Great Western Coffee Shop

http://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/11875215.Rail_workers_at_Penzance_train_station_to_strike_over_Easter_weekend/?ref=mr

Would it be right to assume the dismissed person did something minor if the colleagues are striking over it?

Overtime ban at Penzance also in place from this Friday.

More detail from the RMT (http://www.rmt.org.uk/news/dismissal-p-caspall-train-manager-penzance--fgw/):


There's a further ballot at Exeter St Davids over dismissal of another colleague. That one is, I believe, over said colleague's use of social media.

More of the story here

http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/Great-Western-workers-stage-strike-Friday/story-26220849-detail/story.html (http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/Great-Western-workers-stage-strike-Friday/story-26220849-detail/story.html)



Nice to see the Packet use a picture of a Cross Country HST!  Don't suppose many of their readers would have noticed! ;D

......so on what grounds are they seeking their "Brother's" reinstatement exactly?

From the RMT website (http://www.rmt.org.uk/news/strike-in-victimisation-dispute-on-first-great-western/):



(My highlighting. CfN.)

"Fitted up and victimised".......for leaving a train door open?

........reading the rhetoric from the Union it is clear that for some people it will always be 1978......

Not a member of RMT at the time....RMT looking for any excuse to agitate. Somewhat surprised at the vote, although they only intimate, rather than state voting figures

It could be that 2 members voted for a strike and that 1 member voted against. A 2 to 1 vote is an overwhelming majority, but hardly representative of the membership as a whole.

Edit to add, the actual figures are in the following post, I was not aware of the figures when posting

The results are posted on the RMT website. It was a result of 30 in favour, 8 against.

without knowing the size of available vote, it's difficult to tell the level of support. If a couple of hundred, as an example, that'd be pretty poor.

  Was not a 'Brother'

The members balloted was 38 in number, also the vote for action short of a strike was 37 for 1 against!

...........interesting isn't it that in none of the Union proclamations there does not appear to be any denial of the accuracy of material fact of what took place........ie the door was left open!

Or doors.....

But good to hear that all 38 voted that were qualified to do so.

Humans do make mistakes of course, as you recently pointed out in another thread.   If a driver or train manager was dismissed every time they made a mistake of some sort you would soon have a shortage to work the trains.  I don't know the facts, but to get such a turnout and positive vote indicates to me that there is something irregular/unfair about the dismissal.  The membership aren't stupid and usually won't vote to strike so overwhelmingly unless that's the case.

Indeed, if there was something reasonable in this case, you'd expect the odd abstention....

We never know the full and true facts behind disciplinary action, but only what we pick up from the media, or even the Forum.  Nowadays, sacking seems to be the first option with much of today's management.    This is rife in the NHS also, I think, with a bullying attitude.    Many managers today don't understand anything about man-management like previous management did, and which only serves to lower morale.  If you want to get the best results from people you treat them fairly and, when required, strictly.
Having low morale is detrimental to people's performance.
However, I'm not saying that any disciplinary lapse should be condoned, but agree that the most serious may very well warrant the sack.

"We can confirm that a member of staff was recently dismissed for allowing the doors of a train to remain open while in passenger service, and failing to report the incident to anyone for over a month,^ added James Davis, media relations manager for First Great Western".

Sounds like there are two factors - the incident (a serious H & S breach) and the failure to report it..........I'm trying to think of a parallel in my own industry and/or others that I've worked in which would justify dismissal and there are a few, but as others have said we don't know the "Brother" in question's previous record etc

Unfortunately all the rhetoric from the Union about "bullying" and "victimisation", "staff being treated like dirt" is often their own take on assertive/firm management which is often needed but they are duty bound to fight the corner of their (newly found!) and loyal member, Brother Capsall!

To me, purely on what's been reported, it's a very serious H&S breach compounded by a failure to report it, there are a lot of situations where the reward would be a P45, but I guess we'll get the full story in due course.

Now, will the sleeper run Easter Monday?

And what other services will be disrupted?

The sleeper is run by Exeter train crew so shouldn't be affected.

Normally the sleeper driver and train manager are Exeter-based and work down on an early evening service.  Not sure about the other on board staff.


I haven't seen any reports which state where this happened.  However if it was after leaving a station one assumes platform staff (if it was a staffed station) and in any event the train conductor/TM would have been aware/involved.  As far as I am aware there are no driver only trains in the West Country.  Something doesn't seem to add up to me.

He *is* a Train Manager isn't he?

FASTLINE: Response to RMT vote in Penzance
Dear colleague,
Earlier this month, the RMT notified us of the result of its ballot of Penzance train crew depot over the dismissal of Train Manager XXXXXXXX.

I want to explain to you why XXXXXXX has been dismissed. He was the Train Manager on a high speed train and he did not follow the correct process for dispatching the train. He did not look out of the window as the train departed and as a result the train departed with a door wide open. When he realised that the door was open XXXXXXX reached out of the train and closed the door while the train was on the move. He made no attempt to stop the train. He then failed to lock the door out of use or report the incident meaning that the train remained in service with a damaged door in use. A particularly important factor in the decision to dismiss XXXXXXXX was the fact that he made no attempt to report the incident for 41 days.

While we recognise that safety incidents can happen while staff are working on our trains, we rely on the professionalism and honesty of colleagues to ensure the safety of our customers. XXXXXXXXX's failure to report the incident has led to a fundamental breakdown of trust between himself and the company.

First Great Western has followed our agreed processes. We also agreed with the RMT to undertake a Director^s review of the case over and above our normal processes. This review upheld the original decision to dismiss XXXXXXXX due to the serious safety issues involved and his failure to report the incident.
 
Given the serious safety issues involved I am disappointed that the RMT ballot has resulted in a vote for strike action and action short of a strike. The RMT has instructed its members in the Driver, Train Manager and Conductor grades at Penzance not to book on for any shifts that commence between;

^   0400 hours on Friday 27 March  until 0359 hours on Saturday 28 March 2015; and
^   0600 hours on Sunday 5 April until 0559 hours on Tuesday 7 April 2015.

The RMT has also instructed its members not to work any overtime from 0400 hours on Friday 27 March 2015.

XXXXXXXX could have injured himself. He could have injured a customer. He could have injured you.

I am not prepared to defend such behaviour, and I am extremely disappointed that the RMT feels the need to do so, particularly as XXXXXXXXX was not a member of the RMT at the time of the incident. FGW colleagues are now in a situation where they will be penalised financially for supporting a colleague who not only acted recklessly but was also not a member of their union at the time.

I will be taking every action to ensure that FGW continues to run a good train service for customers on the days when RMT industrial action is taking place.

Ben Rule
Operations Director

Having read that it (and assuming the facts are accurate) he would seem to be bang to rights.......so where do the Union get the treating staff like dirt/bullying/victimisation line from? Or is it just good old fashioned Grandstanding?

Yes, based on that letter it does appear that dismissal is a just penalty.

An update, from the West Briton (http://www.westbriton.co.uk/Rail-passengers-Cornwall-face-delays-Easter-staff/story-26271634-detail/story.html):

Looking at the map this morning, it seems as this could be having an effect today.

As is often the way, it is a fluid situation and already one train (the 12:05 from Penzance to Exeter St Davids) has been reinstated.

............I take it that this is down to the strike action?

Due to a member of train crew being unavailable between Par and Newquay:

Impact:

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled. An estimate for the resumption of normal services will be provided as soon as the problem has been fully assessed.
Customer Advice:

As a result of the unavailability of some members of train crew we are unable to operate any train services between Par and Newquay today.
Road transport will operate instead of train services but please note that it will operate from and to St Austell railway station and not from and to Par.
Any customers travelling from the Plymouth / Liskeard direction who would normally change at Par for train services to Newquay should remain on their train and change at St Austell station instead. Similarly, any customers travelling from the Penzance / Truro direction to stations on the Newquay line should alight at St Austell and not Par.

Several falmouth branch services were affected this morning, and newquay branch services all day.