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Title: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: grahame on July 17, 2016, 23:34:09
The village of Imber on Salisbury Plain was taken over on a temporary basis by the army during the second word war.  Until its permanent return when the army no longer need it, residents and other can visit on a few occasions each year and on some of those there's a bus service.

Details:

https://imberbus.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/imberbus-leaflet2016-c.pdf

Runs from Warminster Station via Imber to Brazen Bottom, Gore Cross, New Zealand and Chitterne





Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on July 18, 2016, 00:50:23
Runs from ... Brazen Bottom...

Sorry, but that's what happens if you eat a dodgy curry.  :P :-X


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 14, 2016, 12:18:39
From Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/TransWilts/posts/844096899023687)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/imberopenday.jpg)

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Saturday, 20th August ONLY.  From Swindon at 08:36, Chippenham at 08:53 and Melksham at 09:02 by train to Warminster at 09:46 (changing at Westbury).  Then on with the "Imber Bus" - a retired London Routemaster - to the village of Imber on Salisbury Plain. The bus leaves Warminster at 10:15 and arrives Imber at 10:45.

The village of Imber was taken over during the second world war to provide an exercise area for troops, and the residents evicted. After the war, villagers were not allowed to return to their homes. The village, which is now part of the civil parish of Heytesbury, remains under the control of the Ministry of Defence despite several attempts by former residents to return. Non-military access is limited to several open days a year.

The only building to survive in a reasonable condition is the church, with the rest becoming derelict or demolished by the Army. Still standing are a pub (the Bell Inn) the manor house (Imber Court), a farmhouse and cottages, schoolroom and four housing blocks built in 1938. The church will be open on Imber Bus day, and you'll be able to puchase tea, coffee, hot chocolate, squash and biscuits at modest cost.

Catch the bus back from Imber at 13:15, 15:15 or 17:15, reaching Melksham via the same route at 15:21, 16:48 or 18:47 via the same route as you took on the way out (changing at Warminster and Westbury). These return trains reach Chippenham 10 minutes and Swindon 27 minutes after Melksham.

Day return train fares on these trains - £4.40 Melksham to Warminster. £6.20 Chippenham to Warminster. £7.20 Swindon to Warminster. Railcard and Groupsave discounts available.  Bus fare - £2 per journey (or £10 for all day ticket to explore beyond Imber too); sorry - senior passes are not accepted on these buses.  No need to book - buy your train tickets at the station or if not available there on the train. Pay your bus fare on the bus.


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: rogerw on August 15, 2016, 20:07:46
I will be going using the 0927 from Trowbridge


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 16, 2016, 07:03:14
I will be going using the 0927 from Trowbridge


Look forward to seeing you ... I think that's the train that the huge crowds (  ;D ) on the 08:36 from Swindon will be changing onto.


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 16, 2016, 21:29:24
Thanks for the information about this event, grahame.

I've sort of followed the ongoing story of Imber, from news items prompted by the occasional opening of the site to civilian visitors, but haven't yet found a suitable match between my days off and such fairly limited 'open day' opportunities.

Maybe next year.  ::)


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 18, 2016, 09:01:27
Update to the ImberBus site - https://imberbus.wordpress.com/getting-to-warminster/

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For those arriving by public transport, Warminster Rail Station is on the Cardiff-Bristol-Portsmouth rail line which operates approximately every hour, with connections available from London and the West Country at Westbury and Salisbury and also from Melksham, Chippenham and Swindon at Westbury

This one seems a real 'natural' for public transport all the way, noting that the parking in Warminster is mostly away from the railway station, which is where the n=bus goes from.

Last year, the ImberBus ran during the Bath / East blockade - this year it's good from Bristol and Bath by train to Warminster.  And of course by train at 08:36, 10:36 and 12:36 from Swindon, change at Westbury

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/imberad2.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 19, 2016, 16:15:02
Hear about some of opportunities to get to Imber tomorrow - BBC Radio Wiltshire (http://atrebatia.info/BBC%20Inner.m4a)


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 20, 2016, 19:00:30
(https://www.wellho.info/pix/routemaster_four.jpg)

What is it they say about London buses - running in groups of four at Imber.   Timetabled every half hour and in groups.

I met up with quite a few of our members (and saw the odd lurker or two  :D ) today, and there was quite a bit of otter interest:
(https://www.wellho.info/pix/routemaster_photos.jpg)

so here are some more pictures:

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/routemaster_underway.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/routemaster_poster.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/routemaster_church_inside.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/routemaster_church_outside.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/routemaster_derelict_village.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/routemaster_classic.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/routemaster_crowds.jpg)






Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: bobm on August 20, 2016, 19:12:18
Thankfully the forecast bad weather largely stayed away.

Here are some more photos from the day.

(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/imbbus.jpg)
(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/imbchurch.jpg)
(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/imbchurch2.jpg)
(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/imbbuild.jpg)
(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/imbsign.jpg)
(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/imbbus2.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 20, 2016, 19:26:43
I met up with quite a few of our members (and saw the odd lurker or two :D ) today, and there was quite a bit of otter interest ...

Any squirrels?  ;) :D ;D


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: Western Pathfinder on August 20, 2016, 19:30:08
Thanks for the heads up on this Grahame made for a most enjoyable day out just home from Imber via the Seven Riviera Express having managed not to get wet at all cheers.


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 20, 2016, 19:35:58
I met up with quite a few of our members (and saw the odd lurker or two :D ) today, and there was quite a bit of otter interest ...

Any squirrels?  ;) :D ;D

'twas busy and I might have missed them.   Did see a grey one at 06:30 this morning playing with some of my nuts (in the garden, off the hazel tree!)


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: RobT on August 20, 2016, 20:18:35
Thanks from me too Graham, had a most enjoyable day out by train/bus. I had not been aware of the Imberbus service before you posted about it here.  :)


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: bobm on August 20, 2016, 20:20:26
One slightly concerning moment came as I was walking to church and a remote controlled drone flew over my head.  It was certainly closer than 50 metres!  They do get some spectacular pictures but having seen a couple of near misses when they crash, it did make me feel a little uneasy.

https://www.caa.co.uk/Consumers/Model-aircraft-and-drones/The-Dronecode/ (https://www.caa.co.uk/Consumers/Model-aircraft-and-drones/The-Dronecode/)


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: chuffed on August 20, 2016, 20:26:22
I reckon that was Four Propellers, Now! trying out his new toy.....


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 20, 2016, 20:39:10
Note for next year ... should probably set up a time & place for forum members to meet if they wish.   Lunchtime pint at the Green Dragon, Market Lavington?


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: LiskeardRich on August 20, 2016, 23:37:11
One slightly concerning moment came as I was walking to church and a remote controlled drone flew over my head.  It was certainly closer than 50 metres!  They do get some spectacular pictures but having seen a couple of near misses when they crash, it did make me feel a little uneasy.

https://www.caa.co.uk/Consumers/Model-aircraft-and-drones/The-Dronecode/ (https://www.caa.co.uk/Consumers/Model-aircraft-and-drones/The-Dronecode/)

I noticed today that Trago have the basic drones with cameras starting from £29.99. At that price we are going to end up with operators that aren't clued up on rules and regs.


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 21, 2016, 07:32:48
One slightly concerning moment came as I was walking to church and a remote controlled drone flew over my head.  It was certainly closer than 50 metres!  They do get some spectacular pictures but having seen a couple of near misses when they crash, it did make me feel a little uneasy.

https://www.caa.co.uk/Consumers/Model-aircraft-and-drones/The-Dronecode/ (https://www.caa.co.uk/Consumers/Model-aircraft-and-drones/The-Dronecode/)

Yes, I felt the same concern - overhead the path and landing in the field-become-car park just to the right.

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/imber_drones.jpg)

A picture isn't good when you have to explain what it shows ... HOWEVER ... it can be informative.  Landing area was between the black and the white cars, with two chaps with a table and impressive looking controllers there.  The drone I saw clearly had a lot of "whizz-bangs" like camera rotation motors as well as the main drive and was brought in about the height of three people (above the busy path) 15 to 20 metres overhead and landed in the middle of the area.  Clearly not a  "Trago Mills special" and one hopes they had dispensations, insurance, etc ... there wasn't an organisation / contact name of any sort of clear display. 


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: ellendune on August 21, 2016, 09:05:36
One slightly concerning moment came as I was walking to church and a remote controlled drone flew over my head.  It was certainly closer than 50 metres!  They do get some spectacular pictures but having seen a couple of near misses when they crash, it did make me feel a little uneasy.

https://www.caa.co.uk/Consumers/Model-aircraft-and-drones/The-Dronecode/ (https://www.caa.co.uk/Consumers/Model-aircraft-and-drones/The-Dronecode/)
 
BBC Wiltshire have tweeted an aerial photo of Imber. Was it them?


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 21, 2016, 09:13:53
BBC Wiltshire have tweeted an aerial photo of Imber. Was it them?

Not directly ... their pictures are credited "PA" which I guess means "Press Association" ... who I suspect buy in from lots of others.  BBC Wiltshire were in Imber on Friday morning, long before the buses were running, and did some excellent prior publicity;  didn't see them there at all on Saturday.


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 21, 2016, 17:55:48
A news item, illustrated with some more cracking pictures, from the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-37144240):

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'Ghost village' on Salisbury Plain opened to public

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Roads through the MoD-controlled village are opened to the public on a handful of occasions

Passengers have been taken by bus to a Salisbury Plain "ghost village" which was abandoned in 1943.

The deserted Wiltshire village of Imber was cleared during World War Two and later taken over by the military.

Vintage Routemaster buses have been used to take passengers to the village, for one day each year, since 2009.

The area is normally closed to civilians as it sits in the middle of a Ministry of Defence training zone.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/13EC6/production/_90860618_hi034858228.jpg)

Villagers were given a few weeks' notice to pack their bags and leave before the community was abandoned in December 1943.

It was needed by the army to provide an exercise area for US troops preparing to invade Europe.

In the 1970s, several empty houses were built for use by UK soldiers taking part in training exercises.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/12F26/production/_90860677_hi034405816.jpg)

St Giles Church, the only original building left intact, was also opened to visitors for the weekend.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/165D6/production/_90860619_hi034858281.jpg)

(http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/6BD6/production/_90860672_hi034858258.jpg)

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/B9F6/production/_90860674_hi034858210.jpg)




Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: Jason on August 22, 2016, 11:03:21
Long wait if you missed the last bus... ;)


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: trainer on August 22, 2016, 20:50:18
Thanks for all who posted pics here.  I wish I'd ignored the weather forecast and gone.  :'(


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: bobm on August 22, 2016, 20:57:22
Trainer, you are not the first person who has said that to me about Saturday.  Funnily enough I was planning to go out on Sunday too and having seen the forecast decided to stay in.  As it turned out that was the correct decision as it poured down.  You can't win!!


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: bobm on February 19, 2017, 13:22:36
Note for next year ... should probably set up a time & place for forum members to meet if they wish.   Lunchtime pint at the Green Dragon, Market Lavington?

Date now set for 2017

Saturday 26th August 2017

https://imberbus.wordpress.com/ (https://imberbus.wordpress.com/)


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: ChrisB on February 19, 2017, 16:15:14
Time to amend the thread title?


Title: Re: Imber bus - annual trip to restricted area of Salisbury Plain
Post by: bobm on February 19, 2017, 18:22:50
Time to amend the thread title?

OK - you've twisted my arm.  Calendar updated too.  ;D


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: bobm on June 29, 2017, 16:05:32
From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-40415434)

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Access to a "ghost village" church which was taken over by the military in World War Two is to be restricted.

The village of Imber was abandoned in 1943 and has been closed to civilians ever since as it is sited on the MoD's training zone on Salisbury Plain.

St Giles Church, the only building left intact in Imber, is normally open to the public for two weeks each August.

This year the MoD has reduced it to three days due to visitors "attempting to access restricted areas".

It was just before Christmas 1943 that Imber villagers were ordered to pack up and leave to provide a training area for American troops preparing for the invasion of Europe during World War Two.

They were never allowed to return and the village vanished off the map.

Since then, up to 50 days of public access is granted each year by the MoD.

But this year it has been "significantly reduced", according to Neil Skelton, custodian of the church, because visitors have been "trespassing in the restricted areas" of the deserted village.

"Last August, we had probably around 4,000 to 5,000 people over the two weeks and at Easter it was manic," he said.

"It's the sheer numbers, we're attracting so many people but if you reduce the number of days, you'll be squeezing more people in to fewer days."

'Public in danger'

It is feared people are putting their lives at risk by trespassing in to areas where there could be "unexploded ordnance".

A Ministry of Defence spokesman said keeping visitors to Imber village safe was a "top priority".

He said: "Unfortunately we have received numerous reports of members of the public placing themselves and others in danger during previous open days by attempting to access restricted areas.

"Following these reports a risk assessment was carried out which resulted in the decision to reduce public access periods to the village."


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: ChrisB on June 29, 2017, 16:18:29
Those pesky


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Bmblbzzz on June 29, 2017, 17:05:54
I was there with a group of friends a few days before Christmas last year. We arrived just before sunset to find the entire Plain shrouded in fog. Standing at the bottom of the road up to the village, where the buses park, we could not see the church but we could hear the singing from a carol service in progress. Meanwhile, a bunch of squaddies was doing urban warfare exercises in the mock village off to one side. It was a little surreal.

If you visit when a service is not being held, the church is fascinating for its murals and carvings.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on June 29, 2017, 17:15:00
From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-40415434)

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It is feared people are putting their lives at risk by trespassing in to areas where there could be "unexploded ordnance".

I've been up to Imber (when officially open, of course!) a good few times and there have been lots of cattle grazing in the fields all along the way up there, behind lots of "keep out - danger of unexploded shells" signs.

I wonder if the unexploded shells are specially tuned to target humans, if we don't really care if the cattle get hurt, or the possibility of there presence is a great way to exclude the public.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Bmblbzzz on June 29, 2017, 17:50:03
I dare say there's a compo deal; so much per cow, so much per bullock, etc, exploded by ordnance. Or of course the farmer just signs a waiver in return for a cheap lease.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: CyclingSid on June 30, 2017, 11:04:14
Last time I was there I got the "unit trench digger" award? Won't be any of that if I go this year. The village was in better condition then, more of the buildings were recognisable, especially of you got the "guide" book. The FIBUA (Fighting in Built Up Areas) village is an addition, and a fine example of the building standards of the Property Services Agency (PSA). The predecessor to the PSA was the MPBW (Ministry of Public Blunders and Wonders, to "friends") who were even worse and disappeared in, I believe, a cloud of suspicions of financial impropriety.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: ChrisB on August 17, 2017, 10:07:09
From the Imber Bus mailshot

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Imberbus will be running on the 26th August
by The Imberbus Crew
This year's Imberbus event is being held on Saturday 26th August and it is already looking like it will be the biggest one yet, with people coming long distances to ride on a Routemaster bus across the Salisbury Plain to the lost village of Imber and beyond.

To cater for the extra passengers, this year we will be using more than 20 old and new Routemasters to provide our service, some of which have not ventured across the Salisbury plain before. We will also be enhancing the timetable to provide departures every 10-15 minutes from Warminster Station to Imber from 9.45am onwards. On arrival at Imber, some buses will then carry on to our interchange point at Gore Cross, from where they will continue at least once an hour either to Tilshead & Chitterne, or to Brazen Bottom, Market Lavington and New Zealand Farm Camp, with extra journeys operating during the afternoon.

In addition to the 16th century St.Giles' Church at Imber which will be open over the Bank Holiday weekend, this year there will also be a couple of new attractions for our passengers to visit. The Market Lavington Museum, situated next to Market Lavington Church, is opening specially for our event and in addition to exhibiting local artifacts, will be serving cream teas. Refreshments will also be available at our Chitterne terminus in the village hall, which will also house the UK Transport sales stall selling a variety of transport orientated books and models, including a limited edition Imberbus model of Routemaster RM1005.

Further details about this year's Imberbus event can be found on our website at www.imberbus.wordpress.com (http://www.imberbus.wordpress.com), including maps, timetables, fares and details of how to get to Warminster Station. If you have not been to Imber before, you might also find it useful to take a look at our Frequently Asked Questions page, which provides important information on where you can and cannot go, where you can get something to eat and also the location of public toilets (which are few and far between on the Salisbury Plain!).

IMPORTANT - If you are planning on bringing a group of people to Warminster in a bus or coach, please contact us immediately as there are very few coach parking facilities available in Warminster.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: RobT on August 17, 2017, 10:50:07
There's even a railtour going to Imber this year - should be busy at Warminster when it arrives!
http://www.ukrailtours.com/product/by-routemaster-to-the-lost-village-of-imber/


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: ChrisB on August 17, 2017, 10:56:37
sold out very quickly that did!


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: martyjon on August 27, 2017, 18:38:34
Went yesterday.

Fabulous day.

2 Open Toppers working.

Did pass one new vehicle heading towards Imber with its indicator lights flashing 'hazard' on route as we were en- route from Imber to Gore Cross which to us was an indication that the vehicle had encountered a technical problem.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: ChrisB on August 31, 2017, 09:08:39
Anyone lost a camera on those buses this year?

From Imberbus mailshot

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The Imberbus Crew posted: "If you were one of the hundreds of people who joined us at Imber last Saturday, please check your bag to see if your camera is still inside it. If it is missing, please send a description of it to imberbus23a@gmail.com , as we may have found it on one "


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: JayMac on August 31, 2017, 09:46:34
Anyone lost a phone on those buses this year?

Mailshot says camera, not phone.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: ChrisB on August 31, 2017, 10:00:28
it does, edited. thanks!


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: bobm on July 01, 2018, 18:48:25
One of the buses providing the railway station to depot shuttle for today's Reading Buses open day (see separate thread (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20009.msg240908#msg240908)) was from the fleet used for the annual Imberbus running day.

(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/imbrdg.jpg)

It reminded me that this year's event is on Sunday Saturday 18th August - https://imberbus.wordpress.com/ (https://imberbus.wordpress.com/)

Edit - Saturday not Sunday - grahame


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: bobm on July 01, 2018, 20:00:17
It reminded me that this year's event is on Sunday Saturday 18th August - https://imberbus.wordpress.com/ (https://imberbus.wordpress.com/)
Edit - Saturday not Sunday - grahame

Thanks - muddling Sunday for Saturday is some typo!


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 13, 2018, 15:52:40
Imber bus us 18th August 2018.

From a TransWilts perspective ...

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Train from Swindon at 08:36, Chippenham at 08:53, Melksham at 09:02 to Warminster at 09:46 (changing at Westbury) to ride on an old London Routemaster bus to the abandoned village of Imber on Salisbury Plain. Buses run every 15 minutes from Warminster Station to Imber and various destination beyond.  Train fare £7.70 return from Swindon to Warminster, £6.60 return from Chippenham or £4.70 return from Melksham. Imber Bus fares from £2 single up to £10 for an all day rover - see https://imberbus.wordpress.com/imberbus-2018/ for details of routes and timetables.

Return trains from Warminster at 14:12, 16:01 and 18:01 - again, change at Westbury.  No need to prebook - buy your train tickets just before you board the train, and your bus tickets at Warminster Station.

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/imberad18.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Clan Line on August 14, 2018, 13:45:17
There's even a railtour going to Imber this year - should be busy at Warminster when it arrives!
http://www.ukrailtours.com/product/by-routemaster-to-the-lost-village-of-imber/

It was ! The bus queue after the train had arrived..............but it soon dispersed with the number of buses that they had running.
A good day out - recommended to all.

(http://i63.tinypic.com/24eyywy.jpg)

Rail tour arriving at Warminster - longest train ever to call at Warminster ? (Immaculate Class 66 on the front)

(http://i64.tinypic.com/33msk5y.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: RobT on August 14, 2018, 15:25:20
Indeed - 66779 was the last of it's class to be built for the UK, and has been named "Evening Star" after the last steam locomotive to be built at Swindon in 1960. It is to be donated to the National Railway Museum at the end of its working life.

https://www.mainlinediesels.net/index.php?nav=1000155&lang=en&id=8874&action=shownews#.W3LllrmWypo


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Clan Line on August 14, 2018, 16:59:06
Indeed - 66779 was the last of it's class to be built for the UK, and has been named "Evening Star" after the last steam locomotive to be built at Swindon in 1960. It is to be donated to the National Railway Museum at the end of its working life.

Caught it on the way back - between Upton Scudamore and Warminster.

(http://i66.tinypic.com/2a7innl.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 17, 2018, 08:22:46
The Imberbus is running TOMORROW and the team there has posted  final details at https://imberbus.wordpress.com/2018/08/17/imberbus-tomorrow/

What a parking palaver they're expecting!    Let the train take the strain.   Personally, travelling on the 09:02 from Melksham and changing at Westbury ... that's the 08:36 from Swindon and 08:53 from Chippenham.

Any Coffee Shop members - please say hello; one of the great things about trips like this is the change to meet old friends and make new ones.  I intend to stand out from the crowd (a.k.a. I will probably be wearing a bright yellow TransWilts T Shirt) ...


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: martyjon on August 17, 2018, 10:42:53
I'll be there. Three relatives travelling down today from Kendal, Cumbria and staying with relatives in Gloucester tonight and I'm joining the 5 of them on the 0910 from Yate, table for 6 booked for lunch at Churchill Arms, West Lavington. I'll be wearing my DUNEDIN RAILWAYS trainmans cap so lets see who spots who first. The 12 year old from Kendal is really excited to be coming after seeing photos of last years happenings. Hope the weather blesses this years event with the same fine weather as it did last year.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: JayMac on August 17, 2018, 15:17:08
What a parking palaver they're expecting!    Let the train take the strain.   Personally, travelling on the 09:02 from Melksham and changing at Westbury ... that's the 08:36 from Swindon and 08:53 from Chippenham.

You're travelling via Westbury on a weekend? Good luck with that based on previous attempts to reach a destination at the weekend via Westbury.


Insanity. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results - possibly Albert Einstein.  ;D


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 17, 2018, 18:36:01
You're travelling via Westbury on a weekend? Good luck with that based on previous attempts to reach a destination at the weekend via Westbury.

Thank you

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Insanity. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results - possibly Albert Einstein.  ;D

Development.  Doing similar things over and over, tuning to make them more reliable - certainly Graham E   ::)

Changes this weekend ....
- Saturday not Sunday
- Warminster not Weymouth
- Bright yellow Y shirt not one that hides in the crowd


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: JayMac on August 17, 2018, 18:51:02
Bright yellow Y shirt not one that hides in the crowd

Like a T-shirt but worn when doing a Village People dance?  ;D


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: froome on August 17, 2018, 20:52:49
I shall be there, with my partner and some friends. I've been meaning to visit Imber for many years, but have usually been away when the buses have run. We will probably spend the day there travelling around, armed with nothing more than plenty of butties!


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: rogerw on August 17, 2018, 21:38:07
Usually an excellent day.  Unfortunately lock keeping duties prevent me from attending


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: hassaanhc on August 18, 2018, 05:34:18
Hoping to be there today. Although GWR have already made my journey difficult as the 0957 arrival at Westbury (0835 from Paddington, 0903 from Reading) has been cancelled due to a shortage of staff  >:(

And in the evening the same applies to the 1653 from Westbury towards Paddington.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 18, 2018, 06:52:22
Hoping to be there today. Although GWR have already made my journey difficult as the 0957 arrival at Westbury (0835 from Paddington, 0903 from Reading) has been cancelled due to a shortage of staff  >:(

And in the evening the same applies to the 1653 from Westbury towards Paddington.

Can I offer you a sliver lining ... 07:58 from Reading (if you're up in time) ... add a trip on the TransWilts calling Melksham at 09:02.  There's a return via the same route at around 4 O'Clock.   No longer listed in PSUL  ;D http://www.psul4all.free-online.co.uk/2018.htm but still an excellent side trip


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: hassaanhc on August 18, 2018, 08:30:48
Hoping to be there today. Although GWR have already made my journey difficult as the 0957 arrival at Westbury (0835 from Paddington, 0903 from Reading) has been cancelled due to a shortage of staff  >:(

And in the evening the same applies to the 1653 from Westbury towards Paddington.

Can I offer you a sliver lining ... 07:58 from Reading (if you're up in time) ... add a trip on the TransWilts calling Melksham at 09:02.  There's a return via the same route at around 4 O'Clock.   No longer listed in PSUL  ;D http://www.psul4all.free-online.co.uk/2018.htm but still an excellent side trip
Last night I was considering going that way on the return :D hopefully if I've done everything by then then I'll go that way :)


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: chuffed on August 18, 2018, 18:58:34
First visit and very enjoyable too. The buses were so well organised ..you wait at Gore Cross new Interchange for 5 minutes and 3 come along at once !. The drivers, conductors  and passengers all seemed to be enjoying themselves immensely, and it was very gratifying to see that most had splashed out on the day Rover in order to reach the far flung reaches of the network. All the venues offering refreshments seemed well geared up for dealing with large crowds, and it was most apt and appropriate to see the Battle bus on display. One of the conductors who owned two of the 19 Routemasters running around said that it had taken an intensive 2 weeks on the ground to plan and organise, and I'm sure that I speak for everyone who attended today, in offering my warmest congratulations on a job well done and thanks for a splendid day out.  ;D
I didn't catch sight of the yellow shirted Sir Ellis of Melksham...wondered if he was still stuck on the platform waiting for a train...... ???


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 18, 2018, 19:48:29
First visit and very enjoyable too. The buses were so well organised

They do a marvellous job. Lots of things that they're doing for a hobby that should be done every day of the year and everywhere.  I will NOT say "amateurs" because they are not. They do it in a professional manner - and indeed quiet a few of them do it professionally for the rest of the year too. And they're a sheer joy as they bring pleasure to so many.

There is a lot that can be learned from how this day is organised ... or rather a lot that is actually already well learned by the people there that could and should be transferred into daily life.  But I know that so many factors in daily life fail to allow that.

You mention Gore's cross.

An areas of gravel parking, sprayed out in the middle to indicate a pedestrian area for bus interchanges.  Bus stops on three sides of that large middle square, with bus stops clearly marked for
- Imber and Warminster
- Tilshead and Chitterne
- Brazen Bottom and the Lavingtons
and with current timetables on display too!   And extra stop (and a sighting to to) for the bus to New Zealand Camp which passes the track end.

Buses arrive - seemingly from all directions - at :25.  Lots of passengers get off and walk across to joint a different bus, but a lot stay on as this is an intermediate point on the routes.  And the at about :30 all 7 or 8 buses head off to continue their journeys.

Forming a rest lounge and information point, there's a bus parked up within the central area staffed with happy, friendly, knowedglable people.

Just look at that and see what we have been bleating for elsewhere
- Public transport that connects
- Public transport that form a network even where multiple operators are involved
- Clear labelling and information at public transport stops
- Helpful and well informed staff and all but the very quietest of spots
- Regular (even interval, clock face service)
Why can't we have these things ... every day ... every place.  It makes sense

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I didn't catch sight of the yellow shirted Sir Ellis of Melksham...wondered if he was still stuck on the platform waiting for a train...... ???

Hmm ... no such person.  You may be getting confused with me - plain "Mr" or - better - Graham.  I met about a dozen people I know in real life or from The Coffee Shop, and made new  contact too.   I suspect, chaffed, you might  have been at Imber when I took the only bus of the day to run direct from Warminster to Chitterne Church, and perhaps you were then in front of me passing the Lavingtons of New Zealand Camp when I was exploring through Brazen Bottom.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Western Pathfinder on August 18, 2018, 22:04:34
I can confirm today's sighting of the lesser ponytail Grahame in full sight at Imber this afternoon, also there Sir Peter hendy of NR fame having a day of from all things Rail and playing with his very well presented Bus,and it's good to see our friend David Regwell out and about looking much improved, and I had the pleasure of the company of the long serving Mrs Western Pathfinder today who never thought that busses could be so interesting !.. also bumped into Geof & Vicky of all the stations, who were busy filming so YouTube beckons in the next day or so.
All in all a very well organised day out in the Wiltshire countryside.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: JayMac on August 18, 2018, 23:30:23
You're travelling via Westbury on a weekend? Good luck with that based on previous attempts to reach a destination at the weekend via Westbury.

Thank you

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Insanity. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results - possibly Albert Einstein.  ;D

Development.  Doing similar things over and over, tuning to make them more reliable - certainly Graham E   ::)

How was the train journey back to Melksham?  :P


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 19, 2018, 00:16:30
How was the train journey back to Melksham?  :P

The near-perfect performance of the Imber buses yesterday provided a stark contract to the operation of public transport services between Melksham and Warminster, with public transport providers seemingly scoring far too many needless own goals.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: froome on August 19, 2018, 07:06:21
How was the train journey back to Melksham?  :P

The near-perfect performance of the Imber buses yesterday provided a stark contract to the operation of public transport services between Melksham and Warminster, with public transport providers seemingly scoring far too many needless own goals.

Indeed. We did have a train service from Bath to get there and back, but I was surprised to find that the train manager had no knowledge of why his train emptied out at Warminster. He was looking puzzled when on the platform there and we explained to him why. I assume GWR should have been aware of the event, but perhaps this information doesn't filter down to where needed?


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: froome on August 19, 2018, 07:10:08
As first timers, we also really enjoyed the day. As well as all the comments made on the professionalism of the organisation, one that stood out for me was their website, which gave all the information needed and very clearly and simply. It should be a model for others to use.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 19, 2018, 08:47:33
Some more pictures ... this series concentrating on the buses!

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/im18_00.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/im18_01.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/im18_02.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/im18_03.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/im18_04.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/im18_06.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/im18_05.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: CyclingSid on August 19, 2018, 09:47:25
Have to join others in noting the excellent organisation, much commented on by Her Indoors. She was likewise intrigued by the variety of buses.
Interesting to see the changes since I was last there 40 years ago, when taking the role of ditch/trench digger in the army (strange things they get engineers to do, who they had spent a lot of money training) The plain itself never changes much.
Must admit that I was a bit dubious about the descent into West Lavington on the brakes (distinct smell of brake linings), army beat it into you that you went down such hills on the gear box, but if you have an automatic or semi-automatic there aren't the same options.
Not sure why MoD Police felt they needed an Armed Response Unit at Imber (perhaps they have no other)?
Good to meet the eminence grise of Community Rail. I did think, on Bath station, it could be one of those days when the Cardiff-Portsmouth train shrank to two or one coaches, but fortunately not.
All in all an excellent day. Be interesting to know the final numbers.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: martyjon on August 19, 2018, 10:57:10
(https://www.wellho.info/pix/im18_06.jpg)

Grahame, good day also for First to promote their "D" Discovery routes and vehicles, pity you didn't photo that bus with "Imber" up front, now that would have been a "discovery".

I cannot add any more commendations to those already made by yourself and others on this thread. The other person you were talking to at Imber when I met you is an old acquaintance of mine from South Glos Council / Yate Station Group.

My 5 family members who were with me thoroughly enjoyed the day especially the 11 year old whose day was made when he was invited to sit in the police cars drivers seat.

As you may have noted, the bus we arrived on at the Imber, St Giles Church stop also conveyed DR and I volunteered my nephew, who is less than half my age, to give him a "booster push" up to the inclined path to and into the church in his wheelchair where we left him deep in conversation with others. He would have had "natural assistance, gravity" to return to the Imber St. Giles Church bus stop.

DR narrated to my nephew the role of the police in the first IMBERBUS. He told him that over a hundred officers were deployed from the MOD, BTP and the local constabulary as there were fears the public would ignore the warnings and no entry notices and go where they weren't supposed to. Yesterdays event had just six officers present.

It was also nice to see that the access path to the church had been greatly improved which seems to be a virtually new construction since I last visited the church area 2 years ago, I presume funded by the donations of previous IMBERBUS days particularly the handrails up the steepest part of the path leading to the church porch itself which was particularly helpful to the older visitors.




Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 19, 2018, 11:15:55
Grahame, good day also for First to promote their "D" Discovery routes and vehicles, pity you didn't photo that bus with "Imber" up front, now that would have been a "discovery".

I did - just didn't include it in this thread.  Online ((here)) (https://www.wellho.info/pix/im18_14.jpg) and used as part of a personal Facebook post at https://www.facebook.com/groups/option247/permalink/723093571374545 - the group is public so you should be able to see it.

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I cannot add any more commendations to those already made by yourself and others on this thread. The other person you were talking to at Imber when I met you is an old acquaintance of mine from South Glos Council / Yate Station Group.

My 5 family members who were with me thoroughly enjoyed the day especially the 11 year old whose day was made when he was invited to sit in the police cars drivers seat.

As you may have noted, the bus we arrived on at the Imber, St Giles Church stop also conveyed DR and I volunteered my nephew, who is less than half my age, to give him a "booster push" up to the inclined path to and into the church in his wheelchair where we left him deep in conversation with others. He would have had "natural assistance, gravity" to return to the Imber St. Giles Church bus stop.

DR narrated to my nephew the role of the police in the first IMBERBUS. He told him that over a hundred officers were deployed from the MOD, BTP and the local constabulary as there were fears the public would ignore the warnings and no entry notices and go where they weren't supposed to. Yesterdays event had just six officers present.

It was also nice to see that the access path to the church had been greatly improved which seems to be a virtually new construction since I last visited the church area 2 years ago, I presume funded by the donations of previous IMBERBUS days particularly the handrails up the steepest part of the path leading to the church porch itself which was particularly helpful to the older visitors.

I missed DR and some others I know were there - still have a note of a dozen friends caught up with; sorry our was so very brief as I had a connection to a sporadic service beyond the plain to catch.  And I know many more were there.   I'll b along next year too - catching up with old friends, though very much in a changed role.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: froome on August 19, 2018, 11:17:56
Have to join others in noting the excellent organisation, much commented on by Her Indoors. She was likewise intrigued by the variety of buses.
Interesting to see the changes since I was last there 40 years ago, when taking the role of ditch/trench digger in the army (strange things they get engineers to do, who they had spent a lot of money training) The plain itself never changes much.
Must admit that I was a bit dubious about the descent into West Lavington on the brakes (distinct smell of brake linings), army beat it into you that you went down such hills on the gear box, but if you have an automatic or semi-automatic there aren't the same options.
Not sure why MoD Police felt they needed an Armed Response Unit at Imber (perhaps they have no other)?
Good to meet the eminence grise of Community Rail. I did think, on Bath station, it could be one of those days when the Cardiff-Portsmouth train shrank to two or one coaches, but fortunately not.
All in all an excellent day. Be interesting to know the final numbers.

While I was waiting at Bath Spa, I did see one of the Routemasters setting off from in front of the station, empty apart from the driver and conductor. It struck me that perhaps some of them could have been advertised as having early departure points, obviously dependent on where they came from, to take people to Warminster. But given that they were driven by volunteers, perhaps this wouldn't have been possible?


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 19, 2018, 11:24:39
But given that they were driven by volunteers, perhaps this wouldn't have been possible?

The whole insurance and liability issues associated with bus running days are massive - there is no Warminster bus running day with year in part caused by the hassle and expense of organising such matters, I am told.   Having said which, the Chippenham bus running day a couple of months back was interesting if lower key, and one special service yesterday did take the main trunk road south from Warminster before turning off to Chitterne - essentially an ECS working to get vehicles in place for early Chitterne to Imber runs, but carrying passengers.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: martyjon on August 19, 2018, 11:25:05
Ah, that's another destination display which I didn't see, I saw the one "Imber 23A".


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 19, 2018, 12:15:56
How was the train journey back to Melksham?  :P

The near-perfect performance of the Imber buses yesterday provided a stark contract to the operation of public transport services between Melksham and Warminster, with public transport providers seemingly scoring far too many needless own goals.


Further post at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20243 will fill regular posters in on the technical details.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: martyjon on August 19, 2018, 13:38:33
One of the family members I took yesterday has recently had promotion at work, the unit she was working in having been split and she has been appointed to manage the Worcester half in Worcester which previously had been managed from Gloucester where she was located. Her moans about GWR frequently cancelling the Great Malvern service to and from Gloucester were much in evident when we got back to Warminster from Imber an hour earlier than I had planned (more on this below) to see the second next train to Bristol cancelled, the one which we would have got if we has stuck to my timetable for the day.

In the morning on arrival at Warminster the six of us were in the rear coach of a 3 car 166 and thus our exit from the unit was just by the stairs to the station foot bridge and we were amongst the first to use the footbridge and there were buses still loading in the station forecourt. It transpired that the departure was delayed to allow a connection to be made off our train and to top it all I had 5 adult and 1 child tickets dispensed from the conductors ticket machine and later in the journey to Gore Cross the conductor handed us all this years souvenir Day Tickets which had mysteriously disappeared and then reappeared during the course of the journey. Previously the tickets were purchased on the forecourt at Warminster but the person assigned to this task this year was caught short and had to respond to a call of nature at the time of our arrival. Thus we were now running an hour ahead of our scheduled (fall back) itinerary.

Whilst on this thread I was told that last years event made over £12,000 in donations to the two charities that benefit from the event, The British Legion (Help for Heros) and the Friends of St. Giles Church, Imber.

Also a feature of this years event besides the new Gore Cross Bus Station an area beyond Imber village was commandeered to act as a Park and Ride which buses on their journey to Gore Cross entered from the road but exited over a Bailey Bridge to regain the main highway.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: hassaanhc on August 21, 2018, 00:47:59
I had a great day at Imber. Managed to go on LT700, RMC1461 (both 3 times each!), RMC1485 and 69502. I was quite fed up of RMC1461 at the end as it was a bit too bouncy 😂 RMC1485 was better, but I'd have preferred LTs to have turned up for me more! At least Abellio's LT700 was an excellent bus, although it was a shame I didn't get to go on any of the other two Euro 6 ones (Metroline ST812 or RATP London United LT1000). I don't like the engine sound of the Euro 5 ones (Arriva LT1 and Stagecoach LT264) :P . Shame there was no Volvo B5LH this time as it would have been funny to see it struggle with the short gears on the hills :D (last year
RATP London Sovereign sent their VHR45203 which is a B5LH with the LT body).
Shame about the train journeys to/from there though >:( Things started off good from Southall with the 0757 to Reading (ok it was 5 minutes late by Ealing Broadway due to a delayed freight train, but the DMU timetable and driver showing off the Class 387 acceleration allowed that time to be recovered by Twyford). Unfortunately from Reading the train to Westbury was cancelled (0903 towards Paignton), so I had to instead to use the 0905 service to Basingstoke (165130) and then the 1007 to Salisbury (9-car 159). Usually that 1007 actually has a portion direct to Warminster but due to the SWR strike it was terminating at Salisbury. So I then had to stand on 158798 which was the Brighton to Great Malvern service, arriving at 1132, about 82 minutes late compared to my original arrival of 1010. Passengers on that Brighton to Great Malvern train actually had a scare as their train was being announced as terminating at Westbury due to a shortage of staff, but luckily it actually ran through in the end.

On the way back I didn't mind about which way I went, but the 1803 to Cardiff Central was cancelled due to a shortage of staff, with the unit 158766 passing through ECS about 10 minutes later ::) . So I had to go the other way towards Salisbury at 1810. But due to the SWR strike there was a +50 connection with the train towards Basingstoke, so instead I stayed on to Southampton Central where it was a good connection with the northbound XC service at 1920, which I stayed on until Reading and had no issues until Southall (even managing to time myself perfectly for the 2018 booked DMU service, which produced 165109).


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: froome on August 21, 2018, 07:28:23
One minor point to note was that the buses were going down roads that don't normally have bus services, so are not maintained as such. Which meant that going along the lane from Brazen Bottom down into Market Lavington, the top deck of the bus was constantly hitting the lowest tree branches, which was a bit disturbing if you had the window flap open.

Though not as disturbing as it would have been in the open top bus  >:(, which I assume wasn't used for this route.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 21, 2018, 07:58:20
Though not as disturbing as it would have been in the open top bus  >:(, which I assume wasn't used for this route.

At least one open bus went down Lavington Hill.  Pictured here from the bus behind (we caught up with it in Market Lavington village)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/im18_22.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Clan Line on August 21, 2018, 09:22:42
Some information on the actual numbers visiting Imber Church on Imber Bus day.

Last year, 3,500 visitors – helped by the special rail excursion and a nice sunny day.
This year, 1,772 visitors – not helped by the appalling unreliability of the rail service at present !
Sunday after the bus day, 774 visitors (including 100 for the folk concert)
Monday, (yesterday), 223 visitors.

More details on Imber Church and this August’s open times are available here:  http://www.imberchurch.org.uk/index.html

Many thanks to Neil Skelton for supplying me with the visitor numbers.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: martyjon on August 21, 2018, 10:30:30
I didn't realise that the roads across the Imber Range are open all this week until the 25th so I might drive over one day this week and take photos of my Ford Fusion with hulks of the tanks, the danger signs, the Imber buildings and the church as backgrounds to my piccys. 


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: martyjon on August 21, 2018, 13:32:25
Just picked up this article in todays Independent ;-

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/motoring/features/on-the-road-to-nowhere-a-routemaster-trip-to-remember-9692436.html


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: froome on August 21, 2018, 14:54:49
Just picked up this article in todays Independent ;-

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/motoring/features/on-the-road-to-nowhere-a-routemaster-trip-to-remember-9692436.html

It's a shame there are several factual errors early on in it. And where did 'the rain keeps on falling' bit come from  :(?


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: rogerw on August 21, 2018, 15:14:42
If you look at the date on the article it is clear why the reference to rain is there.  It is dated August 2014


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: froome on August 21, 2018, 17:09:07
If you look at the date on the article it is clear why the reference to rain is there.  It is dated August 2014

Ah I was misled by martyjon's use of the word 'today'.  ;D


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: martyjon on August 21, 2018, 17:12:38
If you look at the date on the article it is clear why the reference to rain is there.  It is dated August 2014

I'll hold my hands up and confess I only read the Tuesday part of the date before posting the link but on reading the article thought this is old stuff re-cycled and then NEVER re-checked the actual article date. sorry.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: JayMac on August 21, 2018, 20:24:46
I didn't realise that the roads across the Imber Range are open all this week until the 25th so I might drive over one day this week and take photos of my Ford Fusion with hulks of the tanks, the danger signs, the Imber buildings and the church as backgrounds to my piccys. 

I'm planning on taking a drive to Imber on Friday afternoon.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: martyjon on December 22, 2018, 12:39:09
Haven't seen this little "ALL tHE STATIONS" duos film report on this years event back in August until earlier today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdNwwAXKCUM


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Western Pathfinder on December 22, 2018, 18:55:32
If you watch the above little film from Geof and Vicky you can play spot Western Pathfinder!..


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on December 22, 2018, 19:43:59
If you watch the above little film from Geof and Vicky you can play spot Western Pathfinder!..

Finding the path from the church down to the bus stop, and just about to make a western passage of Chris and Vicki


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Western Pathfinder on December 22, 2018, 21:38:07
That's one and at the risk of sounding rather like Where's Wally I do turn up one more time.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Clan Line on December 25, 2018, 19:08:26
Access to Imber village/Church over the Christmas & New Year period.

http://www.imberchurch.org.uk/events.html


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: rogerw on February 04, 2019, 21:15:09
This year's event is on 17 August.  Put it in your diary.  Also the LT 4TC unit will be visiting Warminster on a UK Railtours special.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: hoover50 on February 04, 2019, 22:05:03
Also the LT 4TC unit will be visiting Warminster on a UK Railtours special.
I wonder what class of loco will haul it??


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: rogerw on February 05, 2019, 09:42:21
GBRf class 73s front and back are probable.  No push-pull working.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: RobT on February 05, 2019, 10:35:59
GBRf class 73s front and back are probable.  No push-pull working.

Probably. They are using 73s with the same set on trips to Swanage.

https://www.ukrailtours.com/product/by-routemaster-to-the-lost-village-of-imber/


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Clan Line on February 05, 2019, 21:21:25
I don't know how long the UKrailtours trip has been advertised - but have just been informed from a very reliable source that the Imber bus day was actually only confirmed yesterday. Also due to a lot of extra military training (so the MoD say ) the roads/Imber will only be open for a total of 5 days in August. My source of info was unaware of the rail trip.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Western Pathfinder on June 27, 2019, 19:11:32
Imber is on TV as I type Michael Portillo hidden history of Britain channel five 7 till 8 pm .


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on June 27, 2019, 19:35:23
Imber is on TV as I type Michael Portillo hidden history of Britain channel five 7 till 8 pm .

Just watching it - tnx


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on July 11, 2019, 12:55:22
As well as Saturday 17th August,  I undertstand there will be a limited service from Warminster to Imber on Sunday 18th August this year.

Good to see public transport improvements on a Sunday.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: ChrisB on July 19, 2019, 11:35:57
From the Imber Bus newsletter

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Imberbus is running next month !
by The Imberbus Crew

This year, the Imberbus service to the lost village of Imber will be running on Saturday 17th August and it is already promising to be a popular event, with a charter train and an overnight music festival expected to bring extra people eager to travel on our buses across Salisbury Plain.

We therefore have more than 25 old and new Routemaster buses lined up to provide this year's service which will run every 15 minutes from Warminster Station to Imber from 9.45am onwards. On arrival at Imber, some buses will then carry on to our new interchange point at Gore Cross, from where they will continue twice an hour either to New Zealand Farm Camp,.Tilshead & Chitterne, or to Brazen Bottom and Market Lavington.

In addition to the 16th century St.Giles' Church at Imber that will be open that weekend, there will again be the opportunity for our passengers to visit the Market Lavington Museum, which is located along side Market Lavington Church and opening specially for our event.  In addition to exhibiting local artifacts, the museum will also be serving cream teas which have proved to be a popular attraction in previous years. Light refreshments will also be available at Imber Church and the buffet at Warminster Station and in the village halls in both Tilshead and Chitterne.

This year our event also coincides with the Delaware Road festival, which is an overnight event for electronic music lovers that is being held at New Zealand Farm Camp.  Imberbus will be providing transport to/from Warminster for those attending this event and this means that we will also be able to operate a small number of journeys between Warminster and Imber only on Sunday 18th August. Therefore if you are unable to join us on the Saturday,.or simply wish to spend an hour wandering around Imber village and its Church when there are fewer people around, please join us at Warminster Station on the Sunday at 10am, 11am, 12noon or 1pm and we will be happy to carry you up to Imber on one of our buses.

Further details about this year's Imberbus event can be found on our website at www.imberbus.wordpress.com (http://www.imberbus.wordpress.com), including maps, timetables, fares and details of how to get to Warminster Station. If this is your first visit to Imber, we strongly recommend that you take a look at our Frequently Asked Questions page, which provides important information on where you can and cannot go, where you can get something to eat and also the location of public toilets (which are few and far between on the Salisbury Plain!).

IMPORTANT - If you are planning on bringing a group of people to Warminster in a bus or coach, please contact us immediately as there are very few coach parking facilities available in Warminster.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: Clan Line on August 17, 2019, 12:11:18
London Transport's 4TC unit, topped with a Class 33 and tailed with a Class 73 leaves Warminster this morning, for Westbury, after dropping off its passengers for this year's Imberbus event.
Warminster Station was very busy, a lot of people arriving by the service trains as well as the charter.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Sx2WxVRb/JWN06497-V2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 17, 2019, 14:45:39
Just back into the land of WiFi and mobile phone signals!

Picture is Chitterne ... lots more to share when I hit home.  Currently waiting on the platform at Westbury amongst the throbbing of ticking over turbos!

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i_2090817_01.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: Clan Line on August 17, 2019, 19:59:59
Homeward bound ! - under darkening skies. Approaching Norton Bavant.

(https://i.postimg.cc/kMkWXLMp/JWN06561-copy.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: Robin Summerhill on August 17, 2019, 20:45:47
i@ve been to Imber a few times over the years but I have never known is as busy as it was today. Perhaps this charter goes some, but not all of the way, to explaining it.

How many of "us" were up there? Graham was there, martyjon said he was going, but I didn't see anybody I knew!


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 17, 2019, 21:14:53
There were 60 on the train off Melksham at 09:02, and a good number of them transferred to the Waterloo (for Warminster) - clearly their first train trip.  Some admitted seeing it on social media.  A tiny drop in the ocean for the day as a whole, of course.

Just been going through - missed you, Robin - saw 10 people I knew; only a couple of Coffee Shop members - mostly bus folks as you might expect at a bus-y day. 


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: chuffed on August 17, 2019, 21:21:17
Chuffed and trainer were there. Held up in the jam at the new Gore Cross bus station ...had to been seen to be believed ...where too many motorists wanted to park in the bus station. Apart from that, it was a great day out, and everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves immensely...drivers,clippies,passengers. I would be interested to know the final figure of profits donated to charity. It would be nice to think they could break the £15k barrier for the first time.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 17, 2019, 21:30:16
More Pix

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(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i_2090817_04.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i_2090817_05.jpg)

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More of a queueing issue at places than a bus capacity issue.    Two on most if not all duties;   first often left full but the relief usually had space.   Then you had the fussy so-and-sos who wanted to ride on particular buses.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: Clan Line on August 17, 2019, 22:17:36
I would be interested to know the final figure of profits donated to charity. It would be nice to think they could break the £15k barrier for the first time.

I should be able to get those figures for you - it might take a few days.................

a. To collate all the figures
b. So those involved can put their feet up for a while after a very busy few days.

Re Grahame's first Pix - I hope that queue wasn't for the porta-loos !!!


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: martyjon on August 18, 2019, 07:01:05
First video has appeared on Youtube at :-
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnznikV75H4


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: martyjon on August 18, 2019, 07:06:11
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Re Grahame's first Pix - I hope that queue wasn't for the porta-loos !!!

No, but not much shorter.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: Reginald25 on August 18, 2019, 07:11:26
Lets hope today (Sunday) will be as successful, albeit lower key. I've never been to Imber so something new to explore local;ly.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 18, 2019, 07:17:03
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Re Grahame's first Pix - I hope that queue wasn't for the porta-loos !!!

No, but not much shorter.

Now to be fair - the publicity / timetable leaflet that was being handed out did point out the lack of permanent loos in Imber and suggested you go just off the plain.

Tea, coffee, soft drinks were being served in the church - also a long queue.  I suspect the overall inward and outward flow (drinks being sold and loo capacity) was broadly in balance in litres per minute.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: martyjon on August 18, 2019, 07:18:28
How many of "us" were up there? Graham was there, martyjon said he was going, but I didn't see anybody I knew!

Yea, I wer ther, saw G thrice and DR wer ther too looking much better than when I saw him a week ago.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: CyclingSid on August 18, 2019, 07:39:29
Did wonder what the "strange" train the Cross Country I was on passed between Winchester and Basingstoke yesterday afternoon. I now know, the Imber Charter. I hope you all enjoyed yourselves, I was inconvenienced elsewhere by not checking the tides (just involved a detour).


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: martyjon on August 18, 2019, 07:46:20
Late News.

Buses to Imber this Sunday

If you want to visit the lost village of Imber but were unable to travel with us on Saturday, we will also be running a few buses to between Warminster and Imber this Sunday (18th August 2019).

These will depart from Warminster Station at 10am, 11am, 12 noon and 1pm, returning from Imber at 10.25am, 11.25am, 12.25pm, 1.25pm, 2.25pm and 4.30pm (there will not be a bus from Imber at 3.30pm).

Imber will be a lot quieter on Sunday and the 16th Century St.Giles Church will be open from 11am until 3.30pm if you want a leisurely walk round. Single fares from Warminster to Imber will be £3 each way for adults and £1 for children - please pay the conductor on the bus in cash (there is no need to book but we regret that we cannot accept bus passes or credit cards).

Buses from Delaware Road

If you are returning from the Delaware Road Festival, we will also be running buses from New Zealand Farm Camp back to Warminster at 10am, 11am, 12 noon, 1pm and 2pm.

Afternoon Mystery Tour to unexplored parts of Salisbury Plain

On Sunday afternoon we hope to run a circular mystery tour using vintage Routemaster buses, from Warminster Station to a part of Salisbury Plain that has rarely, if ever, been seen by the general public and certainly not by double decker bus!  This will depart at 3pm and is expected to arrive back into Warminster at approximately 5pm.  You can also join the tour at Imber at 2.25pm and we will drop you off again there 2 hours later.

Tickets for this journey will cost £10 for adults and £1 for accompanied children - please pay the conductor on the bus in cash (there is no need to book but we regret that we cannot accept bus passes or credit cards). This ticket can also be purchased and used to travel on the buses from Warminster to Imber in the morning).

We look forward to seeing you on Sunday.

The Imberbus Crew | 17 August 2019 at 4:00 pm


Above edited version of link below:-
 
https://imberbus.wordpresscom/2019/08/17/buses-to-imber-this-sunday/



Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: Clan Line on August 18, 2019, 09:36:08

https://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/17844351.thousands-visitors-flocked-see-abandoned-village-imber/


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: Clan Line on August 18, 2019, 18:33:59
Some idea of numbers at Imber this week. Logged at the church.

Thurs: 650
Fri:     350  (in dreadful weather !)
Sat:    Automatic counting system was just overwhelmed with the numbers entering the church. Estimated to be 5000 +.
Sun:   I was in the church at 3:30pm - still very busy.

I think all those who gave their time over the weekend deserve a big cheer for a brilliantly organised event !


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 19, 2019, 05:40:04
Sat:    Automatic counting system was just overwhelmed with the numbers entering the church. Estimated to be 5000 +.

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i_2090817_07.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: ChrisB on August 20, 2019, 08:56:36
I think the general 'advertising' on various fora caused the peak in numbers - glad (not) to see any complaints about the queues. But I doubt many more could be realistically 'comfortable', and would suggest that little 'advertising' next year. or numbers will swamp available loos/buses/etc.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on August 20, 2019, 09:58:32
I think the general 'advertising' on various fora caused the peak in numbers - glad (not) to see any complaints about the queues. But I doubt many more could be realistically 'comfortable', and would suggest that little 'advertising' next year. or numbers will swamp available loos/buses/etc.

This year for - I think - the first time there was a limited Sunday service; a question of forecasting to match supply and demand, though noting that supply is limited by volunteer availability.  And then the weather makes a difference too.  They did fine and I'm sure will tune for next year.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: martyjon on August 20, 2019, 10:54:45
The Sunday service was in the main supplied to convey participants in the Delaware Road Music Festival which took place at the New Zealand Camp Farm overnight 17/18 August with the Sunday service being between Warminster Station and Imber only. An extra for the Sunday was a 23C service which was reputedly to cover the whole of the training ranges Perimeter Road which I hope might become a feature in next years and future years events.

All in all a wonderful day in fine weather and got given  my first chrissy pres for this Christmas, IMBERBUS the first 10 years published for this the tenth anniversary of this event, bit pricey at a tenner but the proceeds are going to good causes, keeping the Church at Imber in good repair, Help for Heroes and for this year a prearranged fixed donation to Stagecoach's chosen charity for 2019, a charity which is supportive of cancer in children.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: Reginald25 on August 20, 2019, 15:42:19
Sunday event was well supported, perhaps a little low key compared to Saturday. Buses were doing the loop to New Zealand as well as shuttles to Warminster station.
Had to travel to Trowbridge to get train to Warminster , none at MKM, but that's another story.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: CyclingSid on August 21, 2019, 07:10:39
Pedant mode!

The event was at New Zealand Farm Camp. This is what the MoD calls it, and what the Ordnance Survey called it until its most recent edition. Not sure why OS suddenly took to transposing the last two words.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: ChrisB on August 28, 2019, 10:42:30
From the Wiltshire Times (https://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/17863132.2019-imber-bus-tours-raise-nearly-25-000-charities/)

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THE organisers of the bus trips to Imber for the open days on August 17 and 18 say the event has raised nearly £25,000 for charity.

Martin Curtis, managing director of the Bath Bus Company, which supplied some of the modern buses for the weekend, said he was “absolutely astonished” by how much they have raised.

“We have nearly doubled what we raised last year when we collected £13,000 for charity,” he said.

“No-one is more surprised than me at how successful it has been this year. I have been absolutely astonished by the reaction from the public this year.”

 "We organised 12,000 passenger journeys and had an excursion train come in from London with 200 people on board. It's difficult to say how many visitors we had because some people came in cars."

The proceeds will be split between the Friends of St Giles’s Church and the Royal British Legion Poppy Appeal, with £2,000 also going to Macmillan Cancer Support.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: martyjon on August 28, 2019, 11:37:12
From the Wiltshire Times (https://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/17863132.2019-imber-bus-tours-raise-nearly-25-000-charities/)

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THE organisers of the bus trips to Imber for the open days on August 17 and 18 say the event has raised nearly £25,000 for charity.

Martin Curtis, managing director of the Bath Bus Company, which supplied some of the modern buses for the weekend, said he was “absolutely astonished” by how much they have raised.

“We have nearly doubled what we raised last year when we collected £13,000 for charity,” he said.

“No-one is more surprised than me at how successful it has been this year. I have been absolutely astonished by the reaction from the public this year.”

 "We organised 12,000 passenger journeys and had an excursion train come in from London with 200 people on board. It's difficult to say how many visitors we had because some people came in cars."

The proceeds will be split between the Friends of St Giles’s Church and the Royal British Legion Poppy Appeal, with £2,000 also going to Macmillan Cancer Support.


A fantastic amount on a fantastic day.

Haven't seen it mentioned on this forum that the £2000 donation to Macmillan Cancer Support was to recognize Stagecoach's contribution to the event as Macmillan Cancer Support is their charity of the year.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on February 15, 2020, 17:34:02
Imber Bus Day 2020 will be Saturday 15th August.

From the Imber village Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/ImberVillage/posts/1254778324715792

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NOTE!!! (needed to happen due to numbers)
Saturday 15th August: Imber Bus Day. BUT for this day only access to Imber will be by the timetabled buses only. No cars, bicycles or pedestrians. This rule will be rigorously enforced.

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Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: ChrisB on February 15, 2020, 21:06:04
I hope everyone doesn’t wait to travel on the last bus then. Wonder how they’ll handle that?


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: martyjon on February 18, 2020, 10:00:14
This years event will take place on Saturday August 15th and this year it will be an Imber Car Free Day with only the buses a
llowed around the roads around Imber. Further details Google IMBERBUS.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on February 18, 2020, 10:14:44
I hope everyone doesn’t wait to travel on the last bus then. Wonder how they’ll handle that?

Logically "no problem" ... in previous years there's been no issue with overcrowded final buses to my knowledge - so I don't see there will be this year.   Or are the displaced car drivers forced onto the bus a completely different breed to those of us who use the buses each year?   Planning a firework event at the end of the day would cause an issue, but no-one is suggesting that, I don't think.

This years event will take place on Saturday August 15th and this year it will be an Imber Car Free Day with only the buses allowed around the roads around Imber. Further details Google IMBERBUS.

Indeed.    Some doubt around the "only" - it's a simplification.  Military vehicles will still be allowed. Not sure about people who volunteer to open/close the church; almost certainly emergency services on a call should and will be allowed if necessary, and I would suspect St. John's Ambulance and routine police will be allowed.

For the visitors, at this point sources vary.   One suggests "no vehicles other than buses" and another "no pedestrians, no cycles, no cars".  So not sure if you can walk in/out. I wouldn't be surprised to see cycles allowed.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: rogerw on April 04, 2020, 15:04:10
This year's event now cancelled


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on April 04, 2020, 15:26:13
This year's event now cancelled

Thanks for the alert. I have taken the event off the diary ... here's the full email from the Imberbus people.

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Imberbus is taking a break this year

by Webmaster

Although we are obviously hoping that Coronavirus restrictions will have been relaxed by the summer, it is obvious that the Covid-19 pandemic is going to have a serious effect on all our lives for many, many weeks.

It is clearly impossible to predict what the exact position will be in August and during the next few months, most of those who help us put the event on will have more important things to do, both personally and at work.  In addition, many of the organisations that support us with money, people’s time, vehicles, fuel and supplies are going to find it difficult to survive, let alone be as helpful and generous as they normally are.

It is therefore with great regret that we have taken the decision to cancel this year's Imberbus event now, so we can give plenty of notice to everyone concerned.

Rest assured, however, that we only view this as a temporary break and we will certainly be pursuing the concept of a car-free day at Imber next year. Once we have been able to agree suitable arrangements with the MoD we will, of course, contact you again to let you know the new date and publish details on our website - http://www.imberbus.org .

Regards

The Imberbus Crew


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: CyclingSid on December 04, 2020, 06:55:58
No Imber bus in 2020, but a coffee table book to make up?

https://www.dewilewis.com/products/the-plain (https://www.dewilewis.com/products/the-plain)

Photographs are excellent. Only one actually in Imber, but others you might remember if you did the various bus routes. Covers West, Central and East parts of the Training Area. Apart from the cover, virtually all are sunshine or clear skies, none of that all to common Salisbury Plain rain. Life has obviously advanced since I was in; Portaloos! we just irrigated the undergrowth.

Waterstone's in Salisbury has copies in stock.

No, I guessed very few of the pictures on the web site.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: Marlburian on December 04, 2020, 09:26:59
Impressive. I can't place where the photograph of the water tower was taken - I'm guessing that it's in the eastern sector, between Everleigh and Bulford Camp.

(I've cycled and walked on most of the rights-of-way on the Plain.)

 


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: Marlburian on December 04, 2020, 10:49:51
I posted my query on the Great War Forum, where two people informed me that the water tower is close to Tilshead, with one providing this link (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.2273303,-1.9676854,3a,75y,177.33h,88.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0EFnGcYI2YmyjPz-ntRyLA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) to Google Maps.

It's 30 years since I cycled along that stretch of road, since when I've had no cause to drive along it.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on December 06, 2020, 19:45:48
Yes - exactly there.

(I cycled past it a couple of months ago while riding the new King Alfred's Way (https://www.cyclinguk.org/king-alfreds-way).)


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: rogerw on June 24, 2021, 11:27:36
Now confirmed that Imber bus will be running on August 21st only. No Sunday running this year. No car access to Imber that day. www.imberbus.org (http://www.imberbus.org)


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: rogerw on February 12, 2022, 21:40:46
This year's event will be on Saturday 20 August. Similar format to last year with no cars permitted to Imber.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: ChrisB on February 13, 2022, 08:44:25
Church and road through Imber likely open at Easter & the Queen’s jubilee weekend, although own transport will be required as no buses running


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: grahame on February 13, 2022, 09:15:22
Church and road through Imber likely open at Easter & the Queen’s jubilee weekend, although own transport will be required as no buses running.

I think you will be allowed to walk across - foot access WAS prohibited on the bus only day, but I think that was a one-off. 


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: Clan Line on February 13, 2022, 14:57:20
Church and road through Imber likely open at Easter & the Queen’s jubilee weekend, although own transport will be required as no buses running.

I think you will be allowed to walk across - foot access WAS prohibited on the bus only day, but I think that was a one-off. 

Pedant Alert !

The prohibition of foot access was not a one-off............the buses were granted access to Imber village/ranges on a day when the roads were not open to the public - on foot or on wheels.........that was the one-off. It now seems to be a two off !  After the village and the church were swamped with visitors in 2019 it was decided to try and split the Imber Bus day away from a normal open roads weekend.


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: ChrisB on February 13, 2022, 15:07:32
Pedant alert

Graham was posting in reply to my post about it open at Easter & Jubilee weekends when the roads *are* open :-)


Title: Re: Imber bus day, Salisbury Plain
Post by: Clan Line on February 13, 2022, 18:25:23

I fear that perhaps my pedantism was a little too deep. My point was that last year (and this ?) the Bus day was held on a day when the roads were not open to the public, as they always has been in the past. Foot access was not prohibited as such - all access was prohibited (as usual), unless you were travelling on the "authorised" bus service. Visitors were confined to the village.

You used *are*, in referring to future events (Easter/Jubilee); Graham used "WAS", referring to a past event (the last Bus Day).


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: ChrisB on February 13, 2022, 18:34:08
Errrr….Graham used “will”….as in “will be allowed to walk across”


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: grahame on February 13, 2022, 18:41:30
We're doing a thoroughly good job of publicity for 20th August, folks ... and for Easter and Jubilee trips to Imber too  ;D ;D


Title: Imber bus day is Saturday 20th August
Post by: infoman on July 04, 2022, 02:05:29
https://imberbus.org/imberbus-2022/


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: CyclingSid on July 15, 2022, 07:00:17
The planned national rail strike on 20th August will not help Imber Bus and the charities it supports. Another thin year for Imber church and service charities.


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: grahame on July 15, 2022, 07:27:17
The planned national rail strike on 20th August will not help Imber Bus and the charities it supports. Another thin year for Imber church and service charities.

The rail strikes have significant collateral damage, and that includes to natural friends and natural friendships.   Scope for two separate extra threads - one pointing out the generality of the damage done, and another looking at opportunities still to be taken ... but would that latter feel like we're re-arranging the deckchairs while ignoring the fact the ship is potentially seriously holed?


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: grahame on July 24, 2022, 17:23:35
https://imberbus.org/strike/

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You may have seen that there is a rail strike scheduled for the date of our 2022 event. However whilst this may make it difficult for some people to travel to Warminster, rest assured that Imberbus will still be running on 20th August!

In the event of the industrial action taking place, it will still be possible to travel to our event using public transport as normal scheduled bus services run to Warminster from Bath (First service D1) and from Salisbury (Beeline service 24). You can also join the Imberbus service at Tilshead by travelling from Salisbury on Salisbury Reds service 2. Alternatively, if you are travelling from Swindon or Chippenham, you can take service 49 or 33 to Devizes, then catch bus 2 or 270 to West Lavington, which is served by Imberbuses twice per hour.

We are also investigating the possibility of express coaches running from London to the event and looking at whether extra parking can be provided on the edge of Warminster. Further details of these additional arrangements will be published on this website in early August and notified to everyone who has joined our email mailing list (see front page for details of how to do this).



Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: rogerw on August 11, 2022, 11:59:01
This information is now available on the web site where there is a specific "Rail Strike" page. I have reserved a space on the coach from Bristol.


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: grahame on August 11, 2022, 12:08:53
This information is now available on the web site where there is a specific "Rail Strike" page. I have reserved a space on the coach from Bristol.

Interesting to look through that page and see no fewer that 10 different operators providing service - some special and and some regular - and a suggestion that you use a Wiltshire Day Rover ticket.   Personally, I'll probably take a trip via Lavington and use my ENCTS card.


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: chuffed on August 11, 2022, 13:18:53
Contrast that with the lack of shuttle buses because the  BalloonFiesta committee were not prepared to pay the £120,000 contract found for buses and drivers by Dan Norris. If  Marvin had not gone off on one of his jolly jaunts overseas, then surely that money could have been found.


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: Clan Line on August 22, 2022, 10:54:27
Today's Telegraph:

(https://i.postimg.cc/G2xsZy2m/Imber.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/r0zm4zxB)


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: Clan Line on August 22, 2022, 14:18:56
I am informed that Imber Church had 2135 visitors on the day.


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: grahame on August 22, 2022, 14:59:44
I am informed that Imber Church had 2135 visitors on the day.

And other churches struggle for even a small audience ... what does Imber have?

I gave Imber a miss this year; glad to see it went well and didn't fancy the more difficult journey to get to a point on the 23A route.  Next year, perhaps, assuming there are trains available to Warminster on the chosen day.


Title: Imber bus
Post by: rogerw on February 12, 2023, 19:44:29
Now announced as 19th August 2023. format as last year with Imber being car free


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 19, 2023, 11:12:34
Now announced as 19th August 2023. format as last year with Imber being car free

Pictures to follow.  Utter overcrowded at Warminster. Lovely buses though Not even trying to get to Imber because I've got to be home for family and by the time I get there it would have been time to come back!

Now if we could run the Imber bus to MELKSHAM Station at the other end of its route ...


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 19, 2023, 14:06:26
(https://www.wellho.info/pix/bqmn20230819.jpg)

More to follow.   More buses to follow too because they'll never all fit on there.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Marlburian on August 19, 2023, 14:59:40
"HOLIDAYMAKERS are set to return to an abandoned village in the UK, and they'll be making their way there on red double-decker buses." Article in The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/23446676/imber-wiltshire-tourists-once-year/) which also refers to "tourists"and a town hall!


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Clan Line on August 19, 2023, 15:44:29
My daughter WAS going to Imber - until she saw the queue  !!!!!

The queue appears to snake round the Argos car park then along the road outside (Fairfield Rd) then joins Station Rd (extreme left of photo) and (turns rt) up to the station bus stop !!

(https://i.postimg.cc/3NxfKpkV/Imber.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: ChrisB on August 19, 2023, 16:31:23
Imberbus were recommending a lunchtime start. This'll be why


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Mark A on August 19, 2023, 18:14:15
Realtime Trains showing a *lot* of cancellations at Warminster.

Nothing in the Salisbury direction for the two hours between 16:14 and 18:10 - and the 18:10's two carriages.

Also, nothing west from Warminster between 17:01 and 19:05 (which at least is listed as 4 carriages...)

Mark


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Mark A on August 19, 2023, 18:35:26
Ianvisits photo from Twitter showing the up platform at Warminster a little before the first train in two hours, itself slightly delayed, called.

Mark

https://twitter.com/ianvisits/status/1692949536463839382


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Trowres on August 19, 2023, 18:44:55
Around 11:00 in the morning the queue was 315 metres and still growing in length (about 350m by the time it disappeared out of sight behind Argos. From the 315m mark, it was about 45 minutes to boarding a bus.

I was lucky. Arrived back at Warminster in time for the 1703 departure (the Portsmouth to Cardiff) which was on time and 5 coaches. While all around were cancellations...



Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Mark A on August 19, 2023, 19:08:43
Ianvisits photo from Twitter showing the up platform at Warminster a little before the first train in two hours, itself slightly delayed, called.

Mark

https://twitter.com/ianvisits/status/1692949536463839382

GWR twitter advised 3 carriages on the Cardiff to Portsmouth, Realtime trains listed it as two. Running 20 minutes late it arrived into Salisbury but broke the intended connection into the 6 carriage Exeter-Waterloo train, but passengers heading for London have had only a 20 or so minute wait for the next, starting from Salisbury (though it's another three carriage set).

At Warminster, looking ahead, two sequential Cardiff trains cancelled, so, no through trains to Cardiff between 19:02 and 22:03. There are a couple of others as far as Worcester and Bristol, mind.

Mark


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 19, 2023, 20:06:55
I got to the end of the queue at 11:50, and got onto the first bus at 13:15. But an incredibly good-natured queue.  And a great day out.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Timmer on August 19, 2023, 20:18:56
Ianvisits photo from Twitter showing the up platform at Warminster a little before the first train in two hours, itself slightly delayed, called.

Mark

https://twitter.com/ianvisits/status/1692949536463839382
3 trains in a row got canned south of Westbury, two to Salisbury and one Portsmouth leaving a gap of two hours. Small wonder the platform was absolutely packed.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Timmer on August 19, 2023, 20:28:58
I was lucky. Arrived back at Warminster in time for the 1703 departure (the Portsmouth to Cardiff) which was on time and 5 coaches. While all around were cancellations...
You certainly were, the next train was the 1903 with three in between services cancelled, two from Salisbury and one from Portsmouth.

Other Cardiff to Portsmouth trains also cancelled or running short in both directions this evening. As Taplow Green remarked earlier on another thread, it’s hard to tell the difference between an overtime ban day and a ‘normal running’ day at the moment  ::)



Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 20, 2023, 10:07:32
Wonderful trip to Warminster yesterday seeing the old buses headed up to Imber.  My plan was to have brief trip onto the plain, get a cup of tea in the church and briefly say "hello" to friends there. But alas "brief" was not possible and the queue snaked down station approach and around the corner into the retails park, with reports over an hour to wait to catch a bus.  Also great reports of good humour in the bus queue and all around, and I still got a chance to meet friends also watching the queue - some joining it, some giving the plain a miss, and one driving.  Good to catch up with you all.

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(https://www.wellho.info/pix/ibd23_04.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/ibd23_05.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/ibd23_06.jpg)

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(https://www.wellho.info/pix/ibd23_09.jpg)

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Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: JayMac on August 20, 2023, 11:12:34
I understand one New Routemaster managed to ground itself taking a tight turn on the plain.

I had made tentative plans to head to Warminster for Imber yesterday but my experience with GWR & SWR trains on the previous two Saturdays rather put me off.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Clan Line on August 20, 2023, 12:21:22
I had made tentative plans to head to Warminster for Imber yesterday but my experience with GWR & SWR trains on the previous two Saturdays rather put me off.

After yesterday's abysmal performance by GWR at Warminster there must be a lot more people sharing your view of the rail companies. TEN cancellations after 4.30 pm !!!


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Trowres on August 20, 2023, 19:08:50
Two theories I have heard circulating about why this year's event was a bit too busy:

One is that the event featured in the national daily papers;

The other is that social media may have spread the event widely.

Of the two, would social media be the harder to predict the outcome?


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: ChrisB on August 20, 2023, 19:18:43
It's been building numbers for a few years now....the problem will be how to prevent even more (through word of mouth even if you don't look for media coverage - hello Paul @ BBC) and preferably lose a few....


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Timmer on August 20, 2023, 20:33:19
I’m sure GWR’s woeful efforts last evening out of Warminster in both directions would have caused a few to say ‘never again’ so that might help with the numbers next year.

Today hasn’t been any better on the Cardiff-Portsmouth line.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: CyclingSid on August 21, 2023, 07:09:34
Good to see the Londonline bus, I had heard rumours that Reading Buses would contribute.

Looks like I made a good call to go elsewhere, but there was crowding there, not quite the same scale on the Hamble ferry!


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 21, 2023, 08:20:30
For all the overcrowding, the organisation of the Imber Bus is exceptionally well done and the volunteer team that was there show just how well it can be done.  I have little doubt that there will be a wash-up analysis with a view to learning from this year in thoughts of next year.   As I never got to Imber nor the other access points at the further side of the plain, any suggestions I might make are likely to be of limited value, but I do wonder whether a pre-purchase of tickets and a second extra starting point (23B) in Warminster High Street for those ticket holders might relieve pressure at the station, where the vehicle shunting is more challenging than perhaps desirable.  I also wonder whether prebooked incoming vehicles in the morning / back in the evening could serve other stations such as Frome, Melksham, and perhaps either Grateley or Andover.   Pewsey tempting but not sure the station area could handle the buses. Westbury tempting but too attractive to the crowds in amongst the normal operations there.  Dilton Marsh - err - no - Single door, nowhere for buses, ...


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: ChrisB on August 21, 2023, 08:56:53
I'm sure that the Warminster traders in their High Street would welcome (not) queues of Imber fanatics blocking access to pavements & shops all morning?....


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 21, 2023, 09:03:14
I'm sure that the Warminster traders in their High Street would welcome (not) queues of Imber fanatics blocking access to pavements & shops all morning?....

Have you asked them? 


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: ChrisB on August 21, 2023, 09:07:04
No, and neither have you?


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 21, 2023, 09:17:04
No, and neither have you?

Agreed, but I didn't say "I'm sure", did I?


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Clan Line on August 21, 2023, 15:28:45
I'm sure that the Warminster traders in their High Street would welcome (not) queues of Imber fanatics blocking access to pavements & shops all morning?....

Bit of a double edged sword probably.  When they closed the bus station in Salisbury, the bus queues were then moved to the shopping street pavements. The camera shop I use, in Endless St (opposite the old bus station), said that some of their regulars moaned about about trying to get into the(ir ?) shop - but that the shop now had an almost day long "captive audience" outside the front window.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 21, 2023, 16:27:51
The queue didn't get as far as the High Street. From the station, down Station Road and then into Fairfield Road. The entrance to the Lidl car park was stewarded, with small groups being allowed across when it was safe.  And then into and round the edge of the Argos car park.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: ChrisB on August 21, 2023, 16:41:06
....but I do wonder whether a pre-purchase of tickets and a second extra starting point (23B) in Warminster High Street for those ticket holders might relieve pressure at the station


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Marlburian on August 21, 2023, 18:01:37
A bus-enthusiast friend of mine drove from Berkshire to Warminster and found the parking there to be chaotic with long queues all day, and he never got to ride on any buses, so "a complete  waste of  time". Last year he went by train and had problems with engineering works.

I wonder what was the motivation of all  those who did turn out? Was it the bus-fest (understandably, not that I'm an enthusiast)? Once one gets to Imber, there's not much to do for the average "holiday-maker" or "tourist", as envisaged in the Sun. Hopefully there were plenty of portaloos?

My first visit was c1962. (I don't think the "modern" breezeblock buildings had been built then, though the Baptist Chapel still stood.) Since then I've returned several times, usually sharing the village with a dozen or two others.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 21, 2023, 20:19:56
A bus-enthusiast friend of mine drove from Berkshire to Warminster and found the parking there to be chaotic with long queues all day, and he never got to ride on any buses, so "a complete  waste of  time". Last year he went by train and had problems with engineering works.

I wonder what was the motivation of all  those who did turn out? Was it the bus-fest (understandably, not that I'm an enthusiast)? Once one gets to Imber, there's not much to do for the average "holiday-maker" or "tourist", as envisaged in the Sun. Hopefully there were plenty of portaloos?

Good questions - poll added for those who went AND those who did not!


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: johnneyw on August 21, 2023, 20:42:58
I put "some other reason" because I get my fix of vintage buses each September at the Kingsbidge bus running day especially as I spend quite a lot of my time in the area....not least that month.
I've still got Imber on my radar though, if just for the sake of variety.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: grahame on August 22, 2023, 05:24:13
Good questions - poll added for those who went AND those who did not!

This is the first time that I can recall I have added a poll onto an old thread - and THANK YOU to those who have already gone back and voted.  This follow up post is a "bump" to bring it to more attention, though actually it's done remarkably well overnight.

As clarified yesterday, I am not associated with the organising and staffing team in any way (though I know a number of people who are) so these inputs are not directly going to inform, but it's likely they will be read by some people who are. I suspect the results will not be news to them, but never the less interesting - and also interesting to the rest of us who may sometimes help get people onto public transport in its various forms.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: bobm on August 22, 2023, 06:13:35
The organisers have said over £38,000 was raised at this year’s event. 


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Marlburian on August 22, 2023, 11:21:39
I voted for the first two options, then for the penultimate one, so rather contradicted myself. I don't like crowds, and have memories of my very first visit when my parents drove me there when it was open. We were the only people there, so it was very atmospheric - and there were remains of rather more houses.

Time was when visitors were cautioned about leaving the main village street except to take the path to the church because of various hazards, with an NCO cautioning that future access might be prevented if people strayed. I guess that on the bus day visitors were wandering all over the place.

Had I been there on the bus day I would have certainly looked at the vehicles, but the mass assembly would not have tempted me to make a special journey.


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Clan Line on August 22, 2023, 15:50:34
https://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/23738004.wiltshire-village-imber-overwhelmed-10-000-visitors-open-day/


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: rogerw on August 22, 2023, 17:23:46
I couldn't attend this year as i was on my way back from Switzerland (by rail)


Title: Re: Imber bus
Post by: Marlburian on August 28, 2023, 18:00:59
I was in Imber this morning (the 28th) and by midday it was quite busy - perhaps 80 cars, including a vintage one, and lots of cyclists (not so much of the Lycra type, more tourists and recreational riders, and including quite a few children). There were refreshments and several stalls in the church. Volunteers, presumably, had done an excellent job of taping off no-go areas and putting up information boards. One of the leading lights acknowledged that the turn-out for the bus day had been overwhelming and that the organisers would be reviewing the situation with the military.

Incidentally the 14th and 15th Canadian Field Companies, Canadian Engineers, were in the Tilshead-Chitterne area in mid-1917, building and repairing roads and laying tramlines and railways (presumably of narrow gauge to facilitate the transport of stores and shells to Chapperton Down, (part of the Imber ranges). In their war diaries are references to the latter being laid at Five Down Dump, Hoopers Hollow and Middle Barn, this last being on the Tilshead-Chitterne road and referred to as the "Middle Barn Artillery Training Camp".




Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: grahame on February 19, 2024, 03:27:47
The date is set for Imberbus 2024 !

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The Imberbus Crew

We are pleased to announce that this year, we are planning to run the Imberbus service on

Saturday 17th August 2024

when several vintage former London Transport Routemaster buses (plus a few newer ones) will again provide a bus service from Warminster Station to Imber and other isolated locations on the Salisbury Plain between 10am and 6pm.

Once again our event will be a Car Free Day, with the only access to Imber on 17th August being on the buses operating the Imberbus service. These special arrangements successfully eliminated the severe traffic congestion that we experienced around Imber in 2019, but they do mean that there are some restrictions on what you can and cannot do when you get there, details of which will be confirmed during the summer.


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: rogerw on August 05, 2024, 13:29:31
Just a reminder that this is 12 days away (17 August)


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: grahame on August 16, 2024, 07:39:43
Just a reminder that this is 12 days away (17 August)

Now just ONE day away.  After last year's long ququququeuse at Warminster, I am planning to be there but will connecting into the bus at The Lavingtons. 

From Melksham to Devizes on the 272 bus (across the road from my home) connecting into the 3A or 3C in Devizes Market Place to Lavington, or the 2 which goes through to Salisbury and also calls at Gores Cross and Tilshead, both connecting points onto the 23A to Imber.

Remember that joining the bus away from Warminster you'll buy your ticket on the first bus from the conductor, £10 day ticket for as many journeys as you can manage, cash only.



Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: Mark A on August 16, 2024, 08:36:08
A day for which the participants particularly need Warminster's direct trains Bristol - Waterl***Thwack!!***

Mark


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: grahame on August 16, 2024, 09:43:26
A day for which the participants particularly need Warminster's direct trains Bristol - Waterl***Thwack!!***

Mark

There are direct trains from Waterloo to Warminster tomorrow at 08:50 and 17:50 (regular services that run on toward Yeovil from Westbury and do not serve stations from Trowbridge to Bristol, and there is an extra "unadvertised express" at 09:55 too that starts back at Tonbridge.

Real Time Trains shows a return services from Warminster at 17:00 via Waterloo to Tonbridge, and services at 08:18 and 11:50 which join to other trains at Salisbury and then carry on to Waterloo. 


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: Mark A on August 16, 2024, 10:35:13
Also, connections at Salisbury much improved, with fewer providing that 50 minute Salisbury experience.

Also... the Imber bus day has from time to time seen indifferent weather, but tomorrow's forecast is good.

Mark


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: Mark A on August 16, 2024, 10:40:14
*snip* ...and there is an extra "unadvertised express" at 09:55 too that starts back at Tonbridge.

Tonbridge - Waterloo - Warminster. It's good to see the railways taking advantage of that little-used spur from Waterloo East and across the concourse.

Mark


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: JayMac on August 16, 2024, 11:33:18
I shall be going. Driving to Wiltshire from Taunton.

I haven't yet decided where to park and travel from. Suggestions...

Who else from the forum is attending?


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: grahame on August 16, 2024, 11:45:02
I shall be going. Driving to Wiltshire from Taunton.

I haven't yet decided where to park and travel from. Suggestions...

Who else from the forum is attending?


Chitterne (for parking)?


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: infoman on August 16, 2024, 12:08:10
Was going to post in Portsmouth to Cardiff section although I can't find any posting about this improvement if it has I will say sorry in advance.

BBC Points west on Friday 16 August breakfast local news saying that Salisbury forecourt  area is under going improvement work
which started in July 2024 and lasting for one year.
Should be on again at 13:30pm and 18:30pm,the play again facility on local news is valid for 24 hours only.


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: rogerw on August 16, 2024, 13:28:24
The "unadvertised express" is a fully booked charter using the preserved Hastings unit


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: grahame on August 16, 2024, 13:43:48
The "unadvertised express" is a fully booked charter using the preserved Hastings unit

According to some of our members, then, that can't be a proper express - not long enough ... and with the power in the carriages.

4 + 2 half carriages of people is going to put a significant load on the buses - unless there's a White Horse option taken up by a lot of passengers of having a day in Westbury instead.

P.S. Love the Hastings units.  Not been on it, though, since the trip to Fawley Gates!


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: ChrisB on August 16, 2024, 15:45:42
*snip* ...and there is an extra "unadvertised express" at 09:55 too that starts back at Tonbridge.

Tonbridge - Waterloo - Warminster. It's good to see the railways taking advantage of that little-used spur from Waterloo East and across the concourse.

Errr....Tonbridge - Guildford - Waterloo anyone?


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: Mark A on August 16, 2024, 17:16:21
*snip* ...and there is an extra "unadvertised express" at 09:55 too that starts back at Tonbridge.

Tonbridge - Waterloo - Warminster. It's good to see the railways taking advantage of that little-used spur from Waterloo East and across the concourse.

Errr....Tonbridge - Guildford - Waterloo anyone?

That reminds me, on a journey from Kemble to Wye, I opted to travel via Reading - Redhill - Tonbridge. (This was ages ago).

This turned out to be a poor choice, as the Reading to Redhill train failed within a signalling section and far from anything that would allow the crew to communicate, somewhere near Ash Vale.

Further complicating things, the guard was wearing fragile-ish shoes with high heels, these weren't the best footwear for a hike along the line to put down detonators and also seek help and it was a long time before the train was rescued (I can't recall how).

With Tonbridge eventually reached, British Rail were in no way motived to stop a fast train there to get things moving for the delayed passengers, so it was a bit of a wait at Tonbridge (time to enjoy the sight and sound of a Hastings diesel threading the singular overbridge there) and then on a stopper to continue along the long Redhill to Ashford straight, calling at its series of stations, rather than on a fast which, between Tonbridge and Ashford, often seemed to do everything short of breaking the sound barrier.

My arrival was somewhat later than I intended.

Mark


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: JayMac on August 16, 2024, 21:40:04
I've decided to take the train from Taunton to Warminster tomorrow. Not driving means I can have a beer or two in one of the village pubs along the Imberbus route.

Without Finn as it's forecast warm and he'll struggle with a long day out. He's an OAG now! He'll keep Mumsy company instead.


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: grahame on August 17, 2024, 07:17:29
I've decided to take the train from Taunton to Warminster tomorrow. Not driving means I can have a beer or two in one of the village pubs along the Imberbus route.

Without Finn as it's forecast warm and he'll struggle with a long day out. He's an OAG now! He'll keep Mumsy company instead.


May see you somewhere there ...  our local train operator is a none-operator again this morning and the way for me to Imber is going to be by bus all the way and not just half the way.


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: Timmer on August 17, 2024, 07:20:56
Good news there is a full service operating on the Cardiff-Portsmouth’s today.
However there are three diagrams running short formed according to JC/RTT so some trains may be a bit cozy onboard.

There are a small handful of cancellations on the Bristol-Salisbury stoppers in the morning/early afternoon.


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: IndustryInsider on August 17, 2024, 08:36:52
Lovely day for it.


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: JayMac on August 17, 2024, 09:02:27
I'm now drivng to Warminster. And Finn will be coming along. I had a late night cleaning up after a drain blockage caused a bathroom flood. Plumber call out to rod and jet the outside drains.

With back flow the stuff coming up from the shower drain wasn't pretty!


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: JayMac on August 17, 2024, 12:11:59
Busy.
(https://i.postimg.cc/BncSmPXH/IMG-20240817-121032.jpg]https://i.postimg.cc/BncSmPXH/IMG-20240817-121032.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: Timmer on August 17, 2024, 16:29:32
There are a small handful of cancellations on the Bristol-Salisbury stoppers in the morning/early afternoon.
The number of cancellations has increased to include the afternoon and evening sadly, so the Cardiff-Portsmouth’s will be taking the strain this evening for the journeys home.


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: grahame on August 17, 2024, 20:22:45
A superb day - personally not so much about all these buses but about the people.   Anyway - here are a few pictures that don't have an excess of people in them

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b01.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b02.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b03.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b04.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b05.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b06.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b07.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b08.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b09.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b10.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b11.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b12.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b13.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b14.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24b15.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: JayMac on August 17, 2024, 20:45:45
It was more about the buses than the people for me! Although I did have a nice chat with Chris Nix from the London Transport Museum. He's one of the presenters of the 'Hidden London Hangouts (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKLSoLnrWgHx5kkCaH4iF8nin1s_8taNU)' YouTube channel, as well as a contributor/historian/producer for UKTV's 'Secrets of the London Underground'. His day job is Director of Content at the London Transport Museum.

(https://i.postimg.cc/C1012qyg/IMG-20240817-125902.jpg)

I have dozens of bus pictures and videos from the day. I'll be putting together a YouTube video over the coming days and will post it here. In the meantime here's a nice pair of Bristols to gawp at. ;)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZrNt8Ph/IMG-20240817-171633-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: bobm on August 17, 2024, 20:47:59
The one on the left would lose marks for not lining up the destination blind properly.



Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: JayMac on August 17, 2024, 21:41:30
Question that's bugging me. One of the Imberbus destinations is Tilshead. How is that pronounced? is it "Tils head" or "Til Shed"  ???

Heard both today.


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: grahame on August 17, 2024, 22:05:17
Question that's bugging me. One of the Imberbus destinations is Tilshead. How is that pronounced? is it "Tils head" or "Til Shed"  ???

Heard both today.

Wikipedia do say ...

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Tilshead (/ˈtɪlshɛd/)


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: grahame on August 18, 2024, 07:12:41
To complete the story here of yesterday - people and places picture (not just buses!)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24p01.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24p02.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24p03.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24p04.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24p05.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24p06.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24z01.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24z02.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24z03.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24z04.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24z05.jpg)(https://www.wellho.info/pix/i24z06.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber bus day
Post by: Clan Line on August 19, 2024, 17:35:44
To complete the story here of yesterday ...........

..........not quite ! GWR seemed to be doing their best (again !) to "support" this fun day out. Almost total cancellation of the "local" Bristol - Salisbury trains on Saturday. According to RTT, 12 cancellations from 1340 to c.o.p.


Title: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: grahame on January 26, 2025, 06:40:31
The date for 2025 has been announced!

https://imberbus.org/2025/01/25/the-date-is-set-for-imberbus-2025/

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The date is set for Imberbus 2025 !
Posted on 25 January 2025
We are pleased to announce that this year, we are planning to run the Imberbus service on

Saturday 16th August 2025

when several vintage former London Transport Routemaster buses (plus a few newer ones) will again provide a bus service from Warminster Station to Imber and other isolated locations on the Salisbury Plain between 10am and 6pm.



Edit note: Minor typo corrected, for clarity. CfN.


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: grahame on July 28, 2025, 09:24:16
16th August 2025 ...

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Our event attracts hundreds of people and can overload the car parks in Warminster town centre if everyone tries to park there. Fortunately Warminster is well served by buses and trains from the surrounding towns, as well as cities such as Cardiff, Bristol, Bath, Salisbury, Southampton and Portsmouth and so we strongly recommend that you use these if at all possible.

These days, I hesitate to agree "well served" - the timetable is good, but recent record on actually running the trains is poor - these graphics from the last 4 weekends as I write.  And in recent years, Imber bus day has brought rather more crowds by train than the services that have run could comfortably cope with.  My personal view would be that it's fine for public transport officianados, but you'll probably be risking disappointment and frustration if you bring along family looking for a fun day out.

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/l4w250728wmn.jpg)

Having made that point, Warminster has far more trains that Melksham (a town of similiar size) in the timetable, and many fewer cancellations.

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/l4w250728mkm.jpg)


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: CyclingSid on July 29, 2025, 19:33:06
Could also do with some rain. The plain is very dry and a repeat of previous events in the year https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70nnnnz0ldo (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70nnnnz0ldo) could put the event at risk. Especially the section that goes across the top of the Larkhill/Westdown range to Brazen Bottom and the Lavingtons. The civilian Fire and Rescue Service won't get involved because the risk in military areas. I would imagine with cut backs the nearest MoD fire service will be Boscombe Down, and probably not suited to wild fires on the ranges.


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on July 29, 2025, 20:11:49
To me, that conjures up an image of an artillery officer, looking out over the range and shouting "Open fire!  No, that's not an order - it's a warning!!"  ;D



Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: grahame on August 11, 2025, 13:52:01
Love to see any other members who make Imber next Saturday (16.8.2025) - I'll be catching the bus at 09:25 from home, change onto the 2, X2, 3A or 3C in Devizes and joining the 23A at one of the Lavingtons or Gore Cross Bus Station.


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Clan Line on August 15, 2025, 11:27:03

(https://i.postimg.cc/fR608qHD/20250815-20250815-2707.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Post box topper, George St, Warminster.


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 15, 2025, 12:03:20
From the BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdd3rz8r8yno):

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Buses to run to the abandoned village of Imber

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Nearly 40 routemaster buses will be travelling around Salisbury Plain on Saturday, taking people to the abandoned village of Imber.

Owned by the Ministry of Defence (MoD), the village is only opened on certain days of the year as it is a training area.

Last year, about 4,000 people took the Imberbus trip, which raised £35,000 for charity.

The village is now abandoned after residents were evicted in 1943 to allow the military to use it for training in World War Two. It has remained empty since.

The annual Imberbus day has been going since 2009, when it started with four buses. It now includes vintage and modern red routemaster buses which are donated by companies for the day. Crews from all over the country also donate their time.

While the Imberbus will only run on Saturday, Imber village has other open days during the year where visitors have to find their own way there.

Michael Meilton is one of those overseeing the operation and said buses will start at 9:30 BST from Warminster, but also go to some nearby villages.

There will be buses leaving Warminster Station every 10 to 15 minutes and returning from Imber until 17:30 BST.

Imber will have its church open to see as well as the scenery.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/dede/live/c8bcc390-791a-11f0-902c-1f79ecbf29bb.jpg.webp)

Buses also going to Tilshead, Chitterne, New Zealand Farm Camp, West Lavington, Market Lavington and Brazen Bottom are on at least twice an hour too, with alternative parking at Chitterne.

Tea and cake is available in most of the villages, with historical displays in a couple too and an exhibition on at The Athenaeum in Warminster. Mr Meilton said some travel to multiple villages to test all the refreshments.

There are no in advance tickets - people need to turn up and pay on the day, with cash being the best option. Card payments are only available at Warminster Station. It will cost £10 for adults and £2 for children.

"What's so special is seeing the faces of people who have taken their son or grandson for a ride on the bus to Imber," added Mr Meilton.



Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: bobm on August 15, 2025, 15:52:49
I have been a couple of time before and it is a worthwhile trip, but I fear it will be too hot for me tomorrow.


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 15, 2025, 16:58:30
Love to see any other members who make Imber next Saturday (16.8.2025) - I'll be catching the bus at 09:25 from home, change onto the 2, X2, 3A or 3C in Devizes and joining the 23A at one of the Lavingtons or Gore Cross Bus Station.

I have been a couple of time before and it is a worthwhile trip, but I fear it will be too hot for me tomorrow.

I've not been able attend this event in previous years, due to my work commitments, but now that I'm retired ...  ;D

Agreed it may be hotter later in the day, so I am aiming for a morning / lunchtime excursion.  The 08:45 train from NLS should get me to WMN at 10:10, so I'll look out for you there, grahame.

CfN.  ;)


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: JayMac on August 15, 2025, 21:00:08
I'm another who would've attended were it forecast to be cooler. It wouldn't be wise to take Finn on the busy non air conditioned buses.


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 15, 2025, 21:06:53
Fair enough, Finn: we will miss you, though.  ;)


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: grahame on August 16, 2025, 06:39:34
Following on from suspicious symptoms, Lisa and I have both taken Covid tests this morning and both have come out positive - i.e. indications that we have covid.   So CANCELLING my trip to Imber for today.


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Mark A on August 16, 2025, 13:43:19
"Liked" that by accident, 'cos, sorry to see this. If either of you get the terrible sore throat, specifically Strepsils orange with vitamin 'C'. They're not an antiviral so, they shouldn't be expected to help with this, but there's science behind their effectiveness regarding the sore throat symptom.

Mark


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: grahame on August 16, 2025, 15:49:38
"Liked" that by accident, 'cos, sorry to see this. If either of you get the terrible sore throat, specifically Strepsils orange with vitamin 'C'. They're not an antiviral so, they shouldn't be expected to help with this, but there's science behind their effectiveness regarding the sore throat symptom.

Mark

Lisa is far worse throat wise that I am ... I am feeling dopey, thick, weird, frustrated and unable to settle to anything - so nothing unusual there.  Seriously keeping an eye on her.  We have cancelled / postponed a whole number of things we were looking at doing (re)starting over the next couple of weeks.

We have a variety of sweet and lozenges and powders that are primarily for Lisa,  and a supermarket delivery scheduled for tomorrow, and as it gets into a cool evening I will probably go out for a breath of fresh air.

I know I am posting in public here - so no secrets (and off topic) - but yet to friends. To say I feel perhaps happier than I have in a long while that I have far less tense / urgent coming up that has deadlines or expectations on me than I have had in a long while.  There is temptation to inform and explain many of the local issues, and indeed to suggest solutions and ways forward but I'm much more biting my tongue and moving past to other more specific stuff.  My finger remains on the pulse of the Coffee Shop servers - fascinating analysis this morning of how the AI bots are crawling us, and how we can guide / instruct / demand / force their habits. Lots of false signups but new valid ones have zeroed and that's of concern, perhaps, for the future.


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Mark A on August 16, 2025, 18:07:52
Yup... the throat... and the strepsils orange and vitamin 'c' thing. The specific mechanism is that the vitamin 'C' supplies a somewhat low pH environment for the particular antibacterial agent they contain, said environment with those ingredients causes the Covid virus to form clumps, which the body's immune system, which may have been looking past the infection, regards as highly suspicious, so it puts the virus on the "Undesirable" list and takes action against it.

My experience of it, laid low by Covid back in '21... it, plus the throat it gave me, then took me out of circulation for days on end. The painful throat meant that I didn't feel like swallowing the copious saliva I was producing, which turns out to be a good thing against the case that the stomach's acid bath is incapable of eliminating the virus.

An O₂ sats meter was useful, but the sore throat continued to be a stopper and wasn't relenting.

Eventually, reading up on the ingredients and looking out an over-the-counter medicine that contained them, took one and literally 10 minutes later the throat pain was 95% abated, not because it had been anaesthetised away but because some mechanism had been stopped in its tracks. Having vanished, it stayed vanished for some time, and then got the same treatment every time it threatened to return.

Anyway, hope you're both soon feeling a lot better.

Mark


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Clan Line on August 28, 2025, 12:57:29
LONG time since I last saw one of these !!

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Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Oxonhutch on August 28, 2025, 16:41:56
Should be towing a luggage trailer.  :)


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Clan Line on September 03, 2025, 19:41:34
Head count for Imber bus day.

Imber Church logged 3000 visitors, but thought to be a bit higher, around 3400.

The bus organisers logged about 4,000.


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 03, 2025, 19:49:23
That is excellent news, Clan Line.

Unfortunately, I for domestic reasons and grahame for covid reasons weren't able to increase those numbers by 2.

Next year, hopefully.  ;)


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Clan Line on December 13, 2025, 14:26:22
Warminster Station forecourt: pm 13 Dec 2025

I've heard of buses running late - but this is ridiculous !

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Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 14, 2025, 17:06:59
Supporting the carol service at Imber Church, apparently.


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: JayMac on December 14, 2025, 18:43:46
I want that bus's numberplate.

My initials and my day of birth.


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 14, 2025, 19:22:24
Yep: you're yet another old crock. ;D


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Oxonhutch on December 14, 2025, 20:28:54
1967?


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Clan Line on December 17, 2025, 14:33:08
I want that bus's numberplate.

My initials and my day of birth.

The bus spent much of its life in Swindon, hence the "local" number plate.


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: infoman on December 29, 2025, 07:03:39
Imber is open for business for the next four days starting 29 December.

https://www.visitwiltshire.co.uk/whats-on/imber-open-days-p2531933


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: ChrisB on December 29, 2025, 10:16:10
From the St Giles Church, Imber newsletter -

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PLEASE NOTE
We have been made aware of other web sites posting the Open Days and Events for St Giles Church and getting dates and timings wrong.  We are the only ones who negotiate directly with the Ministry of Defence to arrange Open Days and other events.  The Dates shown here are the only ones that should be regarded as Definitive.
https://www.imberchurch.org.uk/


Title: St Giles Church, Imber - Open Days, 29 Dec 2025 to 1 Jan 2026
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 29, 2025, 10:37:30
Thank you for your updates here, infoman and ChrisB.

Also to note, from the St Giles Church Imber website (https://www.imberchurch.org.uk/services.html#three):

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Please Note:  We only accept Cash for purchases in St Giles.  There are no facilities for Card Payments.

On church open days there is a wide range of Imber-related merchandise on sale, from local honey, fridge magnets, key-rings, post-cards, mugs and shopping bags. 

Please Note:  There are no bus services to Imber on normal Open Days or for any events.  Buses only run on Imberbus Day



Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: Clan Line on December 29, 2025, 21:26:31

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kppzkk7gyo


Title: Re: 16th August 2025 - Buses to Imber
Post by: ChrisB on January 01, 2026, 14:57:06
The date is set for Imberbus 2026 ! (https://imberbus.org/2026/01/01/the-date-is-set-for-imberbus-2026/)
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Posted on 1 January 2026
We are pleased to start 2026 by announcing that this year, we are planning to run the Imberbus service on

Saturday 15th August 2026

when several vintage former London Transport Routemaster double deckers (plus a few newer ones) along with some visiting buses from other areas, will again provide a bus service from Warminster Station to Imber and other isolated locations on the Salisbury Plain between 10am and 6pm.

Once again our event will be a Car Free Day, with the only access to Imber on 15th August being on the buses operating the Imberbus service. These special arrangements help to keep traffic congestion around Imber village to a minimum, but they do mean that there are some restrictions on what you can and cannot do when you get there, details of which will be confirmed during the summer.

IMG_1116-001 (1568 x 1045)The timetable for this year’s service will also be published during the summer and is expected to be very similar to the one used in 2025.


Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 01, 2026, 15:13:09
I have added the event to our Coffee Shop forum calendar.  CfN.  :)


Title: Want to be able to drive yourself to Imber?
Post by: grahame on February 11, 2026, 07:45:43
From Wilson Auctions (https://www.facebook.com/reel/33970435882572006)

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Legendary 1960s London Routemaster Buses Go Under The Hammer!

Wilsons Auctions is set to deliver a rare and historic opportunity as five authentic 1960s AEC ...


Title: Re: Want to be able to drive yourself to Imber?
Post by: ChrisB on February 11, 2026, 09:17:51
My understanding is that one can do this in your own vehicle on any other open day at Imber other than the Imber Bus day


Title: Re: Want to be able to drive yourself to Imber?
Post by: grahame on February 11, 2026, 10:02:36
My understanding is that one can do this in your own vehicle on any other open day at Imber other than the Imber Bus day

You are correct.  A "fun" headline that might have confused ...


Title: Re: Want to be able to drive yourself to Imber?
Post by: grahame on February 18, 2026, 13:20:51
Not Imber - but London (https://www.facebook.com/londonerbuses/posts/pfbid0tPqygoCzEsCJbBh4V63aXs58u3sqhz9sEHVVezW9xsQaLZ28htLv8P5qLmCGJBhdl)

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T15 HERITAGE WEEKEND (Sat 28th Feb / Sun 01 March)

SATURDAY

Buses operating upto every 15 minutes between Trafalgar Square & Tower Hill from 10:00 to 20:00hrs with standard fares & day tickets being charged - to include guest buses RTL453, RMC1513, RM1933 & evening guest appearance of MagicBus London RM2681.

SUNDAY

Charity day with buses operating upto every 10 minutes between Westminster Stn / Parliament Square & Tower Hill with over 15 buses already scheduled. First buses 09:25 from Parliament Sq & 10:00 from Tower Hill, with last buses around 17:00.

Donations being collected by the Worshipful Company of Carmen.


Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: rogerw on August 09, 2026, 13:15:55
Just to bump this up. A reminder that this year's event is this coming Saturday, 15th August


Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 09, 2026, 17:00:08
Thank you for posting that very timely reminder here, rogerw.

This time, I have every intention of actually attending that event: am I likely to meet any other Coffee Shop forum members - and indeed guest readers - there?

CfN.  :)


Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: grahame on August 09, 2026, 17:18:22
Thank you for posting that very timely reminder here, rogerw.

This time, I have every intention of actually attending that event: am I likely to meet any other Coffee Shop forum members - and indeed guest readers - there?

CfN.  :)

Yes - but not with a Warminster start:
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Local residents will also be able to to travel to Imber from Chitterne, Tilshead and the Lavingtons by paying the conductor in cash on the bus.

I can see no definition of "local residents" but in past years anyone has been able to join at Lavingon and I'm pretty sure that's how I will join this year, even though no longer a resident of East Lavington (a.k.a. Easteron). No 272 bus from across the road from us into Devizes, then 3A, 3X, 2 or X2 to Market Lavington or West Lavington.  Saves the early queues at Warminster.


Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: ChrisB on August 09, 2026, 17:50:07
My understanding is that the buses at those locations will first travel in from the Warminster area, so you may not get such an early start as at Warminster area. That may not bother you.

The reason the say local residents is that there is no car parking provided, so they want those local enough to be able to catch a bus there to to do that or park in Warminster


Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 09, 2026, 18:00:32
If I may also offer a timely reminder here, the whole event will be 'cash only', with no card transactions possible, due to the very seasonal nature of this event.

CfN.  ;)



Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: ChrisB on August 09, 2026, 18:02:40
Except for your bus ticket which may be bought by card at Warminster station ticket box.

Once on site, there's no wi-fi possible & don't expect much mobile coverage either


Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 10, 2026, 16:20:02
Thanks for your update, ChrisB.

I understand that the erstwhile village church in Imber will be filled with stalls offering all sorts of souvenirs for the event. SWMBO, who is an avid collector of fridge magnets, has instructed me to purchase some, so I'm collecting all of our loose coins here (it will be cash only) to do so.

See you there on Saturday!  :)


Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: grahame on August 10, 2026, 18:01:10
Personal plans - to catch the regular bus to Market Lavington and then the 10:25 or 10:55 from there

Thank you for posting that very timely reminder here, rogerw.

This time, I have every intention of actually attending that event: am I likely to meet any other Coffee Shop forum members - and indeed guest readers - there?

CfN.  :)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/tolav26.jpg)

The 3A would connect for me at West Lavington.    Illustrates rather than we do have a good selection of buses around on a Saturday morning, none of which understand the term "clock face".


Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 10, 2026, 18:34:10
Hmm.  My train from NLS at 08:45 to WMN (via BRI) should get me there at 10:10.

We can then meet up somewhere in Warminster, before yomping (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yomp) over those artillery ranges to Imber.

(No, actually: we'll get on one of the buses - even though it will be less exciting. ;) )

CfN.  ;)


Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: grahame on August 10, 2026, 18:44:27
To meet up, Imber Church is always very busy with long queues on bus days, though worthwhile for me anyway to spend some time there and catch up very briefly with old friends.    Does anyone fancy choosing / recommending anywhere that might be slightly quieter even on this day?

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Imber Church open for viewing and refreshments from 10am to 6pm;

The refurbished Market Lavington Museum will be open again in the Old School House next to the village church and serving cream teas until 5pm;

Light refreshments also available at the village halls in Tilshead and Chitterne, at St.Arbucks Community Coffee House in Market Lavington and also in Warminster at the Beans & Bits Cafe at Warminster Station and at the Chapel of St. Lawrence on the High Street.

Public houses will also be available at Warminster, Market Lavington and West Lavington, along with the reopened Kings Head at Chitterne.

A small transport sales stall will be available inside Tilshead village hall.

Exhibition of Imber and Imberbus related cartoons at Warminster Library and a Dinosaur trail around the town for families to follow.

Performances by the Bratton Silver Band, plus displays by the London Transport Museum and the Thames Valley & Great Western Omnibus Trust.

Morris Dancing at Imber (1000-1100), Market Lavington Museum & The Green Man (1200-1400) and Tilshead (1500-1600).


Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 10, 2026, 20:09:29
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Public houses will also be available at Warminster, Market Lavington and West Lavington, along with the reopened Kings Head at Chitterne.
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Morris Dancing at Imber (1000-1100), Market Lavington Museum & The Green Man (1200-1400) and Tilshead (1500-1600).

That's all fine with me - but I will still need to purchase some fridge magnets. ::) ;D



Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 10, 2026, 20:59:13
This has now become a very significant topic here on the Coffee Shop forum.

I have moved and merged several previous topics here, which all relate specifically to the subject of 'Imber Bus' events. This is therefore our definitive topic on that subject, including all historic posts: as ever, nothing has been deleted, and the original post headings have been preserved wherever possible.

I continue to look forward to meeting some of you at Imber on Saturday.  :)



Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: Clan Line on August 11, 2026, 10:37:49
Does anyone fancy choosing / recommending anywhere that might be slightly quieter even on this day?

Westbury White Horse is always a good place to go. Great views (of trains too !), White Horse & Bratton Camp to explore, watch the suicidal hang-gliding people throwing themselves off the escarpment, lots of birds of prey, plenty of free parking, you sometimes see RAF A400Ms flying by - BELOW you ! .............and there is usually an ice cream van in attendance.

I believe the area behind the car park is a free running area for dogs unlike the White Horse and Camp area where there are often sheep.


Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: PhilWakely on August 11, 2026, 12:10:09
Does anyone fancy choosing / recommending anywhere that might be slightly quieter even on this day?

Westbury White Horse is always a good place to go. Great views (of trains too !), White Horse & Bratton Camp to explore, watch the suicidal hang-gliding people throwing themselves off the escarpment, lots of birds of prey, plenty of free parking, you sometimes see RAF A400Ms flying by - BELOW you ! .............and there is usually an ice cream van in attendance.

I believe the area behind the car park is a free running area for dogs unlike the White Horse and Camp area where there are often sheep.

Wonderful views on a sunny day, but the wind is biting!


Title: Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
Post by: grahame on August 11, 2026, 13:38:54
Does anyone fancy choosing / recommending anywhere that might be slightly quieter even on this day?

Westbury White Horse is always a good place to go. Great views (of trains too !), ....

Indeed, but it's miles from where the Routemaster buses will be, which I suspect many members will be reaching by train or (in my case) connecting bus.


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: grahame on August 13, 2026, 14:55:23
35 degrees today (13th) and I am defensibly staying at home.  Weather forecast is 30 degrees tomoorow, and 25 on Saturday which should be good for the Imber Bus.   I will be carrying a bottle of water never the less.   Plans such that if the forecast changes and the temperature is higher than what I regard as safe for me, I'll change plans and not toddle along.   Others - please judge it for your own wellbeing.


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 13, 2026, 15:11:54
I agree with all of that, grahame.

I still intend to attend - with a rucksack containing substantial volumes of mineral water, Ordnance Survey maps - and a towel for mopping my heated brow.

Looking forward to it!  ;)

CfN.  :)


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: bobm on August 13, 2026, 15:48:56
As my mother used to say, even on the hottest days, "Haven't you packed a jumper/raincoat just in case."   There was never a suggestion of carrying water in those days.   How did we survive?   ;D


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: grahame on August 14, 2026, 19:01:23
If you are bringing younger family members and / or partners tomorrow:

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Warminster has become Roarminster (https://warminster-tc.gov.uk/community/roarminster/), with a dinosaur takeover.

Warminster Town Council and the Warminster Business Network (WBN) has created a fun dinosaur trail, transforming the town with six dinosaur models installed at five locations until Saturday 5th September.

Visitors and residents will be encouraged to explore the town, find and learn about the different dinosaurs, enter a prize draw and take part in fun activities with a full programme of dinosaur events planned throughout the summer holidays.


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 14, 2026, 19:08:05
Will there be any dinosaur fridge magnets available?  :P


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: TaplowGreen on August 14, 2026, 20:44:57
One can only hope that there are no crew shortages, and that there are not more buses than usual requiring repairs at the same time.


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: grahame on August 15, 2026, 06:15:27
One can only hope that there are no crew shortages, and that there are not more buses than usual requiring repairs at the same time.

The only crew shortage around this morning ...

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14:19 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58

15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

I suspect that there IS enough crew around - just not enough with the route knowdlege.

Thank goodness that root knowledge with experience in the prior 6 months is NOT a requirement on route 23A which runs from Warminster, via Imber to Gore's Cross, journeys on to Brazen Bottom, Chitterne and New Zealand Camp.


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: Clan Line on August 15, 2026, 18:24:36
A "Thumping" good day out  !!

The Hastings DMU returns to Warminster, from Westbury, to load up for the return trip to Tonbridge.

(https://i.postimg.cc/m2qtMmhk/20260815-6320.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: grahame on August 15, 2026, 19:37:01
From across a wide, wide area, they gathered with their cameras and binoculars, hoping to get a glance and perhaps even a rare LondonBus away from its natural habitat

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/twitch01.jpg)

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(https://www.wellho.info/pix/twitch03.jpg)

(https://www.wellho.info/pix/twitch04.jpg)

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Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 15, 2026, 20:29:49
Today was my first experience of an Imber Bus day.  I met up with grahame, and we toured (some of) the 23A route in company.

My impressions are all favourable.  I was frankly rather startled to see just how many people were queuing up to 'get a bus to Imber' at Warminster Station.  I was also amazed at how huge the military firing range on Salisbury Plain is: I'd looked at it on an Ordnance Survey map, and noted that it is quite extensive - but travelling through it, in real life, it's vast!  Lots of rusting hulks of old tanks, visible from the roadway, but with cheery warning signs saying 'These are targets - Do not try to play on them'.

Interestingly, on almost every corner and junction, there were bus enthusiast photographers (and I do not use that term in any way derogatively) who had apparently negotiated their way to such vantage points.

My thanks to grahame, for acting as my local guide during my exploration: it was a grand day out.

CfN.  ;)


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: JayMac on August 15, 2026, 22:26:20
The first time is always an eye-opener, CfN!

Glad you enjoyed the day. I was one of those numerous bus enthusiast photographers myself a couple years ago. Accompanied by my best friend.

EDIT: I never did get round to putting together a YouTube compilation from all my video and photos taken in 2024. Still have tjem all saved. One day maybe...

(https://i.postimg.cc/BQqgYvmb/IMG-20240817-131048.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 15, 2026, 22:46:55
A "Thumping" good day out  !!

The Hastings DMU returns to Warminster, from Westbury, to load up for the return trip to Tonbridge.

(https://i.postimg.cc/m2qtMmhk/20260815-6320.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

I saw that!  Well, I managed to get a glimpse of it, out of the droplight in a rammed unit between Warminster and Westbury (air conditioning failure).  ::)

CfN.  ;)


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 15, 2026, 22:55:18
(https://i.postimg.cc/BQqgYvmb/IMG-20240817-131048.jpg)

Finn - holding up the traffic, again.  ;) :D ;D


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: chipbury on August 16, 2026, 09:49:48
Yesterday was my first Imberbus, my wife and I got the train from Freshford to Warminster and joined the long queue at the railway station at 0915hrs.  It took about 45mins to get on the bus to Market Lavington (we could have gone to Imber a bit earlier).
We travelled all the routes on 6 different buses and arrived back in Warminster at 1530hrs.  We had a coffee stop in Market Lavington, and a lunch stop in Tilshead.

All in all an excellent day and one I can recommend to anyone whether a bus enthusiast or not (this is the first time we'd been on a bus day like this - we'd probably do another).
After a few beers and a fantastic pizza in Warminster (The Old Fire Station) we hot footed it back to the railway station to catch a suitable train as the next 3 we could use were 1 delayed and 2 cancelled! 

Can someone point me in the direction of an image attaching 'how to' for the forum please?

Cheers,

Chris


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 16, 2026, 10:41:49
Can someone point me in the direction of an image attaching 'how to' for the forum please?

Thanks for posting, chipbury (another Chris ;) )

I'm digging around for some previous suggestions on how to add images to posts. This topic (https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=30752.0) may help, but I'll see whether I can find some more definitive guidance - I'm sure we have discussed this before on the Coffee Shop forum.

CfN.  :)


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: grahame on August 16, 2026, 11:29:25
Can someone point me in the direction of an image attaching 'how to' for the forum please?

Thanks for posting, chipbury (another Chris ;) )

I'm digging around for some previous suggestions on how to add images to posts. This topic (https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=30752.0) may help, but I'll see whether I can find some more definitive guidance - I'm sure we have discussed this before on the Coffee Shop forum.

CfN.  :)


An update - or even a new topic - on images with posts would make sense, and probably for me to write it with the technical server background I have.

In summary, there are two ways of sharing an image with(in) a post. The first is for you to host the image somewhere else (away from the Coffee Shop) and hot link it into your post.  The second is for you to use the forum's very limited attachment facility which you will find under "additional options" as you post.   You asked about "directions on image attaching"  and so I am, somewhat pedantically, pointing you at that, though it is by far the less flexible way of doing it.

You need the file you want to be attached on your local computer / posting device before you post, and when you "choose file" you can navigate locally and select it.  You'll note the size and number of images you can add in this way is limited, and unstated there are restrictions on the file type too,  as we don't want to be carriers of viruses and other nasties on the Coffee Shop.  I am - as I write this - attaching a picture of the 2 car 158 that called at Warminster on its way from Portsmouth to Cardiff at around 14:10 yesterday.

The presence of an attached image will ONLY be reported  / seen when you look at the individual post - so it won't be seen on things like "recents" or - as yet - on the responsive front end.   Neither will it be seen by forum guests - logged in members only.

Image hosting can take a huge amount of space we don't have ... and be a significant issue on copyright - see https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=32279.0 which highlights that.   We "attach light" here and it's far better if you can host using a service / server which is built for image hosting ...


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: chipbury on August 16, 2026, 13:21:52
Thanks for the info, I'll have a read later.

Cheers,

Chris


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: Clan Line on August 17, 2026, 09:22:50
Today's Telegraph.

(https://i.postimg.cc/66c14qVv/Screen-Shot-08-17-26-at-09-19-AM.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)



Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: bobm on August 17, 2026, 09:50:18
That is a famous viewpoint of the annual event, but the first time I have seen an open top bus.


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: JohnM on August 17, 2026, 09:51:38
Today's Telegraph.
I've 'gifted' the article - only valid for 30 days I think:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/6f3aedcfccbf548c


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: grahame on August 17, 2026, 11:46:17
Today's Telegraph.

(https://i.postimg.cc/66c14qVv/Screen-Shot-08-17-26-at-09-19-AM.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Today's Telegraph.
I've 'gifted' the article - only valid for 30 days I think:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/6f3aedcfccbf548c

Thank you - may be today's Telegraph but the article is dated 20th August 2025?  Having read it, much of the story (and the other stuff around that's churning out) is the same as it was last year.  The article reports 28 old Routemaster buses out of 40 buses in total on the service and I'll be interested to learn the 2026 equivalent stats.


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: JohnM on August 17, 2026, 13:07:01
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/6f3aedcfccbf548c

Thank you - may be today's Telegraph but the article is dated 20th August 2025?  Having read it, much of the story (and the other stuff around that's churning out) is the same as it was last year.  The article reports 28 old Routemaster buses out of 40 buses in total on the service and I'll be interested to learn the 2026 equivalent stats.
Oops - apologies. It's strange - I searched for 'imber' using the DT's search, and that's the closest/latest that comes up. Can't see one on the (digital) front page, which is where I'd expect to see it mentioned.


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: JohnM on August 17, 2026, 13:13:05
That buses picture is also in the Daily Mail's write-up of the event - they've got a nice set of 8. But that's one of their subscribers-only stories, and they don't do gifting (I only read it for entertainment, not news, honest :) ).


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: JayMac on August 17, 2026, 14:26:32
That is a famous viewpoint of the annual event, but the first time I have seen an open top bus.

Open toppers in 2024.

(https://i.postimg.cc/g0395gm5/IMG-20240817-132725-2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kGTPsD9z/IMG-20240817-135421.jpg)


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 17, 2026, 14:34:00
Those are the ones which haven't been 'converted' by being driven under a railway bridge.  ::)


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: Clan Line on August 28, 2026, 19:04:08
"Warminster Journal"

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Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 04, 2026, 00:15:33
From the BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgyqey6rlyo):

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British army told to stop non-essential training exercises to save money

The Army has been told to stop "non-essential" training exercises to save money, according to a defence source.

It will continue to train soldiers preparing to be deployed or on deployments - such as units sent to Estonia, the Falklands or Cyprus.  But units back in the UK and who are not preparing for a specific deployment have been told to cut back on collective training exercises due to financial pressures.

It comes as Prime Minister Andy Burnham faces pressure to increase spending on defence.  The government is increasing defence spending to 2.5% of national income by next year, but is under growing pressure to reach a target of 3% by the end of the decade.

A defence source said the plans mean not doing what he called "nice to have training" - like large live fire exercises and rehearsing platoon attacks in UK training areas like Salisbury Plain in Wiltshire and Sennybridge in Wales.


Imber could be re-opened, then?  ::) :o ;D


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: grahame on September 04, 2026, 05:58:21
From the BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgyqey6rlyo):

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British army told to stop non-essential training exercises to save money

The Army has been told to stop "non-essential" training exercises to save money, according to a defence source.

[snip]

A defence source said the plans mean not doing what he called "nice to have training" - like large live fire exercises and rehearsing platoon attacks in UK training areas like Salisbury Plain in Wiltshire and Sennybridge in Wales.


Imber could be re-opened, then?  ::) :o ;D


This worries me. Not the re-opening of Imber which (if any senior politicians or cool servants have been up there on the 23A) has well connected public transport and housing and a church that could be brought up to modern standards to form the hub of a new town. But also with political decisions taking the opportunism of short(er) term money saving even in a sphere they are apparently committed too.   Could money be saved by mothballing the Badminton and Langport cutoffs, with London to the West and South Wales routed via Gloucester, via Bath Spa, and via Honiton?



Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: Marlburian on September 04, 2026, 09:19:35
I can't see Imber being returned to civilian habitation as it remains a useful training facility, although, ironically, the army had to construct the nearby "village" on Copehill Down (complete with railway siding and vehicles) to better replicate the sort of buildings, including cellars, that the British Army might have to fight in in Europe).

(And something would need to be done about the poor mobile-phone reception!)

In recent years I've become conscious of the increased use of the central ranges north of Larkhill.  (Imber is in the western ranges.)  Time was when one could go there on a Sunday and be reasonably sure that they were not being used and one could access the rights-of-way.  But on several occasions in the past few years the Salisbury Plain Training Area website has shown no artillery firing taking place, only for me to drive down and find the red flags were up and there were army vehicles whizzing around.  A year or two ago the flags were down, so I trudged up the old Salisbury-Devizes road for two miles from Bustard, only to find a barrier was down across it.

Recently the SPTA website has tweaked its guidance (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/salisbury-plain-training-area-spta-firing-times/salisbury-plain-training-area-spta-firing-times-december-2025), but still does not indicate military use other than firing.

No doubt one might be fairly safe in assuming that the army takes Christmas Day and adjacent dates off, but on most winter days the Plain is not particularly inviting.


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: CyclingSid on September 04, 2026, 10:00:03
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British army told to stop non-essential training exercises to save money

Unfortunate timing with Trump reviewing the situation with the Falklands, followed by the Argentinians rising to the bait.


Title: Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
Post by: grahame on September 05, 2026, 09:44:42
Imberbus launched on 5th September 2009 [OTD] with 4 red Routemaster buses from Warminster to Imber. The roads were also open in those early days to cars, but as the event grew, Imberbus day has become buses only.  What started as a one-off transport idea has since grown into a massive annual event. This year (2026) over 4,000 visited, and 40 vintage and modern buses, predomiantly Routemasters, raised over £30,000 for local charities.



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