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« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2008, 21:23:26 »
oh ok, thankyou for that its been a long time since i saw the inside of a 143 being originally from marple this is a unit that i rarly got to use
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« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2008, 21:31:29 »
Quote from: relex109 on December 28, 2008, 20:22:44
why would you need seat numbers?? and well wifi.... please say you were joking


They seem to have missed out the first class compartment too.  Wink
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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2008, 22:49:12 »
Quote from: John R on December 28, 2008, 21:31:29
Quote from: relex109 on December 28, 2008, 20:22:44
why would you need seat numbers?? and well wifi.... please say you were joking


They seem to have missed out the first class compartment too.  Wink

actually if they do multiple workings with a class 142 then bang first and second class  Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2008, 23:44:42 »
The 143's were never fitted with tables as it was deemed unsafe, as if someone put a hot drink on one it may spill on their lap! serious!
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« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2008, 00:02:43 »
plus why would a table be needed for a journey of 30 mins or less, the routes these trains were designed for
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« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2008, 01:46:47 »
Is the toilet missing?
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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2008, 03:06:24 »
What's the seat spacing like? My experience of the ones that Northern refurbished is that it's virtually impossible to sit straight in the seat - there's no room for your knees. I end up sitting sideways (occupying both seats of the pair).
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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2008, 08:44:39 »
Quote from: rjames87 on December 29, 2008, 01:46:47
Is the toilet missing?

No still fitted. One on each 143 unit.

Quote from: Worcester_Passenger on December 29, 2008, 03:06:24
What's the seat spacing like? My experience of the ones that Northern refurbished is that it's virtually impossible to sit straight in the seat - there's no room for your knees. I end up sitting sideways (occupying both seats of the pair).

The seats retain their original spacing that they were prior to refurbishment. The extant seats have been reupholstered and refitted. No change to seating plan.
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« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2008, 14:24:54 »
Quote from: The SprinterMeister on December 28, 2008, 19:44:23

Apparently this was an issue with the way the DSD▸ (Driver's Safety Device) / Vigilance is configured which is to be the way the 143's are to be fitted up. The Pacers are not currently fitted with vigilance, other that 143617.

The VIG fitted to 143617 is a joke. The way it has been fitted by bolting the pedal assembly on top of the floor plate  means I can no longer get my knees under the desk.

I can only conclude that the aslef delegation who inspected the unit at Eastleigh must all be under 5' 5".
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« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2008, 15:20:49 »
Might explain why it took so long to come out of works?
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« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2008, 23:01:02 »
Quote from: devon_metro on December 30, 2008, 15:20:49
Might explain why it took so long to come out of works?

Delays on the refresh due to unfamiliarity and the 'trial and error' phase due to it being the first and so in effect the 'prototype' set.
The 'crashworthyness mods' caried out also caused significant delays.
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