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« on: February 26, 2012, 16:29:19 »
How many different HST▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) types to FGW▸ (First Great Western) run?

On their website, there is now reference to 2+7, normal 2+8 and "super high capacity" 2+8

http://firstgreatwestern.co.uk/About-Us/Our-business/Extra-capacity-across-the-network

What is a super HC? Have they ripped out the remaining tables? Wouldn't it just be easier to run one type of HST. And I would hardly call 4 tables per coach LC▸ (Level Crossing) either!

And what's the status with buffets vs mini buffets? I'm confused on that one.
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 16:37:45 »
Quote from: Btline on February 26, 2012, 16:29:19
How many different HST▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) types to FGW▸ (First Great Western) run?

On their website, there is now reference to 2+7, normal 2+8 and "super high capacity" 2+8

http://firstgreatwestern.co.uk/About-Us/Our-business/Extra-capacity-across-the-network

What is a super HC? Have they ripped out the remaining tables? Wouldn't it just be easier to run one type of HST. And I would hardly call 4 tables per coach LC▸ (Level Crossing) either!

And what's the status with buffets vs mini buffets? I'm confused on that one.
I asked Jo on Twitter, who returned with "It will have an extra SC carriage (84 seats) - so 6 SC carriages and 2 FC▸ (First Class, or Fat Controller, or Football Club, depending on context). Jo", oppose to 5SC and 2FC + 1FC Buffet car - it also means they will have mini express cafes.
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 19:30:50 »
The 'Super High Capacity' sets are a consequence of the additional Standard Class coaches that are being converted from stored MkIII buffets.

These extra vehicles allow for all current 2+7 sets to be lengthened to 2+8. It'll be a few more months yet before the final HST▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) fleet settles down. When it does I believe it will consist of:

2+8 Low Capacity with full buffet.
2+8 High Capacity with full buffet or micro buffet.
2+8 Super High Capacity with micro buffet.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 19:54:06 »
Quote from: bignosemac on February 26, 2012, 19:30:50
2+8 High Capacity with full buffet or micro buffet.
2+8 Super High Capacity with micro buffet.

Thanks everyone for the explanation! Smiley

What's the difference between a HC with micro buffet and a SHC with micro buffet? is it because the micro buffet has standard seats or are there no tables?
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 20:43:10 »
Quote from: Btline on February 26, 2012, 19:54:06
What's the difference between a HC with micro buffet and a SHC with micro buffet? is it because the micro buffet has standard seats or are there no tables?

Mistake on my part. No difference. Second line should've omitted 'or micro buffet.'

2+8 Low Capacity with full buffet. 5x Standard Class (with a few extra tables), Buffet/1st, 2x First Class
2+8 High Capacity with full buffet. 5x Standard Class, Buffet/1st, 2x First Class
2+8 Super High Capacity with micro buffet. 6x Standard Class (one with micro buffet), 2x First Class

That's my take, based on the drip feed of info. We'll just have to wait and see how the fleet finally shakes down....
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 21:09:22 »
Of course it's not quite as simple as that, since there are a multitude of buffet types. The TFB▸ (Trailer First Buffet (Mark 3 coach type)) (Trailer First Buffet) not capable of Pullman service for example.  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 21:42:45 »
Thanks d_m.  Roll Eyes

I was aware of the different 1st/buffet types (TFB▸ (Trailer First Buffet (Mark 3 coach type))/TRFB▸ (Trailer Restaurant First Buffet (Mark 3 coach type))) that FGW▸ (First Great Western) currently use. Just trying to keep things simple.  Wink

Some of those TRFBs with full kitchens may well be seeing greater use of their kitchens if the rumours of an increase in Pullman/At Seat Dining are to believed.....
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