Rail. |
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Btline
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2008, 05:29:58 PM » |
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The 5 x 142's which are going "Up North" were only ever on short term lease and were "loaned" from Northern Rail whilst class 158's were being refurbed. So what is actually happening is 142's are going back to the company where they belong and FGW are going to get some nice clean 158's. Feel sorry for us northerners who have had to make do without these units for some time now Why doesn't the paper say that FGW are getting 158s to compensate? |
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vacman
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2008, 06:47:54 PM » |
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The 5 x 142's which are going "Up North" were only ever on short term lease and were "loaned" from Northern Rail whilst class 158's were being refurbed. So what is actually happening is 142's are going back to the company where they belong and FGW are going to get some nice clean 158's. Feel sorry for us northerners who have had to make do without these units for some time now Why doesn't the paper say that FGW are getting 158s to compensate? They've already got the 158's! the nodding donkeys are only covering whilst our fleet is in for refurb, currently 5 units at a time, so come October we won't be better or worse off. Are the Northerners forgetting that it's because they got our 158's that we've been dumped with their four wheeled crap!!!!!! |
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Jim
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2008, 07:15:15 PM » |
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Is this the same local rag that had the headline "train company introduces inferior rolling stock"? They just cant win!
Sure it isn't a comic? |
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Cheers Jim AG's most famous quote "It'll be better next week" |
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2008, 12:32:40 AM » |
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... i know im a little late but... if the 158's were being refitted would you use the only option you have the 142's on longish distance routes (the 158 routes) or would you replace the 158's with the 150's and 153's which you already have and as a short term measure wack the pacers which are fit for purpose onto the branchlines?
maybee its just me but im sure like 10 class 101's could have been brought out of retirement... bonus is that there not restricted to 2 car units you can wack 2 coaches in the middle or couple together
yeh im being nostalgic
bring back the 101's !!!!!!!!!
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