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« on: May 16, 2008, 07:28:51 PM » |
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I just bought some tickets from FGW website, and when selecting my YP Railcard, I noticed that it no longer exists and has been replaced by 16-25 Railcard. Likewise, Family Railcard is now labelled Family and Friends Railcard. Does anyone know anything about this? Is it just a name change? Am I no longer considered young at 25?   More importantly, are there any condition changes or usage changes? |
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2008, 07:32:16 PM » |
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Name changes, nothing else.
Names changed to avoid confusion as to ages of Young persons and that it doesn't have to be a related family on Family.
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2008, 07:45:06 PM » |
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Nah - the names have been changed to make it simpler to understand.... besides the fact that anyone in full time education can get a YPR...
Oh, and the Family & Friends name is the only good thing out of the changes to the railcard.
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2008, 08:18:51 PM » |
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Nah - the names have been changed to make it simpler to understand.... besides the fact that anyone in full time education can get a YPR...
Oh, and the Family & Friends name is the only good thing out of the changes to the railcard.
Out of curiosity - does this apply to the OU as well as working I am a full time student - I do 120 credits which is a full time course load Technically I am no different than someone attending oxford and working Will be interested to find out |
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2008, 08:23:35 PM » |
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If you're aged 26 or over and in full time education, you'll need to provide proof that you're a full-time student at a recognised school or college. You have to attend for over 15 hours a week and for at least 20 weeks a year. You can either show an ISIC card or have the 'Mature students only' section of the application form completed and certified. |
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2008, 08:25:57 PM » |
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Young persons doesnt apply to first class, so it's pointless for you  |
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2008, 08:32:41 PM » |
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Does on AP!
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2008, 08:33:22 PM » |
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Young persons doesnt apply to first class, so it's pointless for you Bummer I did look at the regulations and it does say the OU does not qualify for the mature persons - BUT I do know you CAN get an ISIC card as part of the OU. I might try to get one anyway for those journeys when I dont go 1st - and if I could wangle one, it may put the differential (which at the moment is £6 per day after tax) big enough to make me reconsider - especially as the project hots up and I end up only travelling every other day and staying in hotels |
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2008, 08:33:58 PM » |
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Does on AP!
No AP on cotswolds line! But there is on Ludlow-newport and newport-RDG..... |
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2008, 08:42:34 PM » |
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And here's the dichotomy:
From the 16-25 railcard site:
You can either show an ISIC card (International Student Identity Card)or have the 'Mature Students Only' section of the application form completed and certified
Also from the 16-25 railcard site:
NUS cards will not be accepted as proof of age/educational status (Open University, distance learning and part-time courses do not qualify).
From the ISIC website:
- An Open University 'confirmation of registration' for 60 points or more. (which I can get!)
So............bring it on (I visit my mum every 2-3 weeks - it will save me £6 a time alone!)
Maybe whoever controls railcards needs to harmonise their conditions (she says thinking of how much she could have saved over the years since 2003)
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2008, 08:16:04 AM » |
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Nah - the names have been changed to make it simpler to understand.... besides the fact that anyone in full time education can get a YPR...
Oh, and the Family & Friends name is the only good thing out of the changes to the railcard.
Out of curiosity - does this apply to the OU as well as working I am a full time student - I do 120 credits which is a full time course load Technically I am no different than someone attending oxford and working Will be interested to find out Just to play devils advocate, I thought that the whole point was that it gave you a discount if you were in full time education because you wouldn't be earning.. Sounds like a case of cake and eat it to me? |
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2008, 11:40:31 AM » |
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Nah - the names have been changed to make it simpler to understand.... besides the fact that anyone in full time education can get a YPR...
Oh, and the Family & Friends name is the only good thing out of the changes to the railcard.
Out of curiosity - does this apply to the OU as well as working I am a full time student - I do 120 credits which is a full time course load Technically I am no different than someone attending oxford and working Will be interested to find out Just to play devils advocate, I thought that the whole point was that it gave you a discount if you were in full time education because you wouldn't be earning.. Sounds like a case of cake and eat it to me? It probably is = but I dont care I get 10% discount from Apple every time I order something from them as well. However, to argue your devils advocat, when I was in a traditional university, I still worked 20 hours a week in a bookies - that is considered a full time job. I do not know of many students who dont work these days - certainly post 18 - and certainly if mature students |
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2008, 03:38:36 PM » |
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And here's the dichotomy:
From the 16-25 railcard site:
You can either show an ISIC card (International Student Identity Card)or have the 'Mature Students Only' section of the application form completed and certified
Also from the 16-25 railcard site:
NUS cards will not be accepted as proof of age/educational status (Open University, distance learning and part-time courses do not qualify).
From the ISIC website:
- An Open University 'confirmation of registration' for 60 points or more. (which I can get!)
So............bring it on (I visit my mum every 2-3 weeks - it will save me £6 a time alone!)
Maybe whoever controls railcards needs to harmonise their conditions (she says thinking of how much she could have saved over the years since 2003)
About 5 years ago (when I was over 26) I was able to buy a YP railcard with an ISIC card. My job sent me on a three month full time diploma course at University of Londonstarting in October 2002. My NUS card entitled me to an ISIC card (£6) and my ISIC card entitled me to a Rail card . My course finished on 6 Jan 2003, and this was shown as an expiry date on my NUS card, but I was able to use my NUS card on 5 Jan 2003 to buy an ISIC card valid until 30 Dec 2003, which I was able to use to buy an YP rail card valid until 29 December 2004. I was a student for 3 months, but I had a YP railcard for over 2 years. Was this legal? |
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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2008, 05:00:21 PM » |
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Was probably legal, one thing about Y-P cards is that they are the most miss-used railcards of the lot, i.e. more people are prosecuted for fraudulent travel for offences involving Y-P cards (well, usually the lack of a Y-P card!)
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Mookiemoo
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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2008, 05:19:39 PM » |
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And here's the dichotomy:
From the 16-25 railcard site:
You can either show an ISIC card (International Student Identity Card)or have the 'Mature Students Only' section of the application form completed and certified
Also from the 16-25 railcard site:
NUS cards will not be accepted as proof of age/educational status (Open University, distance learning and part-time courses do not qualify).
From the ISIC website:
- An Open University 'confirmation of registration' for 60 points or more. (which I can get!)
So............bring it on (I visit my mum every 2-3 weeks - it will save me £6 a time alone!)
Maybe whoever controls railcards needs to harmonise their conditions (she says thinking of how much she could have saved over the years since 2003)
About 5 years ago (when I was over 26) I was able to buy a YP railcard with an ISIC card. My job sent me on a three month full time diploma course at University of Londonstarting in October 2002. My NUS card entitled me to an ISIC card (£6) and my ISIC card entitled me to a Rail card . My course finished on 6 Jan 2003, and this was shown as an expiry date on my NUS card, but I was able to use my NUS card on 5 Jan 2003 to buy an ISIC card valid until 30 Dec 2003, which I was able to use to buy an YP rail card valid until 29 December 2004. I was a student for 3 months, but I had a YP railcard for over 2 years. Was this legal? It does say in the small print that this is legal - so long as the card that got you the rail card was legal at the time of acquisition of the rail card, the rail card stays valid afterwards |
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