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Author Topic: Summer Weymouth Loco Service has Begun!  (Read 1602 times)
Timmer
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« on: May 26, 2008, 09:00:48 PM »

According to the Western Daily Press the summer loco hauled service began operating this past weekend:

http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=146238&command=displayContent&sourceNode=146064&contentPK=20712742&folderPk=100268&pNodeId=145795

Now all we need is for FGW to really promote this extra service so it gets used. Nothing as yet on their website but it is appearing on the online journey planner.

They need to at least get some return on their investment.

Use it or lose it.
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2008, 09:25:03 PM »

Use it or lose it.

I have to echo that sentiment ... but it's no guarantee. Sorry - I still smart under a use it or loose it dictat that we were given for the Swindon to Southampton service that turned out to be use it AND lose it

Modified sentiment.  Use it, document your use, tell people you're using it, get the whole world and his dog to use it ... it's not as catchy but it'll give you a better chance of having it next year too  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2008, 09:29:26 PM »

£300,000. Ouch! 16 days of operation, so £19k each week. How many seats? 5x70 say = 350. So £54 per return seat if everyone is filled each day it runs. Take into account rainy days (like saturday) and I can see why FGW baulked at operating it.

 
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2008, 11:09:21 PM »

Problem is that it sits at WEymouth all day. Could probably run it up to Westbury and back in the time earning extra income.
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 02:08:23 PM »

If it hadn’t been for the fact that I decided to go out and about on Saturday, I would have not known it was running. The only “publicity” I have seen regarding the additional was an A4 page stuck onto the booking office doors at Frome Station Saturday morning showing the times of the additional and the other trains between Bristol and Weymouth, which certainly wasn’t there on Friday afternoon.

Whilst on the one hand, FGW certainly deserve praise for running the train throughout the summer rather than on certain dates, they also deserve critism for the way in which they have dealt with this, but then again I'm not surprised given FGW's "love" of the ex-Wessex empire.

Although crewed by EWS, it is advertised as a First Great Western service, and should be treated equally as such. I am led to believe from the on-train staff that there are negotiations on-going to enable the train to run on weekdays (presumably during the school summer holidays). Perhaps if FGW used the train on an actual timetabled services between Bristol and Weymouth – like Wessex used to do – then they might get more benefit out of it.
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2008, 03:02:28 PM »

Times
Bristol TM 0909
Keynsham 0916
Oldfield Pk 0924
Bath Spa 0927
Bradford O-A 0941
Trowbridge 0949
Westbury 0959
Frome 1010
Castle Cary 1025
Yeovil PM 1042
Maiden Newton 1106
Dorchester West 1124
Weymouth 1138

Weymouth 1658
Dorchester West 1711
Maiden Newton 1724
Yeovil PM 1744
Castle Cary 1801
Bruton 1807
Frome 1819
Westbury 1838
Trowbridge 1845
Bradford O-A 1853
Bath Spa 1908
Oldfield Park 1912
Keynsham 1920
Bristol TM 1930
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 06:18:18 PM »

If it hadn’t been for the fact that I decided to go out and about on Saturday, I would have not known it was running. The only “publicity” I have seen regarding the additional was an A4 page stuck onto the booking office doors at Frome Station Saturday morning showing the times of the additional and the other trains between Bristol and Weymouth, which certainly wasn’t there on Friday afternoon.
Hopefully the FGW publicity machine will swing into action and start publicising this extra service and soon.

Whilst on the one hand, FGW certainly deserve praise for running the train throughout the summer rather than on certain dates, they also deserve critism for the way in which they have dealt with this, but then again I'm not surprised given FGW's "love" of the ex-Wessex empire.
They do indeed deserve praise as this is going to cost a lot of money and they don't have to run this extra services as part of their franchise. It was a shame that all this wasn't sorted out over the winter so it could have been included in the printed summer timetables, but we must remember that there is a third party involved in running extra trains and thats good old Network Rail.

Although crewed by EWS, it is advertised as a First Great Western service, and should be treated equally as such. I am led to believe from the on-train staff that there are negotiations on-going to enable the train to run on weekdays (presumably during the school summer holidays).
Hopefully this will happen as its needed during the school summer holidays, Sundays too IMHO.

Perhaps if FGW used the train on an actual timetabled services between Bristol and Weymouth – like Wessex used to do – then they might get more benefit out of it.
Couldn't agree more with you. This would also free up units to boost other busy summer services in Devon and Cornwall. The only problem now with doing this is that Weymouth line trains now also run beyond Bristol to Gloucester/Worcester/Great Malvern which didn't used to happen when Wessex Trains ran the Weymouth line.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 07:04:59 PM »

If this were to operate in the weekday it would benefit me immensley. A northbound train leaving Frome at a sensible time- 1819 - would mean I could once again travel from Frome. And I like going on Loco trains too Wink
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2008, 05:28:09 PM »

16:58 Service was cancelled today according to FGW site, Member of train crew unavailable.

16:58 Weymouth to Bristol Temple Meads due 19:30
This train has been cancelled.This is due to a member of train crew being unavailable.


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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2008, 06:02:05 PM »

16:58 Service was cancelled today according to FGW site, Member of train crew unavailable.

16:58 Weymouth to Bristol Temple Meads due 19:30
This train has been cancelled.This is due to a member of train crew being unavailable.
Bit of a shame that. Does anyone know if the 09:09 ex Bristol down service ran?
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2008, 06:15:11 PM »

Down service ran. Might be due to the riot at Bath!
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2008, 06:35:11 PM »

I get the feeling the LHCS is on the 1730 WEY - BRI...
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2008, 07:31:57 PM »

I get the feeling the LHCS is on the 1730 WEY - BRI...
That would be the most commonsense thing to do.
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2008, 05:32:35 PM »

The LHCS did indeed work the 1730 Weymouth Bristol TM. I understand the 1251 Gt Malvern Weymouth (which forms the 1730) terninated at Westbury on the way down.
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2008, 07:11:51 PM »

Sorry to seem dumb but what is the LHCS
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