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Author Topic: Maesteg Line Longer Trains Project Held Up By Newts  (Read 1215 times)
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« on: May 06, 2008, 11:43:32 AM »

A project to provide longer trains on the Maesteg line has been delayed in case great crested newts, a protected species, live at one of the line’s stations (link below.)
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/05/05/your-train-is-crowded-due-to-newts-on-the-line-91466-20863821/

Work to extend platforms at stations between Maesteg and Cardiff was due to finish last month.

At Sarn station, contractors cannot start work until the Countryside Council for Wales (CCW) gives the green light.

All the other stations are now long enough for trains of up to four coaches, but the platform at Sarn – built in 1992 – limits Maesteg trains to two coaches.

Commuters must now wait until June, at the earliest, for additional coaches on their trains. Arriva Trains Wales said railway regulations did not allow it to operate longer Maesteg trains before Sarn’s platform is extended by using just one door for Sarn passengers to alight.

Fay Robinson, of CCW, said the results of a survey to find out if newts lived at Sarn station had not yet been confirmed :

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Great crested newts are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act and the habitats regulations. Before work that will affect great crested newts can take place at a site, developers must gain a licence from the Welsh Assembly Government which involves surveys and a suitable mitigation strategy for the newts being agreed.
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2008, 03:50:22 PM »

And the fact we nicked the stock that was meant to deliver the lengthened service.
There is no incentive to lengthen now as there can't be longer trains.
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2008, 10:08:20 PM »

Why can't you just have doors open on 2 carriages (ie. on unit) at that station?
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2008, 10:18:16 PM »

Why can't you just have doors open on 2 carriages (ie. on unit) at that station?
No SDO.
Local door is an option which I thought they could use.
As long as it is 2 150's that is.
142's or 143's have no end gangways so it can't work.
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2008, 04:15:53 PM »

Why can't you just have doors open on 2 carriages (ie. on unit) at that station?
No SDO.
Local door is an option which I thought they could use.
As long as it is 2 150's that is.
142's or 143's have no end gangways so it can't work.

Seems to work fine at St James park - only farce with pacer local doors is that only a single leaf opens!
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2008, 11:36:27 PM »

Why can't you just have doors open on 2 carriages (ie. on unit) at that station?
No SDO.
Local door is an option which I thought they could use.
As long as it is 2 150's that is.
142's or 143's have no end gangways so it can't work.

I think the Maesteg-Cardiff (on onwards to Cheltenham) service is mainly run by 158's?
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2008, 12:05:47 AM »

- only farce with pacer local doors is that only a single leaf opens!

Yes, I've experienced SDO on a 143:

I caught the 1519 from Melksham to Chippenham, for my connection to Bristol Temple Meads.  I was the only passenger waiting at Melksham: the 1519 was a 143, with two staff in the front cab.  The train stopped, and I pressed the door open button opposite me (at the rear of the train): no reaction, but the conductor gestured me right up to the front of the train (single door opened only) for me to get on the train!  I dutifully jogged up to her single opened door, squeezed in, and we departed.

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2008, 03:07:13 PM »

Melksham can't take a whole 143, so thats why.
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2008, 03:14:53 PM »

I appreciate that, Jim - but can't they open both leafs, of the front door only, in such situations?
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2008, 03:58:58 PM »

Pacers Local Door is for single leaf only, nothing they can do about it.
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