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Title: Fare evasion rates - some Irish stats. Are there UK figures of the same sort?
Post by: grahame on May 26, 2025, 07:04:55
Fare evasion, Ireland - from RTE (https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0525/1514837-transport-fare-dodgers/)

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Fare dodgers cost public transport services estimated €20m

Over €20 million was lost in revenue on public transport services last year due to fare dodgers, according to estimates by transport regulatory bodies.

Figures released under Freedom of Information legislation by the National Transport Authority (NTA) show the highest fare evasion rates in 2024 were on DART and commuter rail services with 6.9% of passengers not having a valid ticket for their journey.

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Fare evasion rates as high as 15% were recorded on Dublin-Drogheda, Dublin-Longford and Dublin-M3 Parkway services.

The level of fare evasion on DART services ranged from 4% to 6%, while the lowest rate was on Cork-Mallow services at 1.3%.

I wonder what the comparable stats for the UK and the GWR area might be ...


Title: Re: Fare evasion rates - some Irish stats. Are there UK figures of the same sort?
Post by: TaplowGreen on May 26, 2025, 07:49:40
Fare evasion, Ireland - from RTE (https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0525/1514837-transport-fare-dodgers/)

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Fare dodgers cost public transport services estimated €20m

Over €20 million was lost in revenue on public transport services last year due to fare dodgers, according to estimates by transport regulatory bodies.

Figures released under Freedom of Information legislation by the National Transport Authority (NTA) show the highest fare evasion rates in 2024 were on DART and commuter rail services with 6.9% of passengers not having a valid ticket for their journey.

[snip]

Fare evasion rates as high as 15% were recorded on Dublin-Drogheda, Dublin-Longford and Dublin-M3 Parkway services.

The level of fare evasion on DART services ranged from 4% to 6%, while the lowest rate was on Cork-Mallow services at 1.3%.

I wonder what the comparable stats for the UK and the GWR area might be ...

FOI request would probably answer your question........


Title: Re: Fare evasion rates - some Irish stats. Are there UK figures of the same sort?
Post by: grahame on May 26, 2025, 11:36:31

I wonder what the comparable stats for the UK and the GWR area might be ...

FOI request would probably answer your question........

It probably would - but I asked more out of curiosity than with specific purpose / not sure what use I would make of the answers and in spite of how some might consider me  ;D ;D not really a troublemaker / enquirer purely for the sake of it.


Title: Re: Fare evasion rates - some Irish stats. Are there UK figures of the same sort?
Post by: stuving on May 26, 2025, 11:52:40
Fare evasion, Ireland - from RTE (https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0525/1514837-transport-fare-dodgers/)

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Fare dodgers cost public transport services estimated €20m

Over €20 million was lost in revenue on public transport services last year due to fare dodgers, according to estimates by transport regulatory bodies.

Figures released under Freedom of Information legislation by the National Transport Authority (NTA) show the highest fare evasion rates in 2024 were on DART and commuter rail services with 6.9% of passengers not having a valid ticket for their journey.

[snip]

Fare evasion rates as high as 15% were recorded on Dublin-Drogheda, Dublin-Longford and Dublin-M3 Parkway services.

The level of fare evasion on DART services ranged from 4% to 6%, while the lowest rate was on Cork-Mallow services at 1.3%.

I wonder what the comparable stats for the UK and the GWR area might be ...

Many forms of fraud are inherently not countable, so you won't find any real "statistics". And the piece quoted starts by talking about "estimates", before drifting into more positive terminology. Of course some are detected and can be recorded as such, so are the figures given as "recorded" just for that? Probably not, as it doesn't say so.

I guess the best you might get is an official (insiders') estimate, with elements of detection rates and some guesswork. In your case no doubt you'd want to know how these figures were arrived at too.



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