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1  Journey by Journey / TransWilts line / Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury on: May 30, 2025, 21:58:31
I understand that Gloucester drivers have had Melksham work removed with the change of timetable. Along with Bristol drivers losing Weymouth, it would appear Westbury depot are too thin to cover all the gaps.

There are ... times ... I wish I had provided an "amazed" button answer as well as a "like" button. If you have understood correctly (and I have no reason to doubt it) it looks to be rather backward step in terms of providing a reliable service, doesn't it?

Has the new timetable change sorted out the lunchtime problem where a crew arriving off the semi-fast London to Exeter service do a round trip to Swindon ... notorious for being cancelled, turned at Chippenham or delayed if anything goes wrong (does it ever?) between London and Reading,  delaying the Exeter.

Almost all depots have lost routes with the May timetable. I guess it works on paper. Believe Oxford are the odd ones out who’ve actually gained a new route.
2  Journey by Journey / TransWilts line / Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury on: May 30, 2025, 07:03:44
I understand that Gloucester drivers have had Melksham work removed with the change of timetable. Along with Bristol drivers losing Weymouth, it would appear Westbury depot are too thin to cover all the gaps.
3  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025 on: March 06, 2025, 04:29:17
The Evening Standard reported that
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Some trains were re-routed to London Waterloo.

Did that really happen?


Not a chance. Passengers were via SWR» (South Western Railway - about), the trains themselves weren’t.
4  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: Portishead Line Re-Opening confirmed ? on: February 10, 2025, 21:28:30
I’ll believe it when I see a train heading to Portishead.
5  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: How would you like GWR to handle their inability to crew all trains timetabled? on: November 28, 2024, 12:21:24
At the depot I am most familiar with, either of those situations you describe is incredibly rare.

A driver who regularly blows out of Sundays by not following the agreed procedures would very quickly get a very bad reputation amongst his/her colleagues who have to pick up their work as a result.

That’s not the case though, because there isn’t anybody else to cover the turns so the trains get cancelled. Hence the situation we see every Sunday. If you’re in the east maybe things are different.
6  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: How would you like GWR to handle their inability to crew all trains timetabled? on: November 28, 2024, 09:10:29
Have Sundays always been completely reliant on overtime workers, or was there a time (in the recent past) when people were rostered to work on Sundays?

All drivers (except for a small number on special ‘accommodated’ rosters due to personal circumstances) are rostered to work Sundays.

Many drivers, in recent post privatisation history at least, have always had a committed rostered Sunday agreement.  They should work them unless they or rostering department can cover them with someone else.

You can’t take a day off from your annual leave allocation and if you go sick you don’t get sick pay.

The HSS (High Speed Services) drivers (and a few others, notably Paddington GWR (Great Western Railway)) have an agreement whereby with 5 days notice they can make themselves unavailable without having to find cover for their rostered shift.

The phrase ‘reliant on overtime workers’ is therefore both correct and incorrect if that makes sense?

A commitment that’s not worth the paper it’s written on. I know drivers who for every committed Sunday phone in ‘fatigued’ or ‘sick’ the night before and then resume on the Sunday evening for Monday. No disciplinary action can be taken because it is classed as overtime, and you can’t discipline someone for not doing overtime.

There are also plenty who email rosters on Tuesday when the Sunday sheets are issued saying they’re not coming in, and don’t, and nothing more is said. Because it’s still overtime. They don’t get paid but that’s fine because they don’t want to be paid because they don’t want to work overtime.

You’ve got some conscientious drivers who don’t do either, but I would hazard a guess they are in the minority.
7  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: How would you like GWR to handle their inability to crew all trains timetabled? on: November 27, 2024, 10:21:45
The only reliable number of trains that could be operated on a Sunday is 0. No drivers are obliged to work Sundays. Plenty do but many more do not. You’ll find it’s always the same few faces working on a Sunday, there are a good number who never work any. So if some of those ‘few faces’ are on leave or have other plans the service falls apart. And the problem at the moment is the few have become fewer as a result of the payrise.

Is that on the few for taking a couple of Sundays off or the many who don’t work any at all?
8  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion on: October 29, 2024, 17:15:56
It’s just a mix of everything. It’s also December link planning time which takes some more drivers away from the cab. And with large back pay sums in bank accounts drivers don’t feel the need to do more overtime right now.

The amount of drivers who are working rest days every day is staggering. It’s far more than you’d think. A few of the regular ones might not want to this week with half term, and this is the result.
9  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion on: October 26, 2024, 10:40:09
Make Sunday’s double or even triple time.

Very simple.

Indeed. Make (train driver) poverty history.

Well no, obviously the problem is now that drivers are so much not in poverty that they don’t need to work overtime to bump up tho salary. Would you work an extra optional day each week if you didn’t have to?

The only long term answer is to put Sundays inside the normal working week. I don’t think anybody will be paying for the 14% increase in drivers to cover it any time soon.
10  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion on: October 26, 2024, 10:34:54
Drivers will always take the money. If double or triple pay is offered more will volunteer to come in.

The problem with reducing the timetable is that the number of drivers who have to come in each week is zero. Those that do are all volunteering. You will also find that some drivers are more keen to come in than others, and if the ‘keen shift’ are all early Monday they obviously can’t work Sunday afternoon/evening (12 hours rest required between shifts), whereas the following week it could be a lot better when they have a late shift on the Monday.
11  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Rail unions industrial and strike action 2024 on: July 27, 2024, 23:23:28
No, inflation is around 25% for the last five years. A £60000 salary in 2019 should be worth around £75000 now. A 10% payrise for drivers is a decent uplift but nowhere near what it ‘should’ be.
12  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion on: July 07, 2024, 20:49:14
I’ll be in next Sunday evening at least. Not really bothered about the football.
13  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion on: June 30, 2024, 15:41:46
I can’t see Sunday’s ever becoming part of the working week.  

TfW (Transport for Wales) have managed to get Sunday’s inside the working week. They reportedly had to increase the number of drivers by a third, around an extra 300 drivers alone with an increase in salary to £71000. Even with my level of mathematical ability you can see what the major stumbling block is!  Your best is enhancing the hourly rate.

£71,000 a year + a 4 day week? ..................remind me why ASLEF» (Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen - about) keep going on strike?  Shocked

They don’t in Wales. That’s the point.
14  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion on: June 30, 2024, 13:23:17
Of course, that has now compounded the GWR (Great Western Railway) problem as at least five drivers have moved over to TfW (Transport for Wales) for a higher wage and guaranteed four day week.
15  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion on: June 30, 2024, 12:38:59
I’d be amazed if it’s even on the DfT» (Department for Transport - about)’s radar. They’re not going to pay for it to be sorted.
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