Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 13:15 01 May 2025
 
- Snake halts Japanese bullet trains after wrapping around power line
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 05/05/25 - Walk to Pilning
10/05/25 - BRTA Westbury
10/05/25 - Model Railway Show, Calne
13/05/25 - Melksham TUG / AGM

On this day
1st May (1964)
Helicopter service from Penzance to Scilly Isles starts (link)

Train RunningCancelled
11:54 Reading to Gatwick Airport
12:24 Reading to Gatwick Airport
13:23 London Paddington to Oxford
13:25 London Paddington to Heathrow Terminal 5
13:29 Gatwick Airport to Reading
13:55 London Paddington to Heathrow Terminal 5
13:57 Heathrow Terminal 5 to London Paddington
13:59 Gatwick Airport to Reading
14:25 London Paddington to Heathrow Terminal 5
14:27 Heathrow Terminal 5 to London Paddington
14:34 Didcot Parkway to Banbury
14:55 London Paddington to Heathrow Terminal 5
14:57 Heathrow Terminal 5 to London Paddington
15:03 Oxford to London Paddington
15:07 Oxford to Didcot Parkway
15:25 London Paddington to Heathrow Terminal 5
15:27 Heathrow Terminal 5 to London Paddington
15:34 Didcot Parkway to Oxford
15:55 London Paddington to Heathrow Terminal 5
15:57 Heathrow Terminal 5 to London Paddington
16:27 Heathrow Terminal 5 to London Paddington
17:34 Oxford to Didcot Parkway
18:00 Didcot Parkway to Oxford
18:34 Oxford to Didcot Parkway
19:05 Didcot Parkway to Oxford
Short Run
10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington
11:16 London Paddington to Cardiff Central
12:30 London Paddington to Weston-Super-Mare
12:37 Didcot Parkway to London Paddington
12:50 Cardiff Central to London Paddington
13:08 London Paddington to Didcot Parkway
13:09 Didcot Parkway to London Paddington
13:11 Taunton to Cardiff Central
13:15 London Paddington to Cardiff Central
13:38 London Paddington to Didcot Parkway
13:48 Didcot Parkway to London Paddington
14:08 London Paddington to Didcot Parkway
14:15 Didcot Parkway to London Paddington
14:38 London Paddington to Didcot Parkway
15:28 Weston-Super-Mare to London Paddington
16:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
17:30 London Paddington to Taunton
Delayed
10:35 London Paddington to Exeter St Davids
11:57 Great Malvern to London Paddington
12:12 Didcot Parkway to London Paddington
12:38 London Paddington to Didcot Parkway
12:51 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street
13:00 Oxford to London Paddington
13:03 London Paddington to Plymouth
14:02 Oxford to London Paddington
14:23 London Paddington to Oxford
etc
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
May 01, 2025, 13:32:11 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[112] Cash payments for transport services
[69] Brighton Belle - merged topics
[53] May Timetable Change
[52] Longer distance canal walks - public transport for one way sec...
[36] "Save the Last Remaining British Rail Hovercraft from Destruct...
[36] What and why - on the platform
 
News: the Great Western Coffee Shop ... keeping you up to date with travel around the South West
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
Author Topic: How to make a complete mess of train regulation...  (Read 17172 times)
IndustryInsider
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 10456


View Profile
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2010, 13:36:50 »

Having praised the efforts to lengthen the trains a few days ago, I experienced two of them on Sunday and sadly it wasn't pleasant.  Firstly I boarded yesterday's 13:42 Paddington to Moreton at Didcot returning from a weekend in Cardiff.  It was a 5-car Turbo but was so full I could hardly get on! It was running about 15 minutes late (as were a number of other trains) and in fairness the previous service may have been cancelled (see below).  Also, Chiltern held their 14:55 connection at Oxford for 15 minutes which was greatly appreciated I'm sure!  The queue to use the lift and staircase on platform 2 at Oxford took literally minutes to disperse!

Secondly, whilst I was at Oxford the 15:50 to Paddington rolled into the platform.  I believe it was booked to be a HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) and start at Moreton (probably formed off the 12:42 Paddington to Moreton, which I suspect was cancelled), but it was clearly an empty 3-car set from the sidings.  Despite the fact that nobody from the Cotswold Line was on it, and the connecting Chiltern train from Birmingham was cancelled so there were no passengers off of that, it still left 5 minutes late due to the sheer numbers boarding with absolutely no room left on board at all!  A few people decided to sit and wait it out for the 16:05 or 16:15 trains.

Whilst both trains were not exactly running quite as planned, it does demonstrate how on-the-edge things are on a Sunday, and if something goes wrong it quickly descends into farce.
Logged

To view my GWML (Great Western Main Line) Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/
Timmer
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 6624


View Profile
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2010, 19:36:26 »

Whilst both trains were not exactly running quite as planned, it does demonstrate how on-the-edge things are on a Sunday, and if something goes wrong it quickly descends into farce.
It does as we have seen on the Cardiff-Portsmouth line on a Sunday when services are less frequesnt and sometimes end up short formed whilst empty rolling stock sits in the sidings at Westbury and Salisbury.
Logged
readytostart
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 608


View Profile
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2010, 14:38:27 »

The weekend was a nightmare with my XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) services busy as they are anyway with Bournemouth and Southampton traffic, it definitely got cosy once Chiltern passengers and those travelling between Oxford and Worcester were added to the mix.
Logged
inspector_blakey
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 3574



View Profile
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2010, 05:13:27 »

There does seem to be a prevailing mindset* that even if there is a reduced service running, it will somehow magically absorb all the punters without causing discomfort or inconvenience to anyone, honest...! Case in point, last time I was back home (mid-May) I travelled in an HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) from DID (Didcot Parkway) to BPW» (Bristol Parkway - next trains) (replacement bus from Swindon). Seemed like services out of London heading to south Wales and Bristol were down to about one an hour, so predictably the train service was full and standing.

Things only got worse from Swindon, where there were not enough buses provided... I was "fortunate" to get on one of these vehicles only to discover that is was some horrendous conveyance designed to torment even Munchkins by forcing them to sit with their knees rounds their necks. I'm 6' 1" so would consider myself on the taller end of average but nothing freakish. This bus however properly took the p*ss - it was as much as I could do to sit sideways, so small was the seat pitch. Of course, a rather shorted gentleman but with a somewhat more ample frame ended up occupying the aisle seat, leaving me with the most uncomfortable "rail" journey I can remember in some time. It was a white-painted anonymous bus, and I didn't get make a note of the "legal" lettering to the right of the door, so sadly I can't name and shame the operator of that wretched vehicle.

*possibly in the minds of those whose job it would be to spend more money by providing some sort of a back-up service of they were not able to convince themselves that a service reduced to half its normal frequency may be getting a little cosy.
Logged
IndustryInsider
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 10456


View Profile
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2010, 12:22:42 »

I'm sure you could have upgraded to 1st Class on the bus if you'd wanted more leg room, Blakey.  Wink
Logged

To view my GWML (Great Western Main Line) Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/
JayMac
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 19310



View Profile
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2010, 13:01:11 »

I fear the only extra legroom available to blakey would've been in the seat at the front right. Not sure blakey has a PCV licence.......
Logged

"Good news for regular users of Euston Station in London! One day they will die. Then they won't have to go to Euston Station ever again." - David Mitchell
inspector_blakey
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 3574



View Profile
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2010, 16:37:20 »

True enough. But on reflection I could have provided a splendid commentary on the scenic highlights of Swindon, and M4 and north Bristol from the tour guide's jump seat...
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules via admin@railcustomer.info. Full legal statement (here).

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page